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Title: UPDATE:CCW Setting off alarms in stores???
Post by: Ksail101 on March 14, 2009, 03:30:31 PM
About 4 months ago this has started happening to me. Around X-mass time. About one out of three stores I walk into or out off I set off the Security alarms. Does this happen to anyone else? I dont like it cause it draws attention to me. I have searched my Holster and everything I carry a thousand times to see if there is something, maybe a tag or something that is causing this and I cant find anything.

I was thinking it was maybe a certain kind cause it doesnt happen at every store that has those things by the doors.

Any idea how to stop this????
Title: Re: CCW Setting off alarms in stores???
Post by: Rob10ring on March 14, 2009, 03:40:50 PM
We had this problem when one of our daughters would wear certain items from Old Navy. We couldn't go into a Target, without her setting the alarms off. It turned out that the clothing companies had begun sewing the security tags into the clothing and the buyer is supposed to cut them out. They look like little, square, cloth tags and are sometimes labeled wit instructions to cut them out. Maybe this is old new, but still easily overlooked.
Title: Re: CCW Setting off alarms in stores???
Post by: twyacht on March 14, 2009, 03:54:00 PM
Hey Ksail, Unless there is some "secret" security tag in your GQ fashion ;), does it happen with coats or jackets? Old clothes or the newer stuff?

Could be those secret gov't microchips to track us. OR the aliens are preparing a return to Earth and the "marked" individuals will be recruited for their bidding. ::)

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/looksstupid.jpg)

I'm getting more foil right now,... :P ;D

Hope your well Ksail,

Tom W.
Title: Re: CCW Setting off alarms in stores???
Post by: bryand71 on March 14, 2009, 04:02:17 PM
RFID?   ???
Title: Re: CCW Setting off alarms in stores???
Post by: Ksail101 on March 14, 2009, 04:03:27 PM
I got a Maxpedition Jumbo CCW Carry bag that I have checked re-checked and checked again for a sec tag but none to be found. I guess next time I go into a store that it goes off in I will ask to use their de-magnatizer.

Also I thought for a while it was the Hornady Taps I was using cause it started happening as soon as I started carrying those in my glock. I carry one mag in the gun and two spares so my round count 40. Two mags of 13 and one 13 plus one in the chamber in case you all were wondering how I get to 40.
Title: Re: CCW Setting off alarms in stores???
Post by: 1911 Junkie on March 14, 2009, 04:12:39 PM
I have a friend in loss prevention.  His explanation on how a lot of those alarms work is that there is an
antenna (just a coil of wire) that will set the alarms off when passed between the two towers.
He said something as simple as a paper clip in someones purse can fool the system into going off.
Look for something like that or maybe even your compressed mag springs are doing it.
Title: Re: CCW Setting off alarms in stores???
Post by: CZShooter on March 14, 2009, 04:17:31 PM
We had this problem when one of our daughters would wear certain items from Old Navy. We couldn't go into a Target, without her setting the alarms off. It turned out that the clothing companies had begun sewing the security tags into the clothing and the buyer is supposed to cut them out. They look like little, square, cloth tags and are sometimes labeled wit instructions to cut them out. Maybe this is old new, but still easily overlooked.

Had the same thing happen to me. Bought a Columbia 3-in-1 parka at Kohl's...kept tripping the security do-dads at Target. Finally, the SG at target asked if I'd bought anything from Old Navy. I explained I had just bought a new coat from Kohl's and they told me what to look for and sure enough. It was sewn into the outter shell and I didn't find it until I removed the inner liner.
Title: Re: CCW Setting off alarms in stores???
Post by: ericire12 on March 14, 2009, 04:51:41 PM
Oh, you have one of those "SPECIAL" Glocks.....

They are under recall right now, and you should not carry it until it has had the "upgrade". Go out and immediately get yourself a cardboard box and mail it to me ASAP........ You might not ever get it back, but I will send you a free Glock hat for your trouble.
Title: Re: CCW Setting off alarms in stores???
Post by: Condition 1 on March 14, 2009, 06:43:06 PM
Good one, but you can have the Glocks! ;D
Title: Re: CCW Setting off alarms in stores???
Post by: Green Mountain Gringo on March 14, 2009, 11:05:50 PM
I work for a company that has those alarms at the doors.  They work like Junkie and bryand said. RFID is Radio Frequency Identification.

The tags are armed by default and need to be de-armed by a device at the checkout, usually a unit under the scanner or by removing the RFID tag altogher. 

Like Junkie said a coil of metal can imitate the RFID tag and set off the alarm.

It could be that the checkout clerk never deactivated the tag.......   or?

Could it be a RECOIL spring setting things off?
Title: Re: CCW Setting off alarms in stores???
Post by: Hazcat on March 14, 2009, 11:44:49 PM
RFID?   ???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RFID
Title: Re: CCW Setting off alarms in stores???
Post by: bryand71 on March 15, 2009, 01:47:27 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RFID

Sorry for the confusion, I know what it is, I was indicating that maybe there was an RFID device in his clothing.
Title: Re: CCW Setting off alarms in stores???
Post by: tt11758 on March 17, 2009, 03:39:56 PM
It's probably a POS detector that your Glock is setting off.   ;D
Title: Re: CCW Setting off alarms in stores???
Post by: Hazcat on March 17, 2009, 03:41:41 PM
It's probably a POS detector that your Glock is setting off.   ;D

OOOOOH!  THAT'S gonna leave a mark!  (but I LIKE it ;D )
Title: Re: CCW Setting off alarms in stores???
Post by: ericire12 on March 17, 2009, 06:22:44 PM
It's probably a POS detector that your Glock is setting off.   ;D

Now thats funny right there
Title: Re: CCW Setting off alarms in stores???
Post by: Ksail101 on March 26, 2009, 05:32:57 PM
Update: So I bought a bunch of mags around xmas time for my Glock and after setting the alarm off at Borders today and finally had had enough and tore through everything. I have had a sticker on one of the Mags that said the price on it. I just kept it on as I number my mags and it was a good spot to write on. The thing is like a metal sticker. So I am sure I have found the RIMFPK-49'er thing. This little son of a bitch has caused me more grief than I can even describe. Man almost every store I have walked into since December I have set off the alarms. Thank god this over.

I wonder about all the stores alarms I didnt set off, does this mean I can steal from them and not get caught?
Title: Re: UPDATE:CCW Setting off alarms in stores???
Post by: Timothy on March 26, 2009, 05:53:20 PM
Carefull...

Shoplifting becomes armed robbery very easily.... ;)
Title: Re: UPDATE:CCW Setting off alarms in stores???
Post by: Luv2Shoot on March 26, 2009, 09:32:32 PM
Ah man I was hoping for an alien implant story.  ;D
Title: Re: UPDATE:CCW Setting off alarms in stores???
Post by: 1911 Junkie on March 26, 2009, 09:55:17 PM
I wonder about all the stores alarms I didnt set off, does this mean I can steal from them and not get caught?

A lot of stores have fake towers by the doors, just a visual deterant but not functional.
Title: Re: UPDATE:CCW Setting off alarms in stores???
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 26, 2009, 10:51:50 PM
Library books set them off ;D
Title: Re: UPDATE:CCW Setting off alarms in stores???
Post by: Steyr M40A1 on March 27, 2009, 07:46:06 AM
Very interesting thread.

And I agree, Glock's suck!!
That's why I carry the original Austrian Manufacture. STEYR

Or some would say, what a Glock should be.

Smarter than your average Glockhead.

I could go on and on but I wont.
Just my personal opinion.