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Title: greatest fear factor?
Post by: bigkahuna07 on February 21, 2009, 06:07:59 PM
What gun would you fear the most on a battlefield is a question that many people possibly ask themselves when using, looking at, or buying guns along with "is this weapon fearsome?" don't deny it we've all asked ourselves this question at some point or another even those people who have no military experience, so I ask everyone here which gun would you fear? Personally I would fear a sniper on the battlefield for the simple fact that if you know there is a sniper then he has probably by that time injured you or an ally and you probably don't know where he is shooting from, now that can be fearsome.
Title: Re: greatest fear factor?
Post by: PegLeg45 on February 21, 2009, 06:32:57 PM
not to be a 'smart-ass' or anything....but my biggest fear would be ANY gun that was pointed in my general direction for the purposes of ill will.

Now, on to what you are asking, I would agree that the sniper would generally be biggest morale killer and fear monger in my opinion.

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Title: Re: greatest fear factor?
Post by: m25operator on February 21, 2009, 07:21:21 PM
not to be a 'smart-ass' or anything....but my biggest fear would be ANY gun that was pointed in my general direction for the purposes of ill will.

Now, on to what you are asking, I would agree that the sniper would generally be biggest morale killer and fear monger in my opinion.

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I agree, that's why I train to be one. 1 on 1 sucks, I'm too old and tired, cheating is acceptable in combat, but I can be effective from afar.

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Title: Re: greatest fear factor?
Post by: TAB on February 21, 2009, 07:25:50 PM
M2   Not many places you can hide from it.
Title: Re: greatest fear factor?
Post by: tombogan03884 on February 21, 2009, 07:33:56 PM
Mortars and artillery. you are helpless. Unable to strike back.
Title: Re: greatest fear factor?
Post by: ericire12 on February 21, 2009, 07:53:17 PM
I would not fear the gun as much as the bullets wizzing by my head.



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Title: Re: greatest fear factor?
Post by: m25operator on February 21, 2009, 08:20:15 PM
Artillery is a bitch, as well as fragmentation devices and mines, indescriminate attack, is the worst, but hopefully you dug a foxhole, a sniper is gonna wait for YOU  to poke your head up. I reconsider my remark. I think in combat the Improvised explosive devices, would get my greatest attention, although it's hard to be good at finding them and exposing them. So attention be damned, it might get you anyway.
Title: Re: greatest fear factor?
Post by: Rob10ring on February 21, 2009, 08:50:38 PM
I agree, that's why I train to be one. 1 on 1 sucks, I'm too old and tired, cheating is acceptable in combat, but I can be effective from afar.

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Title: Re: greatest fear factor?
Post by: Ksail101 on February 21, 2009, 10:20:59 PM
The greatest equalizer of men on the battlefield, is fear itself.
Title: Re: greatest fear factor?
Post by: Big Frank on February 22, 2009, 10:32:30 PM
I think machineguns have killed more people on battlefields than any other guns, so they're scary. Friendly fire from a bunch of n00bs would be scary too. Any gun pointed at me is scary.
Title: Re: greatest fear factor?
Post by: tombogan03884 on February 23, 2009, 12:39:46 PM
I think machineguns have killed more people on battlefields than any other guns, so they're scary. Friendly fire from a bunch of n00bs would be scary too. Any gun pointed at me is scary.

Statisticly, even in WWI the largest killer on the battle field has been artillery and mines/boobytraps/IED's
Title: Re: greatest fear factor?
Post by: Big Frank on February 23, 2009, 02:20:32 PM
Thanks Tom. I should have remembered high-angle hell was the big killer, and I was even thinking I bet Tom knows. But I couldn't remember if it was artillery or machine guns so I flipped a coin. It came up wrong.

Snipers are a lot less deadly as far as number of people killed and they wouldn't likely shoot someone as unimportant as me. A REMF (Rear Echelon MoFo) with like me wouldn't be on the front lines anyway.  ;D
Title: Re: greatest fear factor?
Post by: Texas_Bryan on February 23, 2009, 02:32:31 PM
Air Support...you make contact with the enemy on the ground, and if they have the ability, they'll call it in rather than even risk further engagement.  And depending on who it is there is no escape.  In specific Spookys and Specters.
Title: Re: greatest fear factor?
Post by: Big Frank on February 23, 2009, 02:41:07 PM
I never even thought about gunships. During the Cold War we were facing helicopter gunships like the Hind-D too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hind_D There was a cartoon in SoF magazine that showed a Russian Hind-D crew in Afghanistan.
The pilot asked the gunner "How can you shoot wonen and children like that?" His answer was, "You don't lead them as much."
Title: Re: greatest fear factor?
Post by: Texas_Bryan on February 23, 2009, 02:48:28 PM
There was a cartoon in SoF magazine that showed a Russian Hind-D crew in Afghanistan.
The pilot asked the gunner "How can you shoot wonen and children like that?" His answer was, "You don't lead them as much."

Came from Full Metal Jacket.  Also "Anyone who runs is V.C.  Any one who don't run is a smart V.C."
Title: Re: greatest fear factor?
Post by: bigkahuna07 on February 24, 2009, 11:22:41 AM
from the stories that I've heard the hind is one of the most fearsome vehicles to face on the field especially if you don't have the means to deal with it.
Title: Re: greatest fear factor?
Post by: tombogan03884 on February 24, 2009, 11:26:32 AM
Came from Full Metal Jacket.  Also "Anyone who runs is V.C.  Any one who don't run is a smart V.C."

Your chronology is backwards.
Title: Re: greatest fear factor?
Post by: Big Frank on February 25, 2009, 01:51:35 AM
You're right again Tom. So was I this time.  :)  I saw that cartoon while I was still in the army but that movie didn't come out until a couple years after I got out.