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Title: Defining moment for Gillibrand
Post by: ericire12 on February 04, 2009, 09:14:38 AM
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/brady-campaign-calls-on-gillibrand-to-sponsor-gun-control-bill-2009-02-03.html

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Brady Campaign calls on Gillibrand to sponsor gun-control bill 

A gun-control group is calling on Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) to sponsor a gun-control bill to show that she’s evolving from being a favorite of the gun lobby to a true blue-state senator.

“She’s saying she realizes that she represents a statewide constituency,” said Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. “One way she could prove she has evolved is to push this issue.”

Helmke said his group is seeking a meeting with Gillibrand to ask her to support legislation to require background checks on gun sales at gun shows, commonly referred to by activists as “closing the gun-show loophole.” A message left with Gillibrand’s office was not returned Tuesday afternoon.

Gillibrand’s pro-gun views and “A-rating” from the National Rifle Association were a plus in holding a gun-toting New York district as a Democrat. But they drew protests as soon as Gov. David Paterson (D) selected her to replace now-Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Anti-gun groups and liberal bloggers protested the appointment. Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.) threatened to take Gillibrand on in a primary or to support a gun-control backer who would challenge the new senator.

McCarthy has a deep personal connection to the issue, having lost her husband to a shooting massacre in 1993.

But Gillibrand has maintained that she understands that her constituency changed considerably when she changed jobs.

Helmke initially called Gillibrand’s record “disappointing.” In a blog post Tuesday about changing views on gun issues, he suggested that Gillibrand could make up a lot of ground by co-sponsoring the gun-show legislation.

 In an interview, McCarthy said that simply sponsoring a bill would not satisfy her. She would want to see Gillibrand work with fellow senators to build the support needed to pass one.

“I think it would be terrific” for Gillibrand to sponsor gun-show background checks, McCarthy said. “There’s much more to do than introducing a bill. We’re a year away. A year is a long time.”

Purchases at gun stores from licensed dealers require a criminal background check. But some gun-show purchases are considered private sales, similar to a sale between neighbors or friends, and as such do not require a background check.

Gun-show background checks became an issue after the 1999 Columbine High School massacre, which left dead 12 students, one teacher and the two gunmen. Three of the four guns used were purchased at a gun show by one of the shooter’s friends, who said she wouldn’t have done so if she’d had to give her name.

Colorado passed a gun-show background-check bill in a statewide referendum by an overwhelming vote. But on the national level, the legislation stalled in a Republican-controlled Congress.
Title: Re: Defining moment for Gillibrand
Post by: alfsauve on July 25, 2009, 06:34:26 AM
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UH?  Yeah.


Notice that when the vote came on the concealed carry bill this week, Gillibrand voted NAY.  (Thune Amdt. No. 1618 )
 S. 1390 )

I guess that shows us where she really stands.  

HEY NRA.  Put her on the "F" list.

Title: Re: Defining moment for Gillibrand
Post by: twyacht on July 25, 2009, 06:43:07 AM
“One way she could prove she has evolved is to push this issue.”

Evolved from a free thinking, independent decision maker, to the threats and pressure from the Brady Bunch to assimilate with the anti's just like the rest of New York...

There used to be a popular bumper sticker here in S. Florida, it said:

You "picture of heart" NY so much,
Get on I-95 North!

Title: Re: Defining moment for Gillibrand
Post by: tombogan03884 on July 25, 2009, 07:01:28 AM
How about "full disclosure"

"McCarthy has a deep personal connection to the issue, having lost her ABUSIVE, ESTRANGED husband to a shooting massacre, in 1993. THE INSURANCE SETTLEMENT OF WHICH FINANCED HER CAMPAIGN FOR OFFICE.
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What the hell did any of you EXPECT from Gillibrand, Chucky Schumer was her backer for crying out loud.   ::)
Title: Re: Defining moment for Gillibrand
Post by: Hazcat on July 25, 2009, 08:52:48 AM
She had been 2A friendly before this but she wants to keep her job which is WAAAAAY more important that serving the people, so it was a 'go along to get along vote'.

A pox on them all!
Title: Re: Defining moment for Gillibrand
Post by: tombogan03884 on July 25, 2009, 08:59:55 AM
She had been 2A friendly before this but she wants to keep her job which is WAAAAAY more important that serving the people, so it was a 'go along to get along vote'.

A rope pox on them all!

Fixed it   ;D
Title: Re: Defining moment for Gillibrand
Post by: Harmony Hermit on July 26, 2009, 09:06:01 AM
Hey,,,Arlen Spector voted Nay also. And the NRA supported him in the last Senatorial Primary that he barely won.

Title: Re: Defining moment for Gillibrand
Post by: BAC on July 26, 2009, 09:24:20 AM
Hey,,,Arlen Spector voted Nay also. And the NRA supported him in the last Senatorial Primary that he barely won.



Benedict Arlen needs to go away.
Title: Re: Defining moment for Gillibrand
Post by: MikeBjerum on July 26, 2009, 09:54:50 AM
To steal from and twist Mr. Rogers ... Can you say Peer Pressure boys and girls?

I fully believe that word has been and continues to be sent to every Dem. office that "We are in charge, and we will continue to be in charge, so get on board or get ready to be replaced."  I believe that that same word is a carrot being dangled on a stick in front of many Republicans.

This will be a time of clarifying who is doing the work our founding fathers intended, and who is just playing politics and job security.
Title: Re: Defining moment for Gillibrand
Post by: Pathfinder on July 26, 2009, 05:34:03 PM
To steal from and twist Mr. Rogers ... Can you say Peer Pressure boys and girls?

I fully believe that word has been and continues to be sent to every Dem. office that "We are in charge, and we will continue to be in charge, so get on board or get ready to be replaced."  I believe that that same word is a carrot being dangled on a stick in front of many Republicans.

This will be a time of clarifying who is doing the work our founding fathers intended, and who is just playing politics and job security.

As noted in another thread, if the 2010 election is fixed, if AKORN spends some of that money and buys elections for candidates that need to be gone, I think we will see the final click of the heater knob in some areas. I don't want that, I don't think anyone with a rational mind wants that, but when you have demonstrated that people no longer matter except in a symbolic way, that even democracy is dead in this country (republicanism having been sold to the highest bidder long ago), and all is left is the mob being manipulated by the oligarchy, then, yeah, one last CLICK!