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Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: weatherbyman on January 29, 2009, 03:57:57 PM
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I am looking for an new high cap .45, need some suggestions on getting a new one. It would be an upgrade to my p90, not really a fan of 1911s just my opinion. thanks
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I am looking for an new high cap .45, need some suggestions on getting a new one. It would be an upgrade to my p90, not really a fan of 1911s just my opinion. thanks
If people dont start using the term standard capacity, I think Bane might go into Haz's "clip" mode. ;D ;D ;D ;D
*p.s. GLOCK! ;)
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Ericire12: what's wrong in asking for a .45 that holds a lot of ammo via calling it high cap?
Weatherbyman:
Tommy Gun?
If you're not a fan of the 1911, what are you a fan of?
Overload in CO
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Bane hates that term as much as Haz hates the term Clip...... and he is right, It was coined by the far left gun grabbers.
Example: Standard capacity .45 Glock magazine holds 13 rounds...... Brady wants standard capacity to be defined as 10 rounds...... a true high capacity .45 Glock magazine holds 25 rounds and extends well behond the length of a standard magazine
*CLIP!
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I beleive the term that we should be using is "double stack."
Single Stack = One round on top of the other
Double Stack = Rounds alternate from side to side. Not truely two seperate stacks, but alternating about a third to a half cartridge diameter to the side
A 1911 (single stack) will have a magazine capacity of seven or eight rounds (I don't want to debate that all over again), and a 2011 (double stack) will have a capacity of 13 or 14 rounds.
All of that being said ...
If you don't like the 1911 I would not look at the 2011. You would probably want to look at Glock, M&P, XD or some similar design. They may all look similar, but the differences between them can be huge between shooters. Go to a gun shop and handle them. Then go to a range that rents guns and try them.
Good Luck!
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sorry about the magazine gaffe. I would like to find a double stack.45 with more capacity than my 7 round p 90. I was sort of leaning toward the hk or a glock but was looking for an outside opinions. I dont have anything against 1911s other than I already own a .45 with 7 round, wanted more like 13.
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Have you looked at the FNP-45? It's kind of a handful.
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I hadnt thought of the fn but I will check them out thanks
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I believe the Springfield XD(M), is coming out with, (maybe out already), a larger round capacity .45 ACP.
Seems all the Gun mags have the XD's on the cover. American Rifleman (Feb.) has the # of rounds at 13. in the .45.
Not a 1911, fondle all you can.
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thanks for all the suggestions the hunt is definately my favorite part of getting a new firearm
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I like all of them. Glock, HK, Para and the XD. I've shot all and would recommend the Glock to anyone who's hand will fit around it properly. The Glock 21SF isn't too thick. I'd think that with Springfield bringing out all of these XD-M's that the original XD would be a buy right now.
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The original XD has 14+1 in .45 ACP...the XD(M) is coming with 19+1 of 9mm x 19...
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I definately need to look at the xd and the m&p just dont have any experience with them. I own an hk usp 40 and a glock 23 and have been happy with both but there are so many different choices I wanted to find out about other models.
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Why Hi-Cap may I ask? Magazine capacity of 14 or 15 rounds of .45 ACP (230 gr) adds more that half a pound to the weight of the gun...
If I could get my hands on a Glock 36 in MA (which ain't gonna happen), I'd stop looking.
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I want double stack lol because size and weight isnt really a concern. Im just looking for a good range gun to have fun blasting away with.
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thanks for all the suggestions the hunt is definately my favorite part of getting a new firearm
You just missed the promo for the M&P with 4 mags, 3 holsters, hat, and OBTW, a .45 M&P.
I'm partial to my Sig P220, and if money is an issue, try the Taurus 24/7, especially the OSS version.
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I want double stack lol because size and weight isnt really a concern. Im just looking for a good range gun to have fun blasting away with.
Yea it is kind of fun to burn through a 15 round magazine once in a while but that's why they make a Beretta 92FS...cheap and eats anything, at least mine did....but I was a kid then without any bills to pay or family to feed or clothes to buy..
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Why Hi-Cap may I ask? Magazine capacity of 14 or 15 rounds of .45 ACP (230 gr) adds more that half a pound to the weight of the gun...
If I could get my hands on a Glock 36 in MA (which ain't gonna happen), I'd stop looking.
Well, if he's thin enough that he still has a waist, weight on the belt doesn't matter as much. Glock 30SF might be worth looking at too, not quite as many rounds, but still plenty.
You made me check to see if the 36 is approved for CA. Hooray! A gun that is actually on the list!
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Waist? Whats a waist?
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havent seen a waist in years. made the mistake of asking for a iwb holster for my glock 23 for christmas found out theres not enough room lol
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havent seen a waist in years. made the mistake of asking for a iwb holster for my glock 23 for christmas found out theres not enough room lol
Hilarious! I just got mine back the past few month, walking 20 miles a week. I found that I can use paddle holsters and mag holders again. I'd avoided a few matches just because my holsters got uncomfortable.
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havent seen a waist in years. made the mistake of asking for a iwb holster for my glock 23 for christmas found out theres not enough room lol
;D Already plenty inside the waist band around here! But I'm trying....In my own defense, I did get run over by a van so excersize hurts for more than one reason... ::)
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Thread drift ::)
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Drift back to the middle.
Since you own a Glock and like it, my 1st choice is the model 21, reliable, accurate and 13 + 1, even now mags are not ( wince ) too expensive. 25-30 bucks. I have had one for a long time, and it is my favorite go to, pistol, on the street, at home and in the field, not perfect, but as perfect as I can find. My next suggestion is a Para Ordnance P14, now available with 15 + 1 capacity, mine is an LDA model, limited with adjustable AO sights, I don't have big hands, but the big frame feels fine in them. I would like to play with the XD 45 and the M&P .45, but have not, You have an H&K and they make fine .45 pistols, but cost of the pistol and cost of magazines are high. They are also larger than the aforementioned, but if your familiar with them, might fit you. I think the Glock is the best fit for you, on the information you've given us. But if you just want to try something different, then the world is your oyster, but in these times, I would stick to what I'm familiar with, and can get magazines for.
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Are the Glock mags still out there?
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thanks everyone for there input. the mags fot the hk are ridiculous your are right. Ill have to get up to sportsmans and get a 21 in my hands next to the para and m&p and xd
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If people dont start using the term standard capacity, I think Bane might go into Haz's "clip" mode. ;D ;D ;D ;D
*p.s. GLOCK! ;)
Properly speaking in a 1911 it would be" Hi cap" , in a Glock it would be "standard capacity". And since the OP doesn't care for 1911's, a Glock would be my suggestion.
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don't forget the smith 3rd gens... They are very nice and can be found both new and as LE trade ins. Many large police forces use them vs other guns as they are all steal.
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Are the Glock mags still out there?
Yep,
http://www.lonewolfdist.com/
* I suggest only buying OEM mags...... Have heard that the Scherer mags are a crap shoot if you will get a good one or not, so as far as high cap (25+ rounds) you will be limited to the 9mm 33 rounders.
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I have 3 double stack .45s. All 3 are Paras and one is an LDA. If you don't want a 1911 you should still try an LDA. I don't know anyone who's tried the Light Double Action trigger and doesn't like it. Magazine capacity is 14 on the full-size gun.
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The newest P14 mags from Para are 15 rounders, +1 so 16, cool and not more expensive yet. CDNN Investments. I bought 8 before the madness, but they have not gone up there.
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Para Ordinance but it would be a moose for CCW. GT
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havent got my hands on the para yet. but theres a gun show in march hopefully see one there.
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If you buy a new Para you can get 3 hi-cap mags for $75. They normally sell for $49 each, so that's about half off.
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I want the FNP 45, the weapon holds dead on for me and fits my hand to a T. I am, however looking hard at the Taurus 845 which is a hammer-fired polymer framed pistol which has many of the 24/7's features. My big issue is magazines, I prefer 20 to 30 at the minimum and with the kind of prices that they want for double stacked it is an issue. The $399 price I've seen for the 845 would tend to take some of the sting out of the bottom line.
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held the para today and liked it. the one i was handling was a demo and went for 900$ so a new one was over a thousand have to save up for that one
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Shop around. The last pistol I bought was $200 cheaper at one place than another.