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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: ericire12 on January 30, 2009, 10:01:27 PM
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http://hotair.com/archives/2009/01/30/report-ted-nugent-might-run-for-nra-president/
But Nugent tells Whispers he stands ready to battle the antigunners in Washington. “Clearly, the NRA is the ultimate ‘we the people,’ family, grass-roots organization for what is clearly Job 1 for free men everywhere: to guarantee our God-given right to keep and bear arms and defend ourselves,” he tells our Suzi Parker. “To be so honored to participate in any way, as an NRA board member or the ultimate honor of serving as president, would surely be a duty I would put my heart and soul into. I am genuinely moved that it is even being discussed. I am ready, willing, and able to serve if the good NRA members call upon me.”
Hell yeah!
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Maybe if we get some of our own "star power" people might take more of a notice.
But then again, I've also been a fan of Hollywood types keeping their opinions to themselves(you are paid to pretend, I don't give a $hit what you think). Uncle Teds different though.
Go Nuge!
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Tell it like it is Ted.... I think he would do a great job.
Some say, he's to brash and in your face. ;D
GO UNCLE TED!!!!
Wango Z Tango
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Uncle Ted as President would eliminate the belief that NRA is to willing to compromise. Get them NUGE ;D
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Cool, 1st he is a performer, not an actor, ( although Chuck Heston and Ronald Reagan were actors ), He is intense, and a no holds barred speaker and defender of the 2nd A, He should have written and performed Tom Petty's " I won't back down ", because that is the way he is, but he is articulate and makes a common sense argument for our cause, with No apology I think this is the true path. If it comes to a vote, you NRA members, and I hope you all are, cast your vote with confidence.
I have met Uncle Ted, 4 times, He is a gentleman, and has a skill of making you seem special, the 1st time I met him, was at the Martin Archery booth at SHOT, like 1994, Shemane was holding Rocko in diapers, behind the table, there was a line of 30 people, when my turn came, he looked at my badge, and said, " Dallas Pistol Club, what is that? A shooting range? " I replied yes, and then He went into a conversation with me, like we knew each other, although there were 20 people behind me, I was thinking of the people behind me, but he just chatted me up. I have never forgotten. I and He were conversing, like we were alone, that is his gift.
One of my friends, ( now deceased ) became a board member of the NRA, and his seat was next to Ted, and He related to me later, that, He did not completely agree with him, but you could not ignore him. He made good arguments. This was a bulls'eye shooter, at that time about 68 years old. ( God rest his sole ), who did not appreciate the tactical sports, until he watched our state championship, which I put on 3 times, and behind our backs described what we were doing to his buddies, and said, " they were hitting the targets too". He went on to do our CCW training for many years. He too was a true gentleman, James Nicholson, at one time the president of the Texas State Rifle Association. A True contributor.
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Uncle Ted as President would eliminate the belief that NRA is to willing to compromise. Get them NUGE ;D
hehe that would be cool
also what is Chuck Norris's view on the 2nd Amendment
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hehe that would be cool
also what is Chuck Norris's view on the 2nd Amendment
PRO ! ;D
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PRO ! ;D
DUH!
He supported Huckabee, you know he is conservative.
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Thats the last thing the NRA needs to do.
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Thats the last thing the NRA needs to do.
Aw, Tab, just when I think you've mellowed out and gone soft, you come out with one of your patented silly statements.
What the NRA needs to do is be strong, to stand its ground and not only not give in an inch (as its history shows it is want to do), but to be a force to be reckoned with. Nugent's take no prisoner's attitude will alienate some people - mostly those who are already strong antis. His strong social appeal will help some of the fence sitters to look more seriously at what the 2A is about.
Now, more than ever, we need a broad based effort to defend our rights, not rolling over and worrying about how the other side will think of us.
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"To my mind it is wholly irresponsible to go into the world incapable of preventing violence, injury, crime, and death. How feeble is the mindset to accept defenselessness. How unnatural. How cheap. How cowardly. How pathetic."
Ted Nugent
Maybe letting the Brady Bunch know that the Motor City Madman is going to take it right to your office door and make the anti's hide under their desks is a good thing.
GO TED!!!
"Drugs are for fools. I told (rock legends) Jimi Hendrix, Keith Moon and Jerry Garcia what was going to happen to them if they kept taking drugs. Well, look what happened. They took drugs, and they’re dead. I went hunting, and I’m still Ted."
Ted Nugent
Mrs. Brady: There's someone here to speak with you,......
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/ted_nugent.jpg)
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If you listen to Ted and more importantly watch the way he lives his life you will see that he is as clean cut as they come. No drugs, alcohol, family man, American values, community supporter, etc. He also does something we need more of - speaks his mind and does not apologize for it. If your not sure what Ted believes, and I mean everything Ted believes, you aren't listening.
Elect Ted and we will send a message that goes the next step beyond Heston's "from my cold dead hands!"
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If you listen to Ted and more importantly watch the way he lives his life you will see that he is as clean cut as they come. No drugs, alcohol, family man, American values, community supporter, etc. He also does something we need more of - speaks his mind and does not apologize for it. If your not sure what Ted believes, and I mean everything Ted believes, you aren't listening.
Elect Ted and we will send a message that goes the next step beyond Heston's "from my cold dead hands!"
Thats not the way most of the world sees him. Do you really think some one like ted will bring the middle and some of the near left around to the NRAs veiw points?
I love the fact that he says whats on his mind. Its his actions that I take offense too.
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Thats not the way most of the world sees him. Do you really think some one like ted will bring the middle and some of the near left around to the NRAs veiw points?
I love the fact that he says whats on his mind. Its his actions that I take offense too.
I'm with TAB. While I personally like Ted, what he does, and what he stands for. I think he could actually drive people away from the NRA since he's a little too extreme for most of the middle and left folks around. That and the fact that he seems to actually promote responsibility, which far too few people want anymore (they'd rather just wander around looking for someone to blame for their problems so they can sue them)
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I may not agree with TAB on this issue, but I will say he does seem to have a firm grip on two sensitive matters and he appears to have his hands full dealing with them.
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What actions do you not agree with ... No drug use ... Teach youth no drug use ... Hunts and uses what he kills ... Explains why it is important not to just trophy hunt ... Lives by non-trophy hunt ethics ... Is a strong family man ... Gives to individuals and the community of both his time, money and resources ... Is what he says he is (maybe that is what most people hate about him - he doesn't hide his real feelings and beliefs) ... Write, wrong, popular or unpopular he does not sway and shift in his beliefs ... Not afraid to speak his mind to anyone of any station ... ?
I will admit that if I was given the choice between Tom Seleck and Uncle Ted, I would go with Tom. However, I see nothing wrong with going up against the likes of Sarah Brady (sp?) and Rebecca Peters with someone just as in your face as they and their minions are.
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The main one is him becoming a LEO in name only just so he can carry in all 50 states.
Every thing else I can attribute to rock'n roll.( example the recent suck on my machine gun comments during a concert.)
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He has been rather supportive of our troops, so I am willing to let a little slide. Also if NRA members leave just because of him I would question their commitment to the preserving our freedoms.
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He has been rather supportive of our troops, so I am willing to let a little slide. Also if NRA members leave just because of him I would question their commitment to the preserving our freedoms.
This is the exact attitude that will lead to the end of guns rights. I mean wtf how dare you question some one elses commitment, to preserving thier freedoms by no longer being part of a org that they no longer beleave is on the right path.
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Reply to TAB, Poorsoulin NJ, and others who think Ted is to brash, I will point out that for the last several decades the NRA has been run by people with a mind set similar to yours and they have been steadily loosing ground. Your ideas are no different than Obama's stated foreign policy, an attempt to reuse ideas that have consistantly failed in the past.
No war is won by defense, and if you do not think this is a war then you have not been paying attention for the past 90 years or so. Socialism is an INTERNATIONALIST ideology aimed at world domination, (Marx said communism would not be achieved from socialism until the entire world reached socialism. ) That is why a political theory dreamed up by and promoted by Germans achieved its first victory in Russia. Anyone who reads history knows that communist and socialist movements had begun infiltrating the US in the late 1800's. The fall of the Soviet Union did not end the attack on the US by world communism, it simply changed the nature of it, why else would one worlders like George Soros spend billions of dollars financing the likes of Rebbeca Peters and her UN attacks on gun rights world wide.
Now is not the time to "play nice" on the gun rights issue, We did that with FDR and got the NFA, we continued to follow your methods and got the GCA 68, we STILL didn't learn and got the clinton AWB. 3 strikes, your out. It is time to take the offensive and TAKE back our civil liberties. If you consider the Spanish American War and the aftermath in Asia of our media influenced withdrawal from Vietnam there is a case to be made that the 1st Amendment has killed more people than all the gun related deaths of the 20th century.
It's PAST time to fight back and Ted is the guy to take the fight to the enemy.
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I think that this small piece of Teds resume may make some of the nay-sayers aware that this man LIVES his life for his passions and is more than qualified and articulate enough to perform the task at hand. Also, he's been a deputy Sheriff in the state of Michigan since 1978, before concealed carry laws of almost any kind existed.
Shooting sports are my hobby and I carry because I can't outrun em anymore. This mans entire life has been involved in hunting and shooting sports.
Life Member of:
The National Rifle Association (NRA), Michigan Bow Hunters, Citizen's Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, Second Amendment Foundation, Gun Owners of America, Gun Owners of California, Director Law Enforcement, Alliance of America, New York City Benevolent Policeman's Association, National Wildlife Federation, Ducks Unlimited, Michigan United Conservation Clubs, Michigan Big Game Hunters Association, Handgun Hunters International, Michigan Sheriff's Association, National Trappers Association, U.S. Sportsmen's Alliance, Wisconsin Bowhunters Association, Mississippi Bowhunters, Drug Abuse Resistance Education (DARE) Spokesman, Outdoor Writers Association of America, Coalition of Michigan Hunters, National Field Archers Association (NFAA), Director Canadian Outdoor Heritage Alliance (COHA), Putting People First, South Dakota Archery Association, Maryland Bowhunters Society, Arizona Bowhunter Society, United Bowhunters of Connecticut, Massachusetts Bowhunting Association, United Bowhunters of Pennsylvania, Ohio Society of Traditional Archers (OSTA), South Carolina Bowhunters, Director: Michigan Bowhunting Conference and Vice President: American Shooting Sports Council
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The last thing the NRA needs is a loud mouth like the Nuge. Sure he is entertaining. Like when you go to the circus you laugh at the clowns. If you read his stuff you will also realize he has got a criminal record which he had to address when when he started to get into Class III weapons. With a little legwork on the web you will see that he has a background that isn't what I would want any kids to be around.
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The last thing the NRA needs is a loud mouth like the Nuge. Sure he is entertaining. Like when you go to the circus you laugh at the clowns. If you read his stuff you will also realize he has got a criminal record which he had to address when when he started to get into Class III weapons. With a little legwork on the web you will see that he has a background that isn't what I would want any kids to be around.
Yet he qualifies for class 3, holds youth camps for bowhunting, has a top rated hunting show, is a family man, allows the secret service to use his property here in Texas for additional training, can carry anywhere in the United States. So I guess the criminal record thing must not be a big deal??? But if it's on the WEB, it must be true!! ::)
As things are now, He gets more public speaking out for gun rights by virtue of his day job, rock and roll, by interviews, than any single member of the NRA, CCKBA. GOA etc..., and it is to a younger audience mostly, who are getting nothing like this in their class rooms, or the media they watch, or listen too, except for the Nuge. And most reporters cannot handle him, or his responses, most of our representatives in the gun culture are too polite, they come prepared and speak their piece, but get continuously interrupted, by the other side and allow it to happen and then anti's rule the debate, Ted does not let that happen, and makes fools of those who try that tactic with him.
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And at one point he was having sex with a 16 year old girl while being her legal gardian... if he did that now, it would be a crime, but it was not in the 70s.
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Ted walks his talk. He is my blood brother and I unconditionally support him!
Michael B
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M25
His site, his words....a family man? You got to be kidding. I wouldn't let a young girl anywhere near him. Five kids, three mothers, gave up one kid up for adoption...he gets a pass because he has money and America loves rockers. Lets have Britney Spears as President.
http://www.tednugent.com/hunting/news/2006/default.aspx?PostID=165
So you want this vulgarity to represent us as gun owners in front of the world. Great move.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPMslg98r9M
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M25
His site, his words....a family man? You got to be kidding. I wouldn't let a young girl anywhere near him. Five kids, three mothers, gave up one kid up for adoption...he gets a pass because he has money and America loves rockers. Lets have Britney Spears as President.
http://www.tednugent.com/hunting/news/2006/default.aspx?PostID=165
So you want this vulgarity to represent us as gun owners in front of the world. Great move.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPMslg98r9M
Read my previous post. The people YOU approve of have been getting us screwed for nearly a century. WTFU, Your way doesn't work.
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If you can't support Ted Nugent, please let us know who else is ready TODAY to redirect the NRA to do what we want it to do: Fight for the 2ndAmendment. Not to collaborate on the least damaging laws that continue to erode the 2nd Amendment.
Besides, it seems that he is overcompensating for his misdeeds of the past. How many others have done so so fervently?
When things are dire, the perfect person comes to lead. Remember the English Bulldog of Britain during WWII? He failed at everything he tried, was hated by his own party, but was the only person to personify England and keep his country's morale up when NOBODY supported them during the first part of the war and throughout the duration.
History does repeat itself, not just literally. And make no mistake, we gun owners are in a war of survival with the antis.
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I can think of two off the bat. Oliver North or Tom Selleck. Both are media savy and are decent folks to represent 3 million members. Put a clown as the head of the NRA and kiss your rights good bye. He is not my blood brother (whatever the hell that means, like some 5 year old talking). He is a fool.
I understand the frustration at what is and has been happening for what seems like forever. But for my 2 cents worth it ain't changing. The NRA is a big business. It deals with politicians who are power and money hungry. The gun industry runs all YOUR media (gun show television, magazines, websites etc). All these folks party together and go for drinks after five. So everything YOU THINK IS the voice of the community is BS. You are being manipluated by others on both sides for their own purposes.
It is so very easy to rile up a bunch of folks. Its so easy to get folks all juiced up and call for heads to roll. Get them all to buy buy buy. Whatever the controllers want. But what happens once the crowds put il duce in power? Same old stuff. If Nuge was made el Presidente what do you really think is going to happen? He's going to punch Pelosi out? Come on be real.
If you want to visit the past go look up what happened in 1977 with Harlon Carter. With Neal Knox. With Dave Caplan. They were not clowns. They were intelligent dedicated SA rights folks. How about Charlton Heston. You couldn't get a better spokesman than GOD himself. Yet less than 10 years later we are back on the same warpath of tearing ourselves apart. This whole argument happens about every 10 or twenty years. We love to rip our own guts out in front of everyone.
The President of the NRA isn't going to do squatolla. What really needs to be done is at the grassroots local level. Your council members, your mayor, your school board. Look around, who is doing that? Very few out of the MILLIONS OF GUN OWNERS. You can't really motivate the gun community. They just won't do the hard work. You can't even get them to write their representatives or call them. Look at this site. You have moderators who don't even belong to the NRA. Waz up with that? My state has 20 Million in population. The NRA state org has about 9 or 10 thousand members. They held a political action dinner two years ago and got 20 people to show up. TWENTY FREAKING PEOPLE out of how many gun owners?
Sorry but I am fed up with all the BS and big ego folks in the gun community. Everyone else wants to be a spectator. Well you can't have it that way. Actually you can, but your going to loose your rights in the long run.
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What else can we as gun owners do? I e-mail my elected representatives. I sign petitions. I belong to several gun and grassroots organizations. I live in a relatively pro-gun/sportsman state. I purchase hunting and fishing licenses even though I can only hunt or fish one or two days out of the year.
I punch a time clock. I am not wealthy enough to travel cross country to dinners or to financially support any of those organizations on a regular basis.
There are thousands of people just like me out there. What else can we do?
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Remember that the NRA President is nothing more than the official spokesman of the organization. Sure it is more than that and I have over simplified their ability to bring in their personality and beliefs, but there is an entire board and CEO that carry out the actual mission of the organization. However, at some point we need a spokesman that will sit with the message crafters and find a way to present the pro-gun Constitutional message in a no BS way.
Above all else everyone needs to remember that Ted is a professional performer and entertainer. He has been successful for four decades because he can present a message to audiences in ways that each audience is open to. Ted is never going to be brought down the the adrenaline level of Mother Teresa, but he is capable of presenting himself respectfully in a boardroom (I have seen him in interviews in professional settings and he does well). I have seen him on talk shows and news broadcasts where he behaves better than many politicians while still standing firm and taking no bull or prisoners.
I respect Mr. Heston and Mr. Selleck very much, but I have seen people disrespect them in very ugly ways because of their stance. So, why not give a person that is both coachable and educated on the issues take a shot of standing up for our organization. Like I have said before, the other side is rude, crude and inflexible, so why can't we also take an inflexible stance, and I know of no better person Ted Nugent to present it.
On a positive side to all nay sayers: The people that make policy and deal with our Rights know and understand the structure of the NRA. Even if they do not like the messenger they know that he is just the spokesman sent to present for the entire organization.
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1776, you need to take a deep breath! We are not "ripping our guts out in front of everyone." This is nothing like the NRA battles of the 1970s (and I counted Neil Knox as a friend). I just came back from NRA HQ last week, I've been in touch with NSSF, and I would say that we are in as good a shape as we can be in. We are getting ready to fight a war, and as a culture we're pretty much on point. We are as united as I've ever seen us, and that is going to be our strength in the upcoming battle.
As m58 notes, the NRA President is essentially an "official spokesperson" position...the president doesn't set the organization's policy.
Is Ted over the top? Yes, but these are over the top times. I have seen Ted take on very prepared, very smart and very articulate antigunners — Bill Maher comes to mind — and win every single time. He has consistently put his money where his mouth is and he does not back down.
I am of the opinion that many of our media relations strategies over the years have failed miserably, and yet we have held onto far too many of them. Because we didn't want the other side to think we weren't being "nice," or that we were being "unreasonable" or that we weren't interested in a "dialog." We debated while they lied....but heaven forbid we appear unreasonable, or unwilling to compromise, or, even worse, gun nuts. Here's a flash...the other sides hates us! They hate us because of what the gun represents — our willingness to accept responsibility for our own lives — and what it tells them about themselves — that they are cowards in a world of cowards.
Raygun, you're doing everything right, and here at DRTV we'll be outlining specifics that we can all do...I've been talking about exactly that subject on the weekly podcast recently.
Faith...we've weathered dark times before, and as the current NRA Prez, John Siglar said recently, this is not our first rodeo...
Michael B
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What else can we as gun owners do? I e-mail my elected representatives. I sign petitions. I belong to several gun and grassroots organizations. I live in a relatively pro-gun/sportsman state. I purchase hunting and fishing licenses even though I can only hunt or fish one or two days out of the year.
I punch a time clock. I am not wealthy enough to travel cross country to dinners or to financially support any of those organizations on a regular basis.
There are thousands of people just like me out there. What else can we do?
Raygun you don't have to be wealthy or have a title to be a patriot. You can do much with little. The thing which IMHO is missing is the steadfast local folks who will beat the drum all year long. What you are doing is the right thing. The effective thing. You need to be multiplied by hundreds and then thousands. That is the missing piece. When someone in your local town or city proposes anti-gun stuff you and your comrades need to mount a reply. It needs to be a strong and steady voice. You need to pack the town hall. You need to melt down the phones to your elected officials.
Movements all over the world and all thru time need leaders. Charismatic leaders that motivate vast numbers of followers. Yes there are followers and leaders. But in the end it is the large numbers that make or break movements. Without the motivated base there is no hope. The base is no less noble for what it does than the leader who gets the press. The base needs to be educated. Read the papers/web, stay in touch with what is going on in your town or state. If you belong to a club make sure your club members are motivated. Make sure they know what is going on and what needs to be done. There is no magic here. You have a computer, a mind and a mouth, use it to our advantage. Your asking a question of "what to do" shows what we as a community have failed miserably at. Organization and harnessing of willing hands.
Dare I say it? Learn from the Democrats and the Obama campaign. Its the basic blocking and tackling that needs to be done and then multiplied by millions. Over and over again. Time and time again. Hold your position. Hold the fort againist attack. Work as a team. Work together. If a gap opens up, fill it. Don't give up and don't give in. But your not a robot. Use your brain. Think about options. Think it through always. Think about the cause and how best to serve it. Don't trust blindly in a "leader" or someone with the microphone. Recruit, Recruit, Recruit. Don't loose faith. Do what you can, but don't do things which will hurt us either.
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I'm not sure that I've ever met anybody whose opinions and instincts are more directly opposed to my own. And yet, in some odd way, I find Ted Nugent impossible to dislike: I think because I consider him to be a psychotic - by the classic definition that he does not perceive the world as others do
This is cited from the article that 1776 Rebel posted. (A must read from a "limey" journalist's interview in 2006 of Mr. Nugent).
I will take this time to personally endorse Mr. Nugent for NRA president. As the above quote says he is a hard person do dislike (apparently some folks, here, don't). I believe he is fully capable of standing up for the 2A in whatever venue it needs to be done. I would liken what I have read here so far to the demonetization of Sarah Palin by other GOPers after the perennial loser Mr. McCain lost the election. Now is not the time for "nuance". There is a street fight and if you are preparing for a fair fight it will be neither.
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Well said Brosmetal, and humble pie to 1776rebel, I enjoy your rhetoric, but now is the time for boldness, Barack won on boldness and articulation, not on substance, but Ted has both.
Now, your feelings toward grass roots, and personal involvement. Spot on, and that's what we did in 1994, and should have been doing all along, a call to action is needed, and is necessary, lets once again go into the fiery pit and work toward our goal, " no more new gun laws ", call and write our leaders, organize our base and let the leaders know our positions, and how it will affect them next time a vote is called. Complacency is failure.
I want a winner, not an also ran.
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The result of RINO "moderate" McCain style conservatives gave us the result and political climate were in now. The Far-left stop at NOTHING to get their agenda. The anti-gun movement has George Soros funding, the media on their side, (the local news here in South FL. called the shooting in Liberty City the AK Ambush) last week;;,... all fuel to their fire to get bans, more regulations, etc,...
HR 1022, and HR 45, have been tried before and guess what? They KEEP TRYING!!!! RINO's and "Nice" conservatives get their a** handed to them everytime they play nice with these people. They don't rep. me, Heritage.org, has What would Reagan do?
Evidently, many "politicians", (not all), with a so called (R) by their name, haven't asked this question either.
I say what would Col. Jeff Cooper do?
"Remember that Jefferson told us that the Second Amendment would not be needed until they tried to abolish it. There are people who have that in mind right now. The personal ownership and usage of firearms is not a common aspect of today's culture worldwide. It is up to Americans - those who know what it means to be an American - to uphold the light of liberty in the face of those both here and elsewhere who would extinguish it. We see the hysterics who feel that the abolition of firearms would bring about major changes in the human psyche, and that crime would disappear. We cannot reason with these people because they are impervious to reason, but we can expose them to ridicule and frustrate their political clout. That is a job not just for the National Rifle Association, but for everyone. If you want to make a resolution for the coming century, resolve to do something in defense of liberty every day, and by liberty, of course, we mean true liberty - the right to keep and bear arms. Without that liberty all other liberties are meaningless."
Col. Jeff Cooper
The time for playing nice-nice with the anti gun crowd asking for provisions/crumbs on a gun bill to make us feel[/i better is OVER. If it takes someone like Ted N, so be it. Has nothing to do with young girls, or what happened 40 years ago.
If he can motivate more gun owners to become more vocal, united, and frankly, pissed off, as C. Heston did, the LIBS back down, just like 94.
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I am reminded by this discussion, and others have mentioned this in other threads before, that during the Revolutionary War, no more than 1/3 of the population of this country actively supported the Revolution, another third was pro-king, and the rest didn't care or didn't want to get involved. It is time to find out who our real friends are.
We are in a comparable time. As MB has noted more than once, we are at war, with nothing less than the Constitution and a way of American life at stake. If we lose, then the constitutional republic that has made us the most advanced, powerful country in the world will cease to exist, to be replaced by some tyrannical form of alternative government. We are already heading there, perhaps it is more accurate to think of this as the first battle of the end-game. If we lose, we lose everything.
We need the steadfast Washingtons, but we also need the pre-traitor Arnolds who disobeyed orders and all but single handedly won the Battle of Saratoga, or the Francis Marions or the John Paul Jones, the in-your-face combatants as well. Nugent falls into this latter category, as did Heston with his blatant "from my cold dead hands" speech.
This is no time to be weak (or perceived as weak), polite, genteel or deferential. That will only let us pat ourselves on the back that at least we didn't offend anyone - as they confiscate our weapons.
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WOW! This has become a hot thread......
So, here is my opinion (since you asked).
I think that there have been good points raised on both sides of this debate. Yes, Ted is brash and over the top. He is definitely a wild man and has a larger then life persona...... it is because of this that he might not be the best choice for NRA President. He would really have to be buttoned down and check his persona at the door, and I just dont know if he could or should do that.
Like was stated earlier, NRA president is just a figurehead role and essentially a poster boy for the organization. Ted may not be 100% right for that job....... or rather there may be others who are better for the role. Others like Tom Seleck, Rob Lathem, Jerry Miculek, Jim Scoutten, our own Michael Bane (I'm not kissing ass here), Julie Goloski (Gasp! A woman), Fred Thompson, Mike Huckabee, Bill Jordan, Cindy Garrison (Gasp! Another woman), Charlie Daniels or maybe a retired athlete
I do however LOVE the idea of Ted having a highly involved position within the NRA (or hell, even in govt). Ted is a brilliant man, and his views of where we are as a nation and where we need to be going are 100% on target. Like Bane said earlier, he is also a great debater and can successfully go toe-to-toe with any brilliant mind that the other side could throw at him. He is a man who should have an important role in what the NRA is setting their sights on and how they are going to achieve their goals. He is too valuable of an asset for our side to write him off like many in this thread have done. You may view him as someone who could be divisive, but you cant ignore the fact that he can rally the base. I think to be successful in this climate, that is definitely something that we need to do. The NRA is what it is because of membership numbers and money it can generate - the more we have of both the better.
I like the possibilities of him being NRA President, but I am not completely sold on it. Now Ted Nugent as President of the United States, THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!
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Additional thread for this subject:
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=4986.msg59247#msg59247
I am interested in seeing who else us gun folk think would be a viable poster child for the NRA...... I will put together a poll for us in a few days with 10 or so candidates to vote on.
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, Julie Goloski (Gasp! A woman)
Cindy Garrison (Gasp! Another woman),
The NRA has ALREADY had a woman President, Sandy Froman.
At this point in the gun rights debate we do not need some one who will attempt to counter the misstatements and out right lies of those who would undermine our Republic. What is needed is someone who will convince the forces of internationalist socialism that if they do not restore our rights, and abide by the Constitution we will drag them into the streets and hang them, ala Mussolini. In short we don't need someone who will "negotiare with them, we need someone who will scare the hell out of them.
If socialists want to live in a gun free nanny state that's fine, I understand Cuba is lovely this time of year.
If we fail to defeat this threat America will join Greece and Rome as just another failed attempt at popular rule. We will land on the scrap heap of failed nations like Somalia.
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The NRA has ALREADY had a woman President, Sandy Froman.
Also Marion Hammer (first woman NRA President 95-98)
By the way I have not been able to find on the web any listing of current Board of Directors members. Anyone have a link for that?
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I forgot about Marion Hammer. I was just on the NRA website and cannot find a list of the Current Board. :(
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Only place I found "a list" of the BOD is on the NYS AG site for charities. Latest filing seems to be from 2006:
http://bartlett.oag.state.ny.us/Char_Forms/show_details.jsp?id={7D1E160F-1672-409E-A026-DF666B74FE2B}
Update:
I also found the BOD on the Virginia state government site:
http://scc-internet.scc.virginia.gov/corporate/arfilings/corpfilings.asp?charternumber=F0538456
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http://www.nraam.org/voting/
Voting Membership Verification
All fully paid Lifetime members and Annual members with five or more consecutive years of membership, who have attained the age of 18 years and who are citizens of the United States of America, can pick up their voting credentials authorizing them to receive a ballot for the election of the 76th Board member. The credentials will also allow the member to vote on issues on the floor during the Annual Meeting of Members. Annual members, whose membership is verified, will also receive a ballot to vote for the 76th Director. When voting credentials are verified, members will be given appropriate voting information (with instructions). To be eligible to vote, a person must be a member of record on or before the 50th day (March 27, 2009 this year) prior to the Annual Meeting of Members.
THE DEADLINE FOR MEMBER OF RECORD IS MARCH 27, 2009.
Voting Membership Verification will be located in the Phoenix Convention Center, Friday, May 15, 8 am to 6 pm and Saturday, May 16, 8 am to 4 pm, or upon the conclusion of the Annual Meeting of Members.
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With all the talk of Ted being divisive, I have an analogy that should ring true. So is a bullet.
Let's shoot Ted at the Brady bunch.
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With all the talk of Ted being divisive, I have an analogy that should ring true. So is a bullet.
Let's shoot Ted at the Brady bunch.
I feel a new slogan coming on ...
Ted 'em all, and let God sort 'em out
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I just finished Ted's book "Ted White and Blue". I can't think of any one better to KICK ASS