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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: alfsauve on February 16, 2009, 08:52:45 PM
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Walter Williams has one answer. It is because WE, THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, don't respect the constitution:
Williams wrote, "By bringing up the idea of constitutional restraints on Washington , Dr. Higgs is whistling Dixie. Americans have long ago abandoned respect for the constitutional limits placed on the federal government. Our elected representatives represent that disrespect."
Question: How do we, who do respect the constitution, change the general attitude of the rest of the population?
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Every year I buy twenty or so copies of the pocket size U.S. Constitution and the Declaration of Independence from the Government Printing Office. They cost about two bucks a copy and I always have one in my desk. On occasion, if someone is interested, I'll give them a copy. Hopefully they will learn, understand and see the brilliance of the document.
Once in a while people look at me as if I'm crazy but I attribute that attitude to the part of the country I live in. I live 50 miles from the birthplace of independence and most locals can't remember or were never taught the history of the area.
I know we all have a common interest here but it's about so much more than the 2nd Amendment.
http://bookstore.gpo.gov/actions/GetPublication.do?stocknumber=052-071-01479-9
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Education is the only option that has a chance at long term succes.
Think about this for a a few mins before you respond.
Can you go thru the bill of rights and tell what rights are given by each of the 10 amendments?
how many people do you know that can do the same?
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Why does the Federal Government overstep the constraints of the Constitution?
Obama: "Why not?"
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Obama: "Why not?"
yeah the GOP never did that... never ::)
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Here in Texas it is tough, most over 40 understand, youngun's don't, but the main body here are illegal and legal immigrants from south of the border, they were raised being ruled, and with a corrupt government, law enforcement etc..., they don't want to rock the boat, just be, and survive, be small and off the radar. They make up 40% of my neighborhood. Mostly good hardworking but illegal people who get to vote. They have conservative values, but will give that up to get on the government TIT. My neighbor is a hard working stone worker, has his own business, and has 3 vehicles, Suv's and Cadillacs, 2003 or newer and has remodeled his home, completely, His business is stone working for the interior of homes. No magnetic signs on his vehicles, no business cards, all word of mouth, has several sweet children, but He is here illegally. He votes democrat, and his family does too. He is against abortion, believes in religious freedom, but ain't gonna rock the boat, or bring attention to himself.
Now what to do, Try to bring back respect and belief in the constitution, too many of our young, especially 30 and under, do not believe in freedom, they don't understand it and take it for granted, many just want marijuana legalized and that is their motivation, but don't vote. ( thankfully ) they won't open their eyes until things start to disappear they never even considered or practiced. I have a smart young man who works for me, who says " I don't understand this stuff, and just let you guys vote and get it sorted out " . My respect started with my schooling and history teachers, and I had great ones, the SCHOOL SYSTEM IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM, just like congress and the senate, We need to throw the bums out, and get back to teaching fundamental United States history, including the constitution, what it means, and how not to let it be violated. The only people who stand up, are the libs when they get violated, We need to act just like them.
It is late and I'm ranting, but you get the idea, if we threw the bums out today, it would not make an effect for 12 years as new graduates emerge, and then what to do about the colleges, send your kids to conservative colleges and starve the liberal colleges, I recommend here in Texas, Texas A&M.
This is a huge subject with no pat answers, and welcome conjecture.
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the SCHOOL SYSTEM IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM, quoted from m25operator
Bingo! My son does not go to the govt. school, no how no way!
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Walter Williams has one answer. It is because WE, THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, don't respect the constitution:
Williams wrote, "By bringing up the idea of constitutional restraints on Washington , Dr. Higgs is whistling Dixie. Americans have long ago abandoned respect for the constitutional limits placed on the federal government. Our elected representatives represent that disrespect."
Question: How do we, who do respect the constitution, change the general attitude of the rest of the population?
One step is for we the people to enforce this: Section 10. No state shall enter into any treaty, alliance, or confederation; grant letters of marque and reprisal; coin money; emit bills of credit; make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts; pass any bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law impairing the obligation of contracts, or grant any title of nobility.
Notice: No state shall,,, make anything but gold or silver coin a tender in payment of debts...
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Ideology trumps the Constitution - just look at the Supreme Court. They should be the guardians of the Constitution but, alas, they don't either.
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When ever I write my Fed Congressman and Senators the last line usually refers to our constitution and their sworn support of it.
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Its time for all of us to start writing our state reps and press them to to pass sovereignty legislation just like New Hampshire did and invoke what is written into the Constitution. Washington is not going to listen to us. Time to invoke the states right to dissolve the federal government and do a reboot.
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Education is the only option that has a chance at long term succes.
Think about this for a a few mins before you respond.
Can you go thru the bill of rights and tell what rights are given by each of the 10 amendments?
how many people do you know that can do the same?
No rights are "given" by the Bill Of Rights, they merely restate GOD-GIVEN rights!!
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Why does the Federal Govt. overstep the Constitutional constraints ?
Because they are like shrubs , unless they are trimmed they will grow to fill all available space.
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Why does the Federal Govt. overstep the Constitutional constraints ?
Because they are like shrubs , unless they are trimmed they will grow to fill all available space.
Just love that one .
+10
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Why does the Federal Govt. overstep the Constitutional constraints ?
Because they are like shrubs , unless they are trimmed they will grow to fill all available space.
shrubs,weeds...trim them or pull them OUT!!
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Part of the problem with the educational system is that the teachers want to be too friendly with the students.
When I was in school, I got along with most all of my teachers, but there was a line. They took an authoritative position and we all respected it. They were there to teach and we were there to learn. Now days teachers want to molly-coddle the kids and be buddy-buddy with all of them and to heck with the 'teaching' part.
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Ideology trumps the Constitution - just look at the Supreme Court. They should be the guardians of the Constitution but, alas, they don't either.
7 of the 9 supreme court judges presently on the court were nominated by Republican presidents.
Is there a lesson here?
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7 of the 9 supreme court judges presently on the court were nominated by Republican presidents.
Is there a lesson here?
Yes. They all suck!
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Yes. They all suck!
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Lawyers, heaping piles of camel dung.....big steaming piles!
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They overstep the constraints of our Constitution because WE let them. They are similiar to kids when they push the envelope trying to see what they can and can't do, and when WE don't respond they see what else they can get away.
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They overstep the constraints of our Constitution because WE let them. They are similiar to kids when they push the envelope trying to see what they can and can't do, and when WE don't respond they see what else they can get away.
EXACTLY !
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Is it time to enforce the Declaration of Independence and throw them ALL out of office for the bufoonery they propagate ???
It is amazing how politicians talk prior to getting elected and what they do when they get in office. Most adopt the elitist attitude such as Reed, Pelosi, Kennedy, Kerry, "O"no and many more that place themselves on a pedistal thinking they are better than you and I.
The second Amendment is there for when they try to take it.