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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: philw on January 23, 2009, 05:08:39 PM

Title: Social Engineering / Wealth Redistribution
Post by: philw on January 23, 2009, 05:08:39 PM
I remember reading here during the election on how the demarcates want to hand out tax dollars to everyone that is not working ( like it happens over here  I saw this
how true is this??  as I have not heard of these people


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opxuUj6vFa4
Explosive Video Robert Reich, Obamas economic advisor doesnt want recovery jobs for "White Male Construction Workers"
Charlie Rangel says Middle class wont fight back
Charlie Rangel and Robert Reich are conspiring to ensure SOCIAL ENGINEERING and WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION
Title: Re: Social Engineering / Wealth Redistribution
Post by: ericire12 on January 23, 2009, 05:24:01 PM
Now that Obama is President, you will see racism on levels that you would never before have been able to believe. Obama doesn't give a damn about helping our economy recover.... he wants to use this as a back door way of bringing about bigger govt and passing more entitlement programs.
Title: Re: Social Engineering / Wealth Redistribution
Post by: ericire12 on January 23, 2009, 06:16:18 PM
Michelle Malkin talking about this subject:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmeB4WMSZKY




Exit Question: Damn she is hot, aint she?
Title: Re: Social Engineering / Wealth Redistribution
Post by: philw on January 23, 2009, 06:24:28 PM
Michelle Malkin talking about this subject:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmeB4WMSZKY




Exit Question: Damn she is hot, aint she?


hehehe  she is very cool   
Title: Re: Social Engineering / Wealth Redistribution
Post by: deamonpi on January 23, 2009, 07:39:03 PM
As was sorta brought this stimulus roads and bridges proposal, the only people going to receive money are Surveyors (Skilled) Engineering Companies (Skilled) and Construction companies (non-skilled), it will have nothing to do with anyone being laid off right now.  Not only that but the Democrat controlled Congressional Budget Office said 60% of the proposed Stimulus won't even reach the those looking for a hand out until 2011.
Title: Re: Social Engineering / Wealth Redistribution
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 23, 2009, 07:40:31 PM
Bribes for the 2010 elections.
Title: Re: Social Engineering / Wealth Redistribution
Post by: deamonpi on January 23, 2009, 07:43:47 PM
yeah that's right.  By the way you are fast.
Title: Re: Social Engineering / Wealth Redistribution
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 23, 2009, 07:48:45 PM
That one finger I type with is SMOKING ! ;D
Title: Re: Social Engineering / Wealth Redistribution
Post by: ericire12 on January 23, 2009, 07:50:36 PM
Trigger finger = typing finger
Title: Re: Social Engineering / Wealth Redistribution
Post by: alfsauve on January 23, 2009, 08:39:54 PM
Dang, can I get "un-educated"?  Can I "un-learn" so I can get some of this money.   Wasted all that time going trying to improve myself.  Paid my way through college, for what?   So somebody whose been sittin' on the arse there whole life can reap the benefit.




Michelle Malkin talking about this subject:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmeB4WMSZKY
Exit Question: Damn she is hot, aint she?

She's always a must read.
Title: Re: Social Engineering / Wealth Redistribution
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 23, 2009, 10:26:27 PM
Dang, can I get "un-educated"?  Can I "un-learn" so I can get some of this money.   Wasted all that time going trying to improve myself.  Paid my way through college, for what?   So somebody whose been sittin' on the arse there whole life can reap the benefit.




She's always a must read.

Pretty much, welcome to the world accord to Marx   :-[
Title: Re: Social Engineering / Wealth Redistribution
Post by: runstowin on January 23, 2009, 11:49:33 PM
Some excerpts from Paul Craig Roberts:

The US budget deficit for fiscal year 2009 already appears to be on a path to $2 trillion, and that is before Obama’s stimulus program. What we are looking at is a $3 trillion budget deficit if Obama’s program is enacted in time to impact the economy this year.

The federal government’s likely solution to the debt problem will be to monetize the debt, that is, the government will finance its deficit by printing money. Debt will be inflated away. But for those Americans without jobs or whose incomes do not rise with inflation, life will be cruel.

Life is already cruel for Americans living on retirement savings. Not only has the stock market bust reduced their wealth by half, but also their remaining assets are producing no income. Interest rates are so low that debt instruments produce no income, and there are scant capital gains in the stock market. Retirees are living by consuming their capital.

The trade deficit can be significantly reduced by bringing offshored jobs back to America. One way to do this is to tax corporations according to the value added to their output that occurs in the US. Corporations that produce their products for US markets abroad would have high tax rates; those that produce domestically would have low tax rates.

http://www.vdare.com/roberts/090121_real_estate.htm
Title: Re: Social Engineering / Wealth Redistribution
Post by: deamonpi on January 24, 2009, 01:20:28 PM
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Life is already cruel for Americans living on retirement savings. Not only has the stock market bust reduced their wealth by half, but also their remaining assets are producing no income. Interest rates are so low that debt instruments produce no income, and there are scant capital gains in the stock market. Retirees are living by consuming their capital.
Its a bad investment portfolio to have all retirement investments in one area, including stocks.  Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they deserve(d) to fail, or or to suffer, but...( I don't know).  To be sure any money not having been cashed out is not money, If you put in $1000, then market gains make it $5000, them market crashes and you cash out with its worth being $2000, that's still a $1000 gain not a $3000 loss.  Its not real money unless its money, otherwise its perceived value.

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The trade deficit can be significantly reduced by bringing offshored jobs back to America. One way to do this is to tax corporations according to the value added to their output that occurs in the US. Corporations that produce their products for US markets abroad would have high tax rates; those that produce domestically would have low tax rates.
I don't like the Gov't interfering with the market.  For almost any reason, especially when it is an Emergency measure, thay always screw those up.