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Title: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: Marshal Halloway on January 14, 2009, 09:45:20 AM
Press Release:
http://www.downrange.tv/artman2/publish/industry/391.shtml

DRTV Video Report:
http://www.downrange.tv/blog/?p=1735
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: ericire12 on January 14, 2009, 09:54:18 AM
 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: ericire12 on January 14, 2009, 10:20:39 AM
Well, now that I have read the report and watched the videos..... I have to say that I am simply in awe.

This is brilliant. Ruger has really pushed the edge of the envelope with this one, and shown once again that they have their finger on the pulse of the shooting world. Hmmm, it might be time to buy some Ruger stock.

The LCR still is not as light as the S&W 340 with the Scandium frame, but it comes damn close with almost $500 to spare. I really like the idea of fluting the cylinder -- very clever way to cut some weight, and an impressive bit of thinking outside the box by Ruger. I also have to say that if the trigger is as smooth as Mr. Bane says it is, that alone will sell countless more guns. The internal lock I am not too keen on, but we will see if it warrants a later "upgrade" from Ruger. The real brilliance of this gun...... the polymer housing! WOW! A polymer revolver. Who would have thunk it! I bet old Gaston is kicking himself right about now.

Gaston? Gaston? Oh, Gaston? ????????????

http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=2105.0
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: charliefarmerboy33 on January 14, 2009, 10:34:03 AM
Way Wicked Cool! I want one. I want one for my wife. I wonder how soon we will see it in .327 Magnum?
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: HAWKFISH on January 14, 2009, 10:39:05 AM
Good looking little revolver. I think it will server Ruger well to compete with S&W's j-frames. As a matter of fact if this pistol had been avaliable last year I might have bought one instead of buying my j-frame. But, I'm glad to see Ruger "stepping up to the plate" and getting competitive. That is good for their future. I do have a big question though: HOW MUCH DOES IT COST? I hope it is on par with the LCP.. That would really help sell them too.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: ccd on January 14, 2009, 10:40:32 AM
Wow! Can't wait to lay my hands on one.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: ericire12 on January 14, 2009, 10:59:28 AM
Good looking little revolver. I think it will serve Ruger well to compete with S&W's j-frames. As a matter of fact if this pistol had been available last year I might have bought one instead of buying my j-frame. But, I'm glad to see Ruger "stepping up to the plate" and getting competitive. That is good for their future. I do have a big question though: HOW MUCH DOES IT COST? I hope it is on par with the LCP.. That would really help sell them too.

$525 with Hogue Grip
$792 with Crimson Trace Grip
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: Harmony Hermit on January 14, 2009, 11:08:07 AM
Stupid question#1:

Does the Crimson Trace grip have the sorbothane insert?
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: ericire12 on January 14, 2009, 12:37:12 PM
More pics:

(http://www.gunblast.com/images/Ruger-LCR/Thumbs/DSC06207.jpg)
(http://www.gunblast.com/images/Ruger-LCR/Thumbs/DSC06146.jpg)
(http://www.gunblast.com/images/Ruger-LCR/Thumbs/DSC06148.jpg)
(http://www.gunblast.com/images/Ruger-LCR/Thumbs/DSC06188.jpg)
(http://www.gunblast.com/images/Ruger-LCR/Thumbs/DSC06194.jpg)
(http://www.gunblast.com/images/Ruger-LCR/Thumbs/DSC06196.jpg)
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: blackwolfe on January 14, 2009, 05:35:57 PM
I like Rugers and I like revolvers, but the LCR doesn't excite me.  Maybe that would change if I got a chance to handle and shoot one.

I've heard that Ruger was going to unveil 2 new guns, anyone know what the other one is?  I have a catalog from them with a few AR type accessories in it, but those may actually be for the Mini14 with the ATI stock.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: Texas_Bryan on January 14, 2009, 05:44:22 PM
Looks like a nice weapon, and hopefully if they do make any more new guns its a Garand M1 bolt, like the Mini14, geared towards combat and defense.  But with the new government in place who knows.

Not a revolver fan and I actually thought them to be obsolete, for defense purposes, but if a company like Ruger is willing to invest so much in it then maybe I ought to give them a look.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: SigShooter on January 14, 2009, 06:33:55 PM
I never really thought that making a polymer frame revolver would be pratical since the working parts would still have to be metal. Ruger's new product really supprised me.

I'm thinking about a revolver for my pocket as a back-up gun, since I don't find revolvers to be the best choice for primary carry, but execellent choices for back-up and pocket concealment.

This revolver will need to be priced less than about $400 for the standard version and about $600 for the CT grips version if it's going to compete sucessfully against the S&W 642, similarly equipped.

I just hope they don't have a recall on this product like their last big two.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: Rob10ring on January 14, 2009, 06:44:05 PM
I think the last 2 recalls are probably why this one isn't available until March. The frame is actually aluminum. It is the fire-control housing that is polymer.

I want one, even though I already have a Charter Arms Undercover that fills this role suitably. They are listed at $525 and $792, but I know in my area, the prices are always substantially cheaper than list.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: CJS3 on January 14, 2009, 06:49:11 PM
Interesting concept. I think it would take some getting used to for me. I would like to try one out at the range before I'd buy.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: Overload on January 15, 2009, 01:14:28 AM
Is this gun taller than a normal revolver?  It seems that way from the picture, but the dimensions may be misleading as it's so different.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: CurrieS103 on January 15, 2009, 07:48:30 AM
Is this gun taller than a normal revolver?  It seems that way from the picture, but the dimensions may be misleading as it's so different.

It looks like it has more above the hand in MB' video.  It might be be a better fit for guys with large hands.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: Ksail101 on January 15, 2009, 07:55:54 AM
Well I know what my gun will be. I been wanting a J frame and I have just found it equal. Ruger has a great reputation with their revolvers and I am sure this one is just as good. Wow it looks great.

Also I was watching the product video on Ruger's website and they had some sort of a grip laser, is this Crimson Trace, and do they have this laser available yet to public, or with any J-Fame grip/laser system fit the LCR? if anyone knows I would love to hear more.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: Dharmaeye on January 15, 2009, 09:00:29 AM
Gunblast review today

http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-LCR.htm
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: addict on January 15, 2009, 09:05:37 AM
525$ MSRP! Thats a bit steep... Paid $360 for my Air Weight and it has been the bees knees for a pocket carry gun. For 250 I would give the LCR  a chance, but at that price I will wait for CDNN to put them on sale
Addict
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: Big Frank on January 15, 2009, 11:24:32 AM
Yesterday I thought, wow, I can't wait to get one. Today I'm thinking, I'll wait and see if there's a recall. Maybe I'll get an SP101 instead. The deep fluting on the cylinder reminds me of the 4-shot Colt "cloverleaf" revolver from about 130 years ago.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 15, 2009, 12:01:37 PM
I like revolvers but this seems like a gimmick. I have heard some of you guys mention that +p in light weight .38's can thump, this one is even lighter. It reminds me of a comment a co worker made when we were doing the prototypes for the T/C Omega, " The cutting edge of obsolete technology". I don't think revolvers are obsolete, but the technology IS 170 years old.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: jaybet on January 15, 2009, 12:58:23 PM
Yesterday I thought, wow, I can't wait to get one. Today I'm thinking, I'll wait and see if there's a recall. Maybe I'll get an SP101 instead. The deep fluting on the cylinder reminds me of the 4-shot Colt "cloverleaf" revolver from about 130 years ago.
I'm a true believer in THAT.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: Big Frank on January 15, 2009, 01:40:53 PM
Maybe someone will get the full set of free Ruger hats but it won't be me.  ;D  After it's been out a year or two I'll think about buying it.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: HAWKFISH on January 15, 2009, 05:02:46 PM
Ruger LCP/ Ruger SR9/ and now Ruger LCR..  I think they have learned the value of polymer...  they should thank Glock..
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: Big Frank on January 15, 2009, 09:21:22 PM
Ruger LCP/ Ruger SR9/ and now Ruger LCR..  I think they have learned the value of polymer...  they should thank Glock..

Glock should thank Heckler & Koch for laying the groundwork for them in the field of polymer framed pistols with the VP 70 pistol patented in 1968 and made in 1970.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: fullautovalmet76 on January 16, 2009, 12:27:34 AM
I don't know. I don't see this gun as being a real "game changer" and it looks similar in shape to my S&W 649.....I'm sure the gun is good but I'll have to handle and shoot one to really know more. I'll be waiting to see if there any "issues" with this one like there were with their last two big products. I hope they realize they can not continue to take the Microsoft approach to firearms development- hurry up and produce and then fix the bugs in the field......
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 16, 2009, 12:30:25 AM
Ruger LCP/ Ruger SR9/ and now Ruger LCR..  I think they have learned the value of polymer...  they should thank Glock..

Why the 2 that actually got to market were BOTH recalled, If they were to thank any one it should be Kel tec.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: HAWKFISH on January 20, 2009, 07:37:00 PM
Glock should thank Heckler & Koch for laying the groundwork for them in the field of polymer framed pistols with the VP 70 pistol patented in 1968 and made in 1970.

That's true.. except for H&K tanked.. compared to the success and marketing of Glock. I know Glock wasn't first. But, Glock was the first big and sustained success.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: HAWKFISH on January 20, 2009, 07:37:49 PM
Why the 2 that actually got to market were BOTH recalled, If they were to thank any one it should be Kel tec.

+1
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: Pathfinder on January 20, 2009, 07:54:01 PM
Ruger LCP/ Ruger SR9/ and now Ruger LCR..  I think they have learned the value of polymer...  they should thank Glock..

Actually they should thank Sig for setting a standard by making real guns, guns that don't have to be recalled, and guns that are designed to fit a human hand.

 ;D
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: ericire12 on January 20, 2009, 07:56:02 PM
I think this thread has fully descended now into the Chevy vs. Ford pissing contest.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: SigShooter on January 21, 2009, 12:16:29 AM
Actually they should thank Sig for setting a standard by making real guns, guns that don't have to be recalled, and guns that are designed to fit a human hand.

 ;D

+1 Sig realizes that screwing up a new design is a waste of time and resources. ;D

I think this thread has fully descended now into the Chevy vs. Ford pissing contest.

Oh, so that's why the carpet's wet?  ;D
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: ellis4538 on January 21, 2009, 02:28:48 PM
I just read the press release because something is wrong with the sound on my computer so...does it have the dreaded lock like the S&W?

Richard
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: Michael Bane on January 21, 2009, 04:01:20 PM
Tomato...tomaaaato...Sig tanked their intro of their first 1911s, and it has taken them 2 years since introduction to build the 556 everyone actually wanted (the Classic...I liked the original, but the Classic's 551 styling does look sexier). Pick any gun company, and they all have plenty of skeletons in their closet.

Aside from the fact that Ruger sponsors my shows. I like them because they innovate and take risks. Sometimes that comes back to bite them in the butt, but hey, that's the nature of taking a risk, and as a company they are always good for it. If it had been my company, I wouldn't have recalled the LCPs — they met the testing spec, and frankly even a dead cat will bounce if you drop it from high enough. There's a semi-legendary story in the biz about how I got challenged to make a cocked 1st-gen Glock drop the striker without pulling the trigger...I succeeded by throwing it against a concrete wall as hard as I could. All machines can be compromised if you have a sense of humor.

I like the little Ruger revolver because it felt to me after shooting 3 or 4 of the things that the polymer soaks up a little of the recoil. The Hogue standard grips are superb, but I'll take the harder-hitting CT LaserGrips any time. Also, I'm 100% on the new trigger system...you have no idea how much money I've spent over the years to get a decent trigger on a J-frame before I decided to just suck it up and shoot 'em as they come out of the box. There's also a pretty substantial price break over the Scandium S&Ws ($792 for the CT-equipped Ruger; $1153 for the CT-equipped Scandium 340, which is, admittedly a .357 although no sane person would shoot .357s in it!).

I say everyone needs a snub...or 2...or 3, if you"re Walt Rauch! Get the Ruger, get the S&Ws, get a Taurus or Charter if thats your budget, but don't leave home without a CCW permit and a gun!

Michael B
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: jaybet on January 21, 2009, 05:05:41 PM

I say everyone needs a snub...or 2...or 3, if you"re Walt Rauch! Get the Ruger, get the S&Ws, get a Taurus or Charter if thats your budget, but don't leave home without a CCW permit and a gun!

Michael B
...unless you live in NJ. Our democrat inspired strict gun laws have made the need to protect yourself a thing of the past. At least that's what the politicians who have State Trooper security details tell us.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: Michael Bane on January 21, 2009, 05:08:40 PM
I wonder...can you slip in under that NYC loophole??? You know of which I speak?

mb
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: HAWKFISH on January 21, 2009, 06:00:06 PM
Actually they should thank Sig for setting a standard by making real guns, guns that don't have to be recalled, and guns that are designed to fit a human hand.

 ;D
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I think someone likes Sig as well as I like Glock.  ;) 

  // Getting back on point... for Ruger .. I'm glad to see them changing to be "more modern." I think that only helps us and them. So, I say go for it Ruger! Keep coming out with the new stuff. And btw.. I do appauld them for doing their recalls. That is something that I think every gun company should do. And knowing that they will fix it helps put out some more "piece of mind" in when thinking on buying a Ruger. Hopefully, this new revolver will do well. Time will tell. If it shoots good and holds up.. good. If it don't.. I'm not gonna give it.. "false reviews or marks just because it's a Ruger", rather I'll let the gun speak for itself. Ruger makes a good variety of weapons and most people can find at least one (usually many) Ruger that suits them.  So go buy the LCR.. LCP..SR9.. the Mini-14.. whatever..  :)
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: Rob10ring on January 21, 2009, 06:13:06 PM
Hey, I like Ruger. They pretty much make a little of everything now. The only thing I see missing is a defense/tactical shotgun. The only issues I've ever had with any Rugers were an SP101 that would lock up right out of the box and a P95 that shoots low and left. The SP101 was fixed and returned to me within a week. I've never had another problem with it, and I even consider it one of my go-to guns. The P95 problem is on me, because I think that all I need to do is send it in to them and have the front sight replaced. It must be practically accurate, because it always shoots to the same low/left point and it is 100% reliable. I have a lot of Rugers. Some that were inherited from my grandfather.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: fullautovalmet76 on January 21, 2009, 06:51:10 PM
Tomato...tomaaaato
I like the little Ruger revolver because it felt to me after shooting 3 or 4 of the things that the polymer soaks up a little of the recoil. The Hogue standard grips are superb, but I'll take the harder-hitting CT LaserGrips any time. Also, I'm 100% on the new trigger system...you have no idea how much money I've spent over the years to get a decent trigger on a J-frame before I decided to just suck it up and shoot 'em as they come out of the box. There's also a pretty substantial price break over the Scandium S&Ws ($792 for the CT-equipped Ruger; $1153 for the CT-equipped Scandium 340, which is, admittedly a .357 although no sane person would shoot .357s in it!).
Michael B

Michael,
If someone owns a snubbie, is it really WORTH the switch? For example, I have a S&W 649 with CTC grips and I shoot Buffalo Bore .38 +P LSWCHP in it. I have shot full house .357 rounds and decided that I liked my hands too much to continue doing so; but the Buffalo Bore ammo is no soft load either. With all that said, I like the fact the steel frame absorbs more of the recoil than other lighter guns in the same class. So do you think that the Ruger is enough of "game changer" to get me to switch? I'm certainly willing to try the gun out but I am a bit skeptical.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: Michael Bane on January 21, 2009, 07:59:43 PM
The question is, does the Ruger represent enough of an advantage to switch? My answer would be no. If you have a snubbie you like and you carry regularly, stick with what you have.

If you're shopping, or if you're looking for #2 for a Spousal Unit, consider the Ruger.

Michael B
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: Timothy on January 22, 2009, 02:08:47 AM
The question is, does the Ruger represent enough of an advantage to switch? My answer would be no. If you have a snubbie you like and you carry regularly, stick with what you have.

If you're shopping, or if you're looking for #2 for a Spousal Unit, consider the Ruger.

Michael B

Mike,

What does the trigger pull measure?  Massachusetts requires 10 pounds for double action revolvers and pistols, otherwise it can't be sold here.  I'm interested but may never get a chance! :(
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: Rob10ring on January 22, 2009, 03:40:46 AM
The question is, does the Ruger represent enough of an advantage to switch? My answer would be no. If you have a snubbie you like and you carry regularly, stick with what you have.

If you're shopping, or if you're looking for #2 for a Spousal Unit, consider the Ruger.

Michael B
As much as I love my Charter, I'm thinking about getting the Ruger for myself and letting the "spousal unit" have the Charter. Of course, the buttering that it may take to get it may be to let her think that it's for her.

MB, on my Undercover, when I shoot double-action, the hammer obscures the sights. I was considering buying the bobbed hammer from their online store. Do you think that the swap would be easy enough for a non-smith, or should I take it in?
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: ericire12 on January 22, 2009, 08:58:06 AM
As much as I love my Charter, I'm thinking about getting the Ruger for myself and letting the "spousal unit" have the Charter. Of course, the buttering that it may take to get it may be to let her think that it's for her.

MB, on my Undercover, when I shoot double-action, the hammer obscures the sights. I was considering buying the bobbed hammer from their online store. Do you think that the swap would be easy enough for a non-smith, or should I take it in?

gun smith could just bob the hammer for you.... then you would not have to switch it out and all that crap......should be relatively inexpensive.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: jaybet on January 22, 2009, 10:12:29 AM
I wonder...can you slip in under that NYC loophole??? You know of which I speak?

mb
Not a clue, Majordomo
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 22, 2009, 11:15:26 AM
Not a clue, Majordomo


Think Nike ?
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: Ulmus on January 22, 2009, 06:42:39 PM
I held the gun and couldn't believe how light it is.  I also dry fired it as well.  (Something I would never even think to do normally, but seeing Mike do it on the video made me take the chance.)  I was amazed by the trigger pull.  I forget what Mike said the scale measures on it, but it feels light.  Like six pounds or less!  I still have to admit some trepidation on this revolver.  It feels so light that I'm concerned about the muzzle flip and recoil from the .38 spl rounds.  I know Mike said the recoil is felt differently because of the grip and, more importantly, the trigger take up, but I'd like to try one out for myself and make my own decision.  The best thing any gun store with a range could do is buy one themselves and rent it out or allow it to be used as a test drive model for protential buyers.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: Michael Bane on January 22, 2009, 06:57:54 PM
Get a 'smith to lop off that hammer! Cheaper and easier than a replacement.

Trigger pull is at 10 pounds for exactly that reason.

I hope you guys can find one to shoot, because really, that's the only way to truly choose a gun (although I've chosen a lot of them blind!).

mb
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: SigShooter on January 22, 2009, 11:54:21 PM
Get a 'smith to lop off that hammer! Cheaper and easier than a replacement.

Trigger pull is at 10 pounds for exactly that reason.

I hope you guys can find one to shoot, because really, that's the only way to truly choose a gun (although I've chosen a lot of them blind!).

mb

So does that mean that it's possible to get a lighter version of the trigger if the pull is set at the factory to meet gun-nazi specs? I'm sure its a great ten pounds, but the long stroke of a DA is more of a safety than the poundage, to a point of about 5 pounds for a pocket gun.

If the LCR came with a special 6 or 8 pound trigger, then I'd be sold even if it might get recalled. I'd be willing to take the change on a new system of operation if it would yield superior results to current, but less than ideal platforms like the standard S&W J-frames.

My local GS convienently has an indoor firing range. Hopefully they'll get an LCR for the range soon, so I can decide if the ten pounds feels more like 6 to 8 pounds like Ulmus has suggested and compare the dry fire feel with the live fire feel. (I've noticed that when I dry fire, I get excellent trigger control and perfect sight alignment. Then I got to the range and get average to poor trigger control and sight alignment. I'll just keep trying though, it's still a lot of fun and I'm more than capable of accurately defending myself.)
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: Rob10ring on January 24, 2009, 10:20:52 PM
gun smith could just bob the hammer for you.... then you would not have to switch it out and all that crap......should be relatively inexpensive.
Is that all that is different from the hammer offered on their site? It doesn't make the gun true DAO? My only problem with just having it cut off is that the gun would still have single action capability and if the hammer got locked back in some odd way, it would be more difficult to uncock it.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 24, 2009, 10:33:55 PM
Is that all that is different from the hammer offered on their site? It doesn't make the gun true DAO? My only problem with just having it cut off is that the gun would still have single action capability and if the hammer got locked back in some odd way, it would be more difficult to uncock it.

To make it DAO WITHOUT a hammer would require redesigning the pistol. If you want a striker fired pistol buy one. Even with a hammer shroud there is still going to be a hammer, except if it "got locked back in some odd way" you have NO way to uncock it until you disassemble the pistol.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: SigShooter on January 25, 2009, 02:42:07 AM
To make it DAO WITHOUT a hammer would require redesigning the pistol. If you want a striker fired pistol buy one. Even with a hammer shroud there is still going to be a hammer, except if it "got locked back in some odd way" you have NO way to uncock it until you disassemble the pistol.

I've never heard of an internal hammer getting cocked into single action before, but since the cyclinder cannot be opened on an exposed hammer gun when it's cocked, then you would be really screwed if it was loaded. Then again, you'd probably be at the range since it would most likely occur there during an aborted trigger press, so send it down range when you discover the problem and send the empty gun to a smith or factory.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 25, 2009, 10:30:51 AM
I was thinking more of the Smiths and Taurus's that simply have a shroud over the normal hammer.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: ellis4538 on January 25, 2009, 12:46:39 PM
I would also suggest that you have your GS remove the single action notch (or what ever it is called) fron the hammer after he removes the hammer spur.  I assume that all this tinkering with things voids the warranty though!

FWIW

Richard
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: Michael Bane on January 25, 2009, 01:19:15 PM
In general. I believe (and teach) that DA revolvers should be shot DA except in very extenuating circumstances...for instance in an upcoming THE BEST DEFENSE on being safe on the trail, Rob Pincus and I suggest that should you be stalked by a lion — something that is becoming increasingly common here in the Front Range and in California — and a warning shot doesn't scare Mr. Beastie off, take the long shot...and take it single action.

Otherwise, learn to shoot the gun DA. I have no problem with a 10-pound DA trigger as long as it's smooth. That's because I love the big frame Smiths and Rugers, and when you're pushing that much mass in a cylinder 10 pounds is about as good as you can get — unless you sent your revolver to Randy Lee about 3 years ago, when Randy was still accepting guns to overhaul. He can do the best DA trigger on earth, and his personal guns, including N-frames, have DA trigger pulls that are nothing short of amazing.

Michael B
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: ericire12 on January 25, 2009, 05:11:15 PM
In general. I believe (and teach) that DA revolvers should be shot DA except in very extenuating circumstances...for instance in an upcoming THE BEST DEFENSE on being safe on the trail, Rob Pincus and I suggest that should you be stalked by a lion — something that is becoming increasingly common here in the Front Range and in California — and a warning shot doesn't scare Mr. Beastie off, take the long shot...and take it single action.

Otherwise, learn to shoot the gun DA. I have no problem with a 10-pound DA trigger as long as it's smooth. That's because I love the big frame Smiths and Rugers, and when you're pushing that much mass in a cylinder 10 pounds is about as good as you can get — unless you sent your revolver to Randy Lee about 3 years ago, when Randy was still accepting guns to overhaul. He can do the best DA trigger on earth, and his personal guns, including N-frames, have DA trigger pulls that are nothing short of amazing.

Michael B

Bullseye!
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: Rob10ring on January 26, 2009, 04:15:35 PM
In general. I believe (and teach) that DA revolvers should be shot DA except in very extenuating circumstances...for instance in an upcoming THE BEST DEFENSE on being safe on the trail, Rob Pincus and I suggest that should you be stalked by a lion — something that is becoming increasingly common here in the Front Range and in California — and a warning shot doesn't scare Mr. Beastie off, take the long shot...and take it single action.

Otherwise, learn to shoot the gun DA. I have no problem with a 10-pound DA trigger as long as it's smooth. That's because I love the big frame Smiths and Rugers, and when you're pushing that much mass in a cylinder 10 pounds is about as good as you can get — unless you sent your revolver to Randy Lee about 3 years ago, when Randy was still accepting guns to overhaul. He can do the best DA trigger on earth, and his personal guns, including N-frames, have DA trigger pulls that are nothing short of amazing.

Michael B
In 2004, I was hiking in Whiting Ranch (Orange County) on a day when one male mountain biker was basically eaten and another female had her face pulled off by the same mountain lion. It's a large park and I had no idea of these attacks until I'd gotten back down to the entrance and saw all of the police. CCW is virtually non-existent  in California, so I won't say whether or not I was packing a 3 inch SP101 .357, but would that have been enough gun. We had another attack in the same park this past summer. Some bonehead wanted to pet some cubs.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: Texas_Bryan on January 26, 2009, 04:25:45 PM
I don't know much about revolvers, do they make DA/SA revolvers???
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: ericire12 on January 26, 2009, 04:27:12 PM
In 2004, I was hiking in Whiting Ranch (Orange County) on a day when one male mountain biker was basically eaten and another female had her face pulled off by the same mountain lion. It's a large park and I had no idea of these attacks until I'd gotten back down to the entrance and saw all of the police. CCW is virtually non-existent  in California, so I won't say whether or not I was packing a 3 inch SP101 .357, but would that have been enough gun. We had another attack in the same park this past summer. Some bonehead wanted to pet some cubs.

I would say, yes. Mountain lions range from 100-165 lbs...... so pretty much anything that is a man stopper would probably also be a lion stopper. You still would probably want to err on the side of caution if given a choice between something like a .380 or a .45 -- it is still a damn mountain lion!
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: Timothy on January 26, 2009, 05:06:04 PM
I would say, yes. Mountain lions range from 100-165 lbs...... so pretty much anything that is a man stopper would probably also be a lion stopper. You still would probably want to err on the side of caution if given a choice between something like a .380 or a .45 -- it is still a damn mountain lion!

I lived in Northern California in the late seventies while in the Navy.  Basic daily sidearm while in the coastal area was a .357 mag and when we ventured into the mountains, pretty much guarenteed that at least one of us had a .44 Mag.  Silly to let the critters eat ya when you have an alternative.  One close call walking down the freeway between Ferndale and Fortuna when a big cat (puma, mountain lion, cougar) came off the hill on the north side of the road and crossed in front of me about 20 feet away...made for a heart pumping walk to say the least...

Never let the revolver out of my hand the rest of the way...
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: ericire12 on January 26, 2009, 05:37:18 PM
The Tarus Judge would be a n ice choice too
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: Rob10ring on January 26, 2009, 06:53:55 PM
The Tarus Judge would be a n ice choice too
Not in Kalifornia.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: Fatman on January 26, 2009, 07:12:05 PM
I don't know much about revolvers, do they make DA/SA revolvers???

If you pull the hammer back with your thumb until it locks, your DA is now a single action. Trigger squeeze will now drop the hammer w/out having to cock the hammer and revolve the cylinder.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: 2HOW on January 26, 2009, 09:05:22 PM
Thats some sideways muzzle flip action goin on there. It looked like quite abit more recoil than a steel gun. Plus its ugly. Ill pass on this one and stick with my 649.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: fullautovalmet76 on January 26, 2009, 09:44:47 PM
OK. This thread is now the "Official Iron Maiden Thread of the Week"! If any of you know or care to remember, Iron Maiden was legendary for the never-ending ending to their song.......  ;)
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: Rob10ring on January 27, 2009, 12:12:29 AM
OK. This thread is now the "Official Iron Maiden Thread of the Week"! If any of you know or care to remember, Iron Maiden was legendary for the never-ending ending to their song.......  ;)
I saw them last summer. The best, other than Bluebone.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: ericire12 on January 27, 2009, 07:02:57 AM
I saw them last summer. The best, other than Bluebone.

Bluebone sucks! They are a bunch of hacks!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: PegLeg45 on January 27, 2009, 04:01:02 PM
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Eddie Lives !!!!!
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: steveodarko on January 30, 2009, 01:23:27 AM
I've never been a fan of the ruger semi autos but I always loved there revolvers!I think the lcr ould be kinda cool but I would want to try before I buy.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 30, 2009, 01:25:25 AM
I've never been a fan of the ruger semi autos but I always loved there revolvers!I think the lcr ould be kinda cool but I would want to try before I buy.

+1 Love the revolvers, HATE the semis, (except the .22's)  definitely try LCR before buying.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: Rob10ring on January 30, 2009, 01:49:39 AM
+1 Love the revolvers, HATE the semis, (except the .22's)  definitely try LCR before buying.
I have a P-89 and a P-95. Both have been 100% reliable, although they've never been my goto gun, I think they are solid and a bargain. I am interested in the LCR and I think not only trying them will be important, but maybe giving some time to prove themselves. I guess someone will have to get their toes wet.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: The Highlander on January 30, 2009, 12:09:00 PM
Oh Lawdy, that thing is plum fugly
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: rich642z on January 30, 2009, 11:23:12 PM
I got the March issue of  Guns And Ammo magazine with a write up from Dick Metcalf on it and Dick says on the trigger pull after shooting 100 rds of 158+ps rds was from 10 but felt like 8 pond trigger pull but it was smooth and light.   Since I am a revolver person myself,I think I am going to have my dealer order me one just to give some words about from my point of view on the ruger LCR revolver.   And the G&A mag shows the lock in the grip frame also but,no see lock,no use lock. Plain as that.  It even shows the trigger mech and Joe Zadjik showing the LCR parts before it is put together.  I am still getting one.  mike,When in your show Shooting Gallery are you going to show more on this new LCR????? rich642z   P.S. I want to see more of the polymer grip and that locking mech to see how it works. 8)
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 30, 2009, 11:26:55 PM
If you can afford it go ahead and get one. We would love to hear your feed back.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: rich642z on January 30, 2009, 11:36:52 PM
I also forgot to say that those prices on the LCR are MSRP pricing and I did talk to Ruger rep on the phone a week and ahalf ago on the prices and I told them to pass the message that S&W has them beat on the Crimson Trace Laser pricing and without on their airweights revolvers.  Time will tell on the pricing though.   rich642z   I will probably get one around spring-summer time posibility. I will have to put it on payment plan every 2 weeks since I am disabled shooter.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: Michael Bane on January 31, 2009, 07:58:44 PM
I talked to Ruger late last week, and should be getting an LCR in late February...

mb
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: rich642z on January 31, 2009, 08:34:53 PM
Mike,Thanks alot for your info on the Ruger LCR.   I will be recording your show each week and I hope you also have a S&W J frame airweght to test the 2 guns side by side on the parts,lock mech. and shooting both guns and compare recoil and muzzle flip with both revolvers.  And Again Mike,Thanks for your help on this. rich642z 8)
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: fullautovalmet76 on December 21, 2009, 08:37:42 PM
I had the chance to shoot one yesterday with CT laser grips. I liked the trigger but did not like the grips....I believe sticking with the stock Hogue grips is the best bet for this revolver. Overall, I think this revolver is well suited for the market it is intended.
Title: Re: The new Ruger Pocket Revolver is here: Ruger LCR
Post by: PegLeg45 on December 21, 2009, 10:18:34 PM
Handled one today for the first time. Stopped off at a little 'hole-in-the-wall hunting store in a small town and they had one (only had a dozen handguns in all). Price was $425. Balanced well in my hand and my wife liked it.
I'd really like to fire one.