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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: Teresa Heilevang on February 14, 2009, 11:24:21 AM
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I know Ken Onion personally. He is one of the best friends of a friend of mine..
Ken spoke up about HB 126 on KHON2 news yesterday.
A bill aimed at prohibiting manufacturing, selling or possessing a pocket knife is drawing criticism across the country.
The public's reaction has also forced a Hawaii lawmaker to re-evalute a policy he's maintained for 22 years.
Here's the clip..
http://www.khon2.com/home/ticker/39409572.html
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I have a Ken Onion-designed Kershaw, #1550. Black kydex and black blade, no serrations, great knife. I carry it every day and keep it sharp! Bought the very same knife for my son, and plan on getting 2 more, one with serrations. You never know when they may come in handy . . . .
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Liberals live by the trial balloon. They sit around their taxpayer supplied offices trying to dream up one ignorant idea after another, and every now and then they float a trial balloon, to see how the public will receive it. If it's ignored, they will try to pass it, but if someone speaks loudly and in public, they will lie and say someone suggested it to that particular lawmaker, and they would never think of passing such a thing.
When you realize that 99.0% of all politicians are bold face serial prevaricators, then this kind of thing isn't difficult to comprehend. ;D
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Check out Doug Ritter's site for more info on the Hawaii bill.
http://www.kniferights.org/
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This was on the news the other day. If this guy didn't have a knife, the girl might be dead. I clip my Cold Steel on my pocket every day, like grabbing my keys. Knives are just tools, and are probably the most useful tools that man has ever invented. I've never cut anyone, and while I could use it to do so, I do use it all the time for simple tasks at home and work.
I forgot one day and was asked to put it in my car when I went into Disneyland. No big deal, but what was I going to do with a little knife.
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I forgot one day and was asked to put it in my car when I went into Disneyland. No big deal, but what was I going to do with a little knife.
If necessary...Defend yourself, your Wife, and your children.
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Didn't England do this? I think Australia is working on it also if they haven't passed it already.
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The bafoonary that exists in our self proclaimed leaders.
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Politics At Its Worst!
He says he did this because his people were asking for it even though he would vote against it ??? At what point does he show maturity and professionalism and not waste the time and money of "junk" legislation? I question the integrity of a politician that would introduce one piece of legislation just to keep his constituents happy and then vote against it. Is it just me, or is he trying to have his cake and eat it too. So far he has alienated a group for bringing this legislation up, and soon he will alienate another group by voting against it (if it ever gets its day on the floor) ... not to mention his credibility with the rest in Washington DC for wasting their time with this move.
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Didn't England do this? I think Australia is working on it also if they haven't passed it already.
they are working on it ::)
In Australia is that you must have a legitimate reason for carrying one - which includes needing it for work but NOT for self defence. Now, I'd argue that a pocket knife is useful for most jobs, but that's another story - if a cop decided you look dodgy the onus would be on you to prove your legitimate reason - I don't know if "I open my mail with it" would be good enough - there is nothing in the regulations about how you must use the knife at work for it to be acceptable.
Sadly, the best advice is "don't carry anything that looks mean!" (so the 3" length rule is worth sticking to, even though there is no mention of length in the regulations) - and don't be caught in the wrong place at the wrong time!
Flick knives, Balisongs, and Daggers, which are banned everywhere and considered the spawn of Satan are, in all honesty, only banned because the bad guys use them in movies! They are no more dangerous or sinister than any other knife - but it's the perception.
You CAN possess the above 'illegal blades' if you have a permit for the importation from your States Police Commissioner or State's Firearms Registry who administer these permits.
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I've got a few of kens knifes...
When it comes down too it, there is not a day goes by that I don't use my pocket knife for something. Opening something, pulling out a splinter... etc. A knife is one of the most useful tools around.
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PhilW you mean the Crocodile Dundee stuff is BS? Now you ruined my day.....
(http://bestuff.com/images/images_of_stuff/64x64crop/crocodile-dundees-knife-101033.jpg?1194137790)
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This was on the news the other day. If this guy didn't have a knife, the girl might be dead. I clip my Cold Steel on my pocket every day, like grabbing my keys. Knives are just tools, and are probably the most useful tools that man has ever invented. I've never cut anyone, and while I could use it to do so, I do use it all the time for simple tasks at home and work.
I forgot one day and was asked to put it in my car when I went into Disneyland. No big deal, but what was I going to do with a little knife.
I carry a Cold Steel Tanto (folding with a polymer handle for weight) and it's like my third hand. I instinctively reach for it for prying, cutting, reaching something in a crack....on and on.
One time I had one of those 5in. SpyderCo serrated thumb-holes, clipped to my back pocket when I went to court with a friend. One of the deputies spotted it and gave me a hard time as I was leaving, but he was a motor cop and we had a common interest in Beemers so he let me go with a warning.....apparently even back then (80's) it was illegal to carry a pocket knife into traffic court.
Imo, the damage has already been regarding our right to have a pocket knife. I always found the clip on my pants to be a conversation starter with people who have similar interests, and I'm reluctant to carry anything these days that singles me out from the crowd. :(
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PhilW you mean the Crocodile Dundee stuff is BS? Now you ruined my day.....
(http://bestuff.com/images/images_of_stuff/64x64crop/crocodile-dundees-knife-101033.jpg?1194137790)
hehe you can get large knives with out any issues as long as you have a legitimate use for it
like a Pig Sticker or the That's not a Knife This (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/CROCODILE-DUNDEE-Hunting-Knife-LARGE-RRP-145_W0QQitemZ300293342883QQihZ020QQcategoryZ7306QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262) is a knife ;) for hunting / fishing carrying one down the street for some reason is not a legitimate use ::)
once the 3 new ones arrive I will get a Pick for you of my small collection ;D I have just started getting some knives
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hehe you can get large knives with out any issues as long as you have a legitimate use for it
like a Pig Sticker or the That's not a Knife This (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/CROCODILE-DUNDEE-Hunting-Knife-LARGE-RRP-145_W0QQitemZ300293342883QQihZ020QQcategoryZ7306QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262) is a knife ;) for hunting / fishing carrying one down the street for some reason is not a legitimate use ::)
once the 3 new ones arrive I will get a Pick for you of my small collection ;D I have just started getting some knives
Knives are like guns, you can never have to many ;D
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eBay is jumping on the band wagon...banning knife sales on eBay in Europe...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7879701.stm
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Let me ask ya'll this. The 2nd amendment gives us the right to KEEP and BEAR arms, not guns specifically but arms, as in weapon used to protect yourself. I'm throwing knives in with arms here.
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Let me ask ya'll this. The 2nd amendment gives us the right to KEEP and BEAR arms, not guns specifically but arms, as in weapon used to protect yourself. I'm throwing knives in with arms here.
Yes, and bows, spears and swords.
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My personal favorite is a CUDGEL....
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/be/Club.jpg/300px-Club.jpg)
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I once worked for a Fortune 500 company, Snap-on Tools, that banned pocket knives of any type in their facilities. Now, the real genius of this is that each plant had its own "tool crib" where you could go to get what you needed to do your job. In these tool cribs, available free to any employee, were the same replaceable razor utility knives that were used on 9/11. Apparently, we weren't trustworthy enough to carry a Case or Old Timer, or whatever we had paid for...but Snap-on was willing to pay for and give us the weapons used to carry out the worst attack on US soil since WWII.
Oh yes, the Snap-on catalog also carries knives and utility knives for purchase.
I no longer work there. Darn.