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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: dj454 on March 15, 2009, 11:48:26 AM
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I saw my first 10/22 charger at the gun show this weekend and I can't get it out of my head. I never wanted one until I handled one at the gun show. This one had the red white and blue stock. I am wondering how well it can be shot offhand or is it just a bench gun. Either way I think I am going to have to have one. Dang it my list keeps getting longer. I think I need to stay away from the gunshow.
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Id like to have one with a
shoulder stock collapsible shoulder stock
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I've had my Charger for around a year and I absolutely love it. It is, most definitely, a bench gun unless you have some Popeye looking forearms, but you'll want to utilize a bench anyway so you don't miss out on its tack driving capabilities. I would suggest you invest in the kit from Cabela's which locks the bolt back after the magazine is emptied to avoid dry firing it. (I hate counting rounds) That and some spinners or steel silhouette targets and you'll be set for many relatively cheap days at the range.
Swoop
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Fun & Trendy at the range, and a fun conversation piece. The squirrel's will laugh you out of the woods.
The bolt hold back kits are kinda nice, and work really well. Yet, my personal choice would be to avoid them. Unlike most guns, 10/22's arent going to be phased by dry fires.
While it pi$$'s me off a lot, I like that I often dry fire my 10/22's at the range by accident when the magazine is empty. Want to know if your flinching even the least little bit without realizing it? Pulling the trigger instead of squeezing it? If you've REALLY got as good a rest as you think? That surprise dry fire will tell you A LOT about your shooting!!!
The military randomly inserts rounds designed specifically made to do this (intentional duds) for sharp shooter and sniper training & practice.
M63 Round:
The cartridge is used for
practice in loading 7.62mm weapons for simulated firing
to detect flinching of personnel during firing and for
inspecting and testing the weapon mechanism.
If you want more of a challenge hunting small game, a more compact weapon, or just something different:
(http://sk1.yt-thm-a01.yimg.com/image/ad5e594aff94fd08)
Mark III Hunter
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Unlike most guns, 10/22's arent going to be phased by dry fires.
I could be wrong (wouldn't be the first time), heck, I thought you weren't supposed to dry fire center fire guns until a couple years ago. I was taught, however, that dry firing was a definite no no when it came to rimfires.
Swoop
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The Charger can actually be shot quite accurately if you shoot it as if it is a rifle, instead of from a traditional pistol stance. Also the bipod does provide additional support for bracing the Charger against a tree while shooting tree rats.
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I'd never dry fire ANY centerfire gun I've got on purpose. That said. There is an aftermarket firing pin for the SKS's that will stop it from doing significant damage when dry fired (If I remember right its a "Murrays" firing pin).
I cant speak for any rimfires as far as dry fires doing damage except the 10/22. The firing pin in them is NOT going to break, or impact anything that will do damage.
(http://www.redstararms.com/tfp.jpg)
The "step" you see on the bottom stops it from going to far forward, & the hammer is stopped by the back of the bolt.
I still wouldnt want people to just sit around the house popping off imaginary rounds all day for the rest of their lives, but the hammer spring in a 10/22 isnt going to hit with enough force to bust anything in there. The gun was pretty darn well made!
Power Custom DOES have a titainium firing pin thats nice to!
"TREE RATS"!!! Their so fuzzy and cute! Until you blow their brains all over the woods. At that point, they make good stew! :)
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Id like to have one with a shoulder stock collapsible shoulder stock
And you can for a $5 tax stamp... you would be creating a AOW.
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As too the dry firing a Ruger rimfire the manual says it is ok and to the Mark 3 Hunter I already have one.
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As too the dry firing a Ruger rimfire the manual says it is ok and to the Mark 3 Hunter I already have one.
Manual? Why would you waste your time reading a manual? :D
Swoop
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Manual? Why would you waste your time reading a manual? :D
Swoop
Manuals are good for when you need to figure out why it doesn't work after you put it back together (or what the extra parts are for). ;D ;D
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If you didn't read the manuel... there is no way you would be able to get a mark 3 back toegther.
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If you didn't read the manuel... there is no way you would be able to get a mark 3 back toegther.
What he said and the manual doesn't make it any easier, but it does get a little easier after you have done it half a dozen times. But Tab is right if you dont read the manual on this you would have to be an engineer to figure this one out on your on.
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What he said and the manual doesn't make it any easier, but it does get a little easier after you have done it half a dozen times. But Tab is right if you dont read the manual on this you would have to be an engineer to figure this one out on your on.
I know engineers that could not get it thiers back toeghter. Its the main reason why I did not buy one. I don't want a gun that needs to be cleaned often that is not a breeze to take apart and put back toegther. its also the reason I went to a smith model 41 vs a high standard.
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Obviously, sarcasm doesn't come across so well through the medium of the written word. That, or TAB needs to tease his bangs a little higher so its not over his head next time. ;D I do deserve a little flack for posting about the Charger without reading the manual, though, considering I own one.
Swoop
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"I know engineers that could not get it thiers back toeghter". ME! I'll admit it! Bachelors of Science Mechanical Engineering, Certified Journeyman Machinist, Aircraft Airframe and Powerplant Certified.
First time took me two freakin days! second, & third took a couple hours ALL WITH THE MANUAL!!! THEN I learned the trick of exactly when to put in the magazine and when to pull the trigger while its pointed DIRECTLY up, NOT just at a 70 or 80 deg angle or anything! Takes about a minute now. I admit to doing a double and tripple take when the manual said to "hit it with a hammer" to get it apart to!!!!!!!! "I just paid $500 for this thing! Hit it with a hammer?!?!?"
Before I bought mine I and two guys behind the counter at Williams gun sights took apart a Mark II I was looking at. It was still in peaces the next day when I went back & bought the Mark III. Aside from being a Chinese finger trap to put together I LOVE IT!
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Try putting it back together with a Mark II manuel. Took me a day and a half first time. (there was no second. It's a HazJr gun, I 'let' him learn ;) )
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I'll admit it was a bear at first but after you do it a few times it really does get easier but never easy but the Mark III shoots so good and function so reliably it's worth it in the end.
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The Speed Strip Kit from Majestic Arms makes the Standard, MK I, MK II, MK III, and 22/45 a breeze to get the bolt out for cleaning and to put back together. I already have it in one pistol and I'm thinking about buying another one. http://www.majesticarms.com/id10.html
I want a .22 Magnum pistol. Too bad they don't make a Magnum Charger. :(