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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: alfsauve on January 19, 2009, 08:03:38 PM
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Just to keep the fires burning,
The latest Brady Bunch campaign is "NRA MOVING OUT DAY", referring to inauguration day. Here's an excerpt from there latest email:
FINALLY! Celebrate NRA-Moving-Out Day with a Donation:
This is truly the time for your Brady Campaign and for common sense gun laws. Thanks to you, we're making a new start in Washington.
Click here to help launch our aggressive legislative initiatives at the outset of this critical year:
This is the moment: President Obama and Vice President Biden are long-time champions of common sense gun laws -- and more than 91 percent of Brady-endorsed candidates won a seat in the 111th Congress!
Jim and I have high hopes for our renewed and reinvigorated efforts to keep dangerous weapons out of the hands of dangerous people.
https://secure2.convio.net/mmm/site/Donation?ACTION=SHOW_DONATION_OPTIONS&CAMPAIGN_ID=1102 (https://secure2.convio.net/mmm/site/Donation?ACTION=SHOW_DONATION_OPTIONS&CAMPAIGN_ID=1102)
So for those who are just joining the game, here's the quick link to the Brady Bunch agenda in easy to read format,
http://www.bradycampaign.org/legislation/ (http://www.bradycampaign.org/legislation/)
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I think everyone should donate to the Brady Campaign. What we need to do is each send a $ 0.50 check. Surely the cost of processing the check will far exceed the donation.
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I think everyone should donate to the Brady Campaign. What we need to do is each send a $ 0.50 check. Surely the cost of processing the check will far exceed the donation.
How about a penny.
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Who say's Barry is going to lie to everyone BUT the Brady Bunch ;D They'll get screwed just like every one else that believed ole Barry.
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Who say's Barry is going to lie to everyone BUT the Brady Bunch ;D They'll get screwed just like every one else that believed ole Barry.
He's going to find out soon enough that he can't just ban 'em all like his short record suggests he will. He'll try, there's no doubt about that, but when the congressmen who want to be re-elected look at the number of guns sold in the past few months and realize the people they might seek to abuse aren't helpless...
I don't know how much faith to put in the blue-dogs, they're pretty new to the congress and the power structure that is will beat them into submission. It's the San Fransisco/Las Vegas way. The RINO's are no more reliable either.
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It's economics, the Black gun industry is booming instead of looking for a hand out, it's a Billion $ a year industry and several thousand jobs. He should be able to see that he has enough economic trouble without adding to it.
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It's economics, the Black gun industry is booming instead of looking for a hand out, it's a Billion $ a year industry and several thousand jobs. He should be able to see that he has enough economic trouble without adding to it.
He should, but will he give a shit?
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He should, but will he give a shit?
In the words of the Bard, "there in lies the rub" ;D
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Perhaps it's time for 2nd ammendment proponents to march in the streets like the so-called Million Mom March. Show the anti's exactly how many of us they are up against.
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Absolutely, how do you think the Gay rights groups did it ? All I need to know is when and where.
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Absolutely, how do you think the Gay rights groups did it ? All I need to know is when and where.
The gay rights did it by becoming rich and lawyers... trust me. thier marchs did nothing.
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Perhaps it's time for 2nd ammendment proponents to march in the streets like the so-called Million Mom March. Show the anti's exactly how many of us they are up against.
I say we send them all one empty brass case...a million of those show up and it would have a much greater impact than a million rednecks drinking in the National Mall. ;) Much cheaper than a plane ticket too.
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I say we send them all one empty brass case...a million of those show up and it would have a much greater impact than a million rednecks drinking in the National Mall. ;) Much cheaper than a plane ticket too.
They'd consider that a "terrorist threat".
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Perhaps it's time for 2nd ammendment proponents to march in the streets like the so-called Million Mom March. Show the anti's exactly how many of us they are up against.
make sure to hire the professional protesters like the left wing does with all their million something or other marches. even though it never ends up being a million of anything, unless you count pieces of litter left after the march.
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make sure to hire the professional protesters like the left wing does with all their million something or other marches. even though it never ends up being a million of anything, unless you count pieces of litter left after the march.
Sure it does, especially if their willing accomplices in the mainstream media are the ones doing the counting.
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Absolutely, how do you think the Gay rights groups did it ? All I need to know is when and where.
Sorry for the hijack, I am with you, but the wording made me laugh. Maybe I need more sleep ;D
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They'd consider that a "terrorist threat".
Not if 200million empty cases showed up from 200 million different guns. They would consider it a warning. ;)
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The gay rights did it by becoming rich and lawyers... trust me. thier marchs did nothing.
The marches kept the issue in the spot light. It's easy to ignore a report about a court case, it's much harder to ignore 1000 guys in drag waltzing down Main Street.
Granted, suing everyone in sight doesn't hurt either, we should be doing that as well. ACLU, breach of faith or some such, MSM for "Hate speech", any one with a "No Guns" sign, for discrimination. And before TAB get's going, you can't put up signs that say "No Irish" or "No Blacks", because thats discrimination, and they had not been previously certified as law abiding citizens the way we have.
Not if 200million empty cases showed up from 200 million different guns. They would consider it a warning. ;)
They would consider it 200millionbullets kept off the streets, (Yes I know what a bullet is, but they don't ) and unless it was all steel cased it would only be a loss to us of 200million reloadable cases.
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Here's an interesting article from Helmke which I read & just had to reply to - if they bother to post it!
http://www.opposingviews.com/articles/opinion-new-day-dawning-for-gun-violence-prevention
I wrote:
“Reducing the toll of 100,000 Americans killed or wounded every year by gunfire – including 20,000 children and teens....“ --- Only if you include twisted statistics such as the grouping of 18-21 year old 'druggies' & 'gang-bangers' in your statistics! The real number is about 6 child deaths! Not that any are good, but the decrease has been brought about by education & safety training by gun owners, not by bigots who twist facts to scare the uninformed.
“President-elect Obama's statements were consistent …..“ --- Only if you did not listen in various parts of the country. He said one thing to one group & another diametrically opposed thing to another group as a typical politician. He never stated his real agenda of total gun control. During his limited political career, he constantly took a stance on squashing gun rights in any form and has never recanted!
“…..the NICS Improvement Act.” --- This bill only made NICS uniform across all boundaries. It does nothing to stop criminals from purchasing or stealing guns. It does nothing to help law enforcement be in all places at once to protect citizens (nothing can – they do a great job under impossible conditions & then are taken to task by the media for doing their job!!!!). The truth is if guns were allowed on campuses by trained students & faculty, there would be no more 'Virginia Techs' & that massacre would never have occurred. Gun Free Zones are an open invitation to killers. Do you ever see that happening to a police station or a gun range or on military bases? No!
“...Heller...gun violence prevention advocates praised...” --- The Brady Campaign & other gun control advocates had no choice but to claim victory since their briefs to the court were called BS by the Supreme Court & were all but thrown out as ludicrous. The reason for the reference to the existing gun control laws being called 'presumptively awful' is the Heller case had nothing to do with those laws. The Supreme Court must limit the scope of their rulings to the case at hand and extraneous subjects handled separately.
"…sensible gun legislation...” --- Does not mean gun bans of any type. This is hype put forth by the Brady Campaign & others to slowly ban all guns. Full automatic weapons have been restricted for years (ever since Hollywood immortalized Capone, et al). The Clinton AWB restricted most modern guns & the proposed 'improved' AWB will restrict essentially any modern gun no matter what. The Constitution clearly prevents that.
“...2008 election...we won and the NRA bosses lost...” –- The Brady Campaign & other gun groups did not win & the NRA did not loose – where did this come from; more twisting of the facts. I don't remember either candidate at any time say “I favor guns” or “I oppose guns” In fact the issue was purposely danced around so as not to inflame either side .of the issue. The manipulated economy was the only issue. That over-shadowed any other topic. The better politician won because he was charismatic (good speech writer!), not because he was & always will be the anti-gun candidate.
“...only a handful of national gun control laws...” --- There are over 200000 gun control laws on the books today across the country & with others requested by the Brady Campaign et al, it is obvious they do not work. All gun control laws should be repealed en mass at all levels of government & all the monies spent on poor legislation like this should be funneled into local law enforcement. This would provide operating capital to prevent crime & enforce existing criminal law as well as prosecution of the guilty instead of plea-bargaining criminals to a token offense & releasing them so they can become repeat offenders.
The misguided Brady Campaign et al should become the Campaign for Criminal Reform And Punishment & be abbreviated more appropriately.
I left off the following: Brady Campaign for CRAP - didn't want to hurt any feelings!
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Here's an interesting article from Helmke which I read & just had to reply to - if they bother to post it!
http://www.opposingviews.com/articles/opinion-new-day-dawning-for-gun-violence-prevention
I wrote:
“Reducing the toll of 100,000 Americans killed or wounded every year by gunfire – including 20,000 children and teens....“ --- Only if you include twisted statistics such as the grouping of 18-21 year old 'druggies' & 'gang-bangers' in your statistics! The real number is about 6 child deaths! Not that any are good, but the decrease has been brought about by education & safety training by gun owners, not by bigots who twist facts to scare the uninformed.
“President-elect Obama's statements were consistent …..“ --- Only if you did not listen in various parts of the country. He said one thing to one group & another diametrically opposed thing to another group as a typical politician. He never stated his real agenda of total gun control. During his limited political career, he constantly took a stance on squashing gun rights in any form and has never recanted!
“…..the NICS Improvement Act.” --- This bill only made NICS uniform across all boundaries. It does nothing to stop criminals from purchasing or stealing guns. It does nothing to help law enforcement be in all places at once to protect citizens (nothing can – they do a great job under impossible conditions & then are taken to task by the media for doing their job!!!!). The truth is if guns were allowed on campuses by trained students & faculty, there would be no more 'Virginia Techs' & that massacre would never have occurred. Gun Free Zones are an open invitation to killers. Do you ever see that happening to a police station or a gun range or on military bases? No!
“...Heller...gun violence prevention advocates praised...” --- The Brady Campaign & other gun control advocates had no choice but to claim victory since their briefs to the court were called BS by the Supreme Court & were all but thrown out as ludicrous. The reason for the reference to the existing gun control laws being called 'presumptively awful' is the Heller case had nothing to do with those laws. The Supreme Court must limit the scope of their rulings to the case at hand and extraneous subjects handled separately.
"…sensible gun legislation...” --- Does not mean gun bans of any type. This is hype put forth by the Brady Campaign & others to slowly ban all guns. Full automatic weapons have been restricted for years (ever since Hollywood immortalized Capone, et al). The Clinton AWB restricted most modern guns & the proposed 'improved' AWB will restrict essentially any modern gun no matter what. The Constitution clearly prevents that.
“...2008 election...we won and the NRA bosses lost...” –- The Brady Campaign & other gun groups did not win & the NRA did not loose – where did this come from; more twisting of the facts. I don't remember either candidate at any time say “I favor guns” or “I oppose guns” In fact the issue was purposely danced around so as not to inflame either side .of the issue. The manipulated economy was the only issue. That over-shadowed any other topic. The better politician won because he was charismatic (good speech writer!), not because he was & always will be the anti-gun candidate.
“...only a handful of national gun control laws...” --- There are over 200000 gun control laws on the books today across the country & with others requested by the Brady Campaign et al, it is obvious they do not work. All gun control laws should be repealed en mass at all levels of government & all the monies spent on poor legislation like this should be funneled into local law enforcement. This would provide operating capital to prevent crime & enforce existing criminal law as well as prosecution of the guilty instead of plea-bargaining criminals to a token offense & releasing them so they can become repeat offenders.
The misguided Brady Campaign et al should become the Campaign for Criminal Reform And Punishment & be abbreviated more appropriately.
I left off the following: Brady Campaign for CRAP - didn't want to hurt any feelings!
You're my new hero!! ;D