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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: twyacht on February 28, 2009, 02:24:30 PM
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How dare us Americans use our Quilted Northern, and Charmin.... It's worse on the environment than driving those evil Hummer's. :P
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/feb/26/toilet-roll-america
American taste for soft toilet roll 'worse than driving Hummers'
Extra-soft, quilted and multi-ply toilet roll made from virgin forest causes more damage than gas-guzzlers, fast food or McMansions, say campaigners
* Suzanne Goldenberg, US environment correspondent
* guardian.co.uk, Thursday 26 February 2009 18.29 GMT
* Article history
A toilet roll in a public toilet
The tenderness of the delicate American buttock is causing more environmental devastation than the country's love of gas-guzzling cars, fast food or McMansions, according to green campaigners. At fault, they say, is the US public's insistence on extra-soft, quilted and multi-ply products when they use the bathroom.
"This is a product that we use for less than three seconds and the ecological consequences of manufacturing it from trees is enormous," said Allen Hershkowitz, a senior scientist at the Natural Resources Defence Council.
"Future generations are going to look at the way we make toilet paper as one of the greatest excesses of our age. Making toilet paper from virgin wood is a lot worse than driving Hummers in terms of global warming pollution." Making toilet paper has a significant impact because of chemicals used in pulp manufacture and cutting down forests.
A campaign by Greenpeace seeks to raise consciousness among Americans about the environmental costs of their toilet habits and counter an aggressive new push by the paper industry giants to market so-called luxury brands.
More than 98% of the toilet roll sold in America comes from virgin forests, said Hershkowitz. In Europe and Latin America, up to 40% of toilet paper comes from recycled products. Greenpeace this week launched a cut-out-and-keep ecological ranking of toilet paper products.
Look out.. BHO will have to raise the luxury TP tax to offset the damage to the forests. ::)
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I can come up with some ways that they could help me not need toilet paper...
They could kiss my butt at the same time too. ;)
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I wander what Greenpeace would think if they knew I carried an unlicensed STIHL in my pickup on weekends. :o
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Greenpeace Charmin wants us to "Wipe" away our Charmin Greenpeace.
There, fixed it. :P
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I'm gad the French blew up those a$$holes. ;D But I also think it's a riot that their incompetence got them caught ;D
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Environmentalist "new-speak" fascinates me.
I did the grocery shopping today and was looking at chicken when an employee ask me if I were interested in organic chicken. I told me I surely didn't want to eat an in-organic one.
"Virgin trees"? [STOP: Avoid the obvious sexual innuendos, here.] How does one even find "used" trees? There's used paper and used lumber, but "used" trees? There are re-cycled products but they don't come from "used" trees.
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They would b!tch if we wiped our a$$e$ with old pine cones. (maybe THOSE are used trees ? )
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I could quit using toilet paper altogether and Greenpeace can kiss my crusty a$$.
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you could always use Real Blokes Dunny Paper
also Chuck Norris uses this type of Bog Roll. ( a must watch Vid ;) )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_HcWZKJffI
or this one
(http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2009/2/11/633699804389256160-chucknorristoiletpaper.jpg)
there is also this we can send Brownpeace
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5-HkzRo13QY/SSl6BiwU6qI/AAAAAAAAAdA/POFW48kB-X4/s400/This+Toilet+Paper+Feels+A+Bit+Rough.jpg)
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I guess it's back to the old 'John Wayne' toilet paper.....'Rough, tough, and don't take sh*t off of anybody"....... ;D ;D
Really piss 'em off.....start buying Huggies Baby wipes instead of toilet paper............ ;D
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You guys beat me to all the good comebacks. But, they'll get my 2ply, extra strong Charmin from my cold dead hands.
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Or we could retrograde back to the old Sears & Roebuck catalog............OR......ye olde corn cobs......... :o
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lets think about this for a second.
All of the paper produced in the USA gets thier pulp from 3 places:
1 recycled
2 trees planted strickly for the paper market
3 byproducts from the lumber industry.
Paper production is very green compared to most of the other industrys.
We are not cutting down forest to make paper, we are cutting down plantations.
Can you tell I do alot of work for a very large printer?
I've talked with the paper rep many times,( they not only sell paper, they also collect it for recycling) he has told me several times that recycling paper actually does more harm to the enviroment then harvisting trees does. Has to do with the collection of the paper and the chemicals/energy needed to recycle the paper into plup.
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Has to do with the collection of the paper and the chemicals/energy needed to recycle the paper into plup.
The nasty chemicals in recycled paper are of course poisonous, just what you need for your microwave popcorn.
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Hey, Greenpeace? Do you know the two reasons we shake hands with our right hands? It goes back to Roman times, one reason was to show your weapon hand was empty.
The other reason was because the left hand was customarily used in lieu of virgin trees, you sloped-foerheaded flint-chippers!
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Hey, Greenpeace? Do you know the two reasons we shake hands with our right hands? It goes back to Roman times, one reason was to show your weapon hand was empty.
The other reason was because the left hand was customarily used in lieu of virgin trees, you sloped-foerheaded flint-chippers!
lucky I am left handed, heheh will have to tell the greenies that one ;)
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Hey, Greenpeace? Do you know the two reasons we shake hands with our right hands? It goes back to Roman times, one reason was to show your weapon hand was empty.
The other reason was because the left hand was customarily used in lieu of virgin trees, you sloped-foerheaded flint-chippers!
It's STILL that way in the Arab world.
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The toilet paper companies probably do what other paper companies do. For every single tree they cut down to make coffee filters, Melitta plants FOUR more trees. How many trees does Greenpeace plant compared to that?
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If you get on the brady bunch mailing list they'll send you some toilet paper every so often. I used to get them with postage paid return envelopes but was always reluctant to make some really good use of them. Didn't want to get in trouble with the EPA.
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The toilet paper companies probably do what other paper companies do. For every single tree they cut down to make coffee filters, Melitta plants FOUR more trees. How many trees does Greenpeace plant compared to that?
Does sticking their heads up their asses count?
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Somebody tell Greenpeace...
generic toilet paper is for cheap a$$holes. ;D
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How dare us Americans use our Quilted Northern, and Charmin.... It's worse on the environment than driving those evil Hummer's. :P
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/feb/26/toilet-roll-america
American taste for soft toilet roll 'worse than driving Hummers'
Extra-soft, quilted and multi-ply toilet roll made from virgin forest causes more damage than gas-guzzlers, fast food or McMansions, say campaigners
* Suzanne Goldenberg, US environment correspondent
* guardian.co.uk, Thursday 26 February 2009 18.29 GMT
* Article history
A toilet roll in a public toilet
The tenderness of the delicate American buttock is causing more environmental devastation than the country's love of gas-guzzling cars, fast food or McMansions, according to green campaigners. At fault, they say, is the US public's insistence on extra-soft, quilted and multi-ply products when they use the bathroom.
"This is a product that we use for less than three seconds and the ecological consequences of manufacturing it from trees is enormous," said Allen Hershkowitz, a senior scientist at the Natural Resources Defence Council.
"Future generations are going to look at the way we make toilet paper as one of the greatest excesses of our age. Making toilet paper from virgin wood is a lot worse than driving Hummers in terms of global warming pollution." Making toilet paper has a significant impact because of chemicals used in pulp manufacture and cutting down forests.
A campaign by Greenpeace seeks to raise consciousness among Americans about the environmental costs of their toilet habits and counter an aggressive new push by the paper industry giants to market so-called luxury brands.
More than 98% of the toilet roll sold in America comes from virgin forests, said Hershkowitz. In Europe and Latin America, up to 40% of toilet paper comes from recycled products. Greenpeace this week launched a cut-out-and-keep ecological ranking of toilet paper products.
Look out.. BHO will have to raise the luxury TP tax to offset the damage to the forests. ::)
So what do the Brits use to wipe their arses? Maybe that's why their country is turning to S#!T.
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I remember back in the late 60's/early 70's, folks where criticized for using toilet paper in Designer Colors. Claim was that all that dye was polluting our waterways just so vain folks could match their bathroom decor.
Well, the masses responded and the sale of colored TP dwindled.
However, it was found that the bleach used in making TP white did more damage than the dye.
I didn't see any push to go to "natural" TP. Perhaps it is not possible to make the product that way.
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I remember back in the late 60's/early 70's, folks where criticized for using toilet paper in Designer Colors. Claim was that all that dye was polluting our waterways just so vain folks could match their bathroom decor.
Well, the masses responded and the sale of colored TP dwindled.
However, it was found that the bleach used in making TP white did more damage than the dye.
I didn't see any push to go to "natural" TP. Perhaps it is not possible to make the product that way.
Corn cobs.
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I remember back in the late 60's/early 70's, folks where criticized for using toilet paper in Designer Colors. Claim was that all that dye was polluting our waterways just so vain folks could match their bathroom decor.
Well, the masses responded and the sale of colored TP dwindled.
However, it was found that the bleach used in making TP white did more damage than the dye.
I didn't see any push to go to "natural" TP. Perhaps it is not possible to make the product that way.
I don't know if colored TP was polluting waterways, but I do know that the dyes killed the bacteria in septic systems , leading to clogs and over flows. Not using colored TP is why backed up septic tanks are so much rarer these days even with older systems.