Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: Marshal Halloway on March 15, 2009, 01:49:11 PM
Title: Buzz off! It's our second amendment! (Lou Dobbs)
Post by: Marshal Halloway on March 15, 2009, 01:49:11 PM
Tester Stands Up for Gun Rights on 'Lou Dobbs Tonight'
Title: Re: Buzz off! It's our second amendment! (Lou Dobbs)
Post by: bryand71 on March 15, 2009, 01:54:06 PM
We need more of our Representitives to stand up and back us up on this more than ever! I applaud Mr. Tester for doing so.
Title: Re: Buzz off! It's our second amendment! (Lou Dobbs)
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 15, 2009, 01:56:36 PM
Hooray for Lou Dobbs !!! You expect those sort of comments from a Pro 2A Senator, but for a CNN reporter to so vehemently agree with it is outstanding, and can ONLY be good for the cause of Liberty.
Title: Re: Buzz off! It's our second amendment! (Lou Dobbs)
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 15, 2009, 02:04:22 PM
I hate to say I told you so...aww, who am I kiddding I LOVE to say I told you so! ;D 1 pro-gun democrat is worth 5 pro-gun Republicans, because Obama can't ignore them. Support your local Blue Dogs and vote across party lines. Make both parties come looking to us for support. fightingquaker13
Title: Re: Buzz off! It's our second amendment! (Lou Dobbs)
Post by: PegLeg45 on March 15, 2009, 02:12:35 PM
That caught me totally off guard.........outstanding video.
Title: Re: Buzz off! It's our second amendment! (Lou Dobbs)
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 15, 2009, 02:13:43 PM
I hate to say I told you so...aww, who am I kiddding I LOVE to say I told you so! ;D 1 pro-gun democrat is worth 5 pro-gun Republicans, because Obama can't ignore them. Support your local Blue Dogs and vote across party lines. Make both parties come looking to us for support. fightingquaker13
Like I posted before, It's the other baggage of being a Dem that makes voting across party lines thing distasteful. We need a viable 3rd party to be formed leaving the "Party Hack's" where they are and uniting the ones who are sensible. Leave the social stuff out of it, Abortion, welfare, health care, are NOT issues that concern the Federal Govt. under the Constitution. Enforcing the provisions of the Constitution, defending our Borders,limiting Govt.,and common sense spending practices to limit or eliminate stifling taxation are the rightful concerns of the federal govt.
Title: Re: Buzz off! It's our second amendment! (Lou Dobbs)
Post by: dj454 on March 15, 2009, 02:28:21 PM
Surprising video but it gives me hope maybe we have a chance.
Title: Re: Buzz off! It's our second amendment! (Lou Dobbs)
Post by: PegLeg45 on March 15, 2009, 02:39:37 PM
Like I posted before, It's the other baggage of being a Dem that makes voting across party lines thing distasteful. We need a viable 3rd party to be formed leaving the "Party Hack's" where they are and uniting the ones who are sensible. Leave the social stuff out of it, Abortion, welfare, health care, are NOT issues that concern the Federal Govt. under the Constitution. Enforcing the provisions of the Constitution, defending our Borders,limiting Govt.,and common sense spending practices to limit or eliminate stifling taxation are the rightful concerns of the federal govt.
Bravo......One day maybe the public will understand that it's not so much about 'Republican vs. Democrat' as it is about needing AMERICANS With GOOD COMMON SENSE to step up to the plate and LEAD this country to where it needs to be.
Title: Re: Buzz off! It's our second amendment! (Lou Dobbs)
Post by: Timothy on March 15, 2009, 02:46:26 PM
Hooray for Lou Dobbs !!! You expect those sort of comments from a Pro 2A Senator, but for a CNN reporter to so vehemently agree with it is outstanding, and can ONLY be good for the cause of Liberty.
Lou Dobbs is obviously a 2A supporter and not the norm for a CNN journalist. If I'm not mistaken, didn't Dobbs wife forget to leave her CCW at home when she tried to board an aircraft a few years ago?
Title: Re: Buzz off! It's our second amendment! (Lou Dobbs)
Post by: Pathfinder on March 15, 2009, 04:27:21 PM
Lou Dobbs is obviously a 2A supporter and not the norm for a CNN journalist. If I'm not mistaken, didn't Dobbs wife forget to leave her CCW at home when she tried to board an aircraft a few years ago?
Doesn't necessarily mean they're pro-2A, just that they're celebrities and "special" that way. But it was nice to see that on CNN, I do agree. Wonderful. And keep it up!
Title: Re: Buzz off! It's our second amendment! (Lou Dobbs)
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 17, 2009, 10:44:50 AM
Democrats Divided Over Gun Amendment in D.C. House Voting Rights Bill
By Kathleen Hunter, CQ Staff Kathleen Hunter, Cq Staff – 1 hr 15 mins ago Featured Topics:
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's decision to join nearly two dozen Democrats in supporting a Republican gun amendment could foretell difficulties for the Obama administration if the White House pushes for stricter firearms limits.
Twenty-two Democrats -- most of them from Western or conservative-leaning states -- voted Thursday in favor of an amendment by Nevada Republican John Ensign that would codify a 2008 Supreme Court ruling that struck down a District of Columbia gun ownership ban and declared for the first time that the Second Amendment includes an individual right to bear arms. The amendment, which Ensign offered to legislation (S 160) that would grant D.C. residents full voting rights in the House, was adopted 62-36.
"People are afraid," Ensign said after the vote, when asked to explain Democratic support for his amendment. "From a purist standpoint, I hope that they now just see more of the importance of the Constitution. But from a cynical standpoint I guess you could say that they're just making sure that they're not voting against what they think voters in their states would respond to."
Ensign's amendment would repeal the District's restrictions on semiautomatic weapons, bar the city's registration requirements for most guns and drop criminal penalties for possessing an unregistered firearm.
The first gun-related Senate vote of the 111th Congress underscores a schism within the Democratic Party. While senators from more densely populated, urban states in the Northeast and the West Coast are committed to tightening gun restrictions now that Democrats control Congress and the White House, senators from more rural and conservative states in the Midwest and West are prepared to block such efforts.
"Any gun vote is difficult for Westerners -- Democrat Westerners," said Sen. John Thune, R-S.D.
Thursday's vote came one day after Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. said the Obama administration would work to reinstate the nationwide assault weapons ban that expired in 2004.
Reid, who is facing a potentially tough re-election bid in 2010, was endorsed in 2004 by the National Rifle Association and has opposed a ban on assault weapons.
"The Second Amendment's pretty important," said Montana Democrat Jon Tester, who voted for Ensign's proposal.
Tester, who added that he would oppose any attempt to reinstitute an assault weapons ban, said Democratic leaders did not pressure him to vote one way or another on the amendment. "Not a word," he said. "I think everybody in Congress knows where I am on this issue. It's not a secret. So there was no pressure. No pressure either way."
Last-Minute Decisions Reid and several other Western Democrats who ultimately supported the amendment had not decided Thursday afternoon how they would vote. As he walked onto the Senate floor for the vote, freshman Colorado Democrat Michael Bennet still had not made up his mind.
"I'm going to talk to my colleagues about it," said Bennet, who was appointed earlier this year to replace fellow Democrat Ken Salazar, now Obama's Interior secretary. Bennet, who has never before held elected office, would face election in 2010.
Two other freshman Democrats -- Colorado's Mark Udall and New Mexico's Tom Udall -- also were undecided shortly before the vote. Like Reid and Bennet, they supported the amendment in the end.
More-liberal Democrats, such as Majority Whip Richard J. Durbin of Illinois, vehemently opposed the measure, which Durbin described as "one of the most extreme pieces of legislation on the issue of guns" that he'd seen. Durbin said Ensign's amendment would prohibit D.C. officials from "saying to a person who is visually impaired and a chronic alcoholic who has voluntarily committed himself to a mental institution and who is under the age of 12 from owning a gun. . . . That strikes me as over the edge."
Another outspoken critic of the amendment -- California Democrat Dianne Feinstein -- announced late Thursday that she plans to introduce legislation reinstating the federal assault weapons ban.
Thursday's vote also was a tricky one for New York Democrat Kirsten Gillibrand, whose opposition to measures designed to curtail gun owners' rights has led to talk of a primary challenge in 2010. But Gillibrand opposed the Ensign amendment, which she said was "far too broad," adding it would threaten "some of the common-sense regulations and laws that actually can crack down on the criminals getting access to the weapons."
Gillibrand played down the idea that her vote was politically motivated or that it might put her at odds with Upstate New York voters.
"No one in Upstate New York wants criminals to have guns," she said. "I feel very strongly that I'm going to fight against gun violence in our communities and keep guns out of the hands of criminals, and I'm also going to protect the Second Amendment. I think those two views are not mutually exclusive. I think you can absolutely do both."
National Republican Senatorial Committee Chairman John Cornyn of Texas said Democrats were smart to recruit candidates whose views on gun issues reflected those of their constituents.
"Democrats have done a pretty good job. . . . I think Republicans could learn a little bit of something from the way they've picked their candidates that fit those states but may not fit the ideological agenda here in Washington," Cornyn said.
Ensign acknowledged that his amendment likely would be dropped if the bill goes to conference with the House but said he would pressure Democrats to retain it.
"We're going to try to put enough pressure from the outside to make sure they don't drop it," he said. "But I think, yes, the odds of them dropping it are pretty high."
Title: Re: Buzz off! It's our second amendment! (Lou Dobbs)
Post by: Hazcat on March 17, 2009, 10:57:32 AM
Tom,
When and where is the article from, got a link?
Title: Re: Buzz off! It's our second amendment! (Lou Dobbs)
Post by: 1911 Junkie on March 17, 2009, 11:40:37 AM
"I'm going to talk to my colleagues about it," said Bennet, who was appointed earlier this year to replace fellow Democrat Ken Salazar, now Obama's Interior secretary. Bennet, who has never before held elected office, would face election in 2010.
How about you talk to your consituents about it, you know, the people that you need to vote for you.
Title: Re: Buzz off! It's our second amendment! (Lou Dobbs)
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 17, 2009, 01:17:21 PM
Here you go Haz http://news.yahoo.com/s/cq/20090317/pl_cq_politics/politics3062401;_ylt=A0wNcx3.6L9J7xYBIwA8KbIF
Title: Re: Buzz off! It's our second amendment! (Lou Dobbs)
Post by: Hazcat on March 17, 2009, 01:35:28 PM
Thanks, Tom.
Wanted to see the date on it.
The NY 'appointee' is backing down on 2A support and as it says it will probably be dropped from the final bill so Reid and other D 'supporters' can crow that they wanted it. Pure bait and switch.
Title: Re: Buzz off! It's our second amendment! (Lou Dobbs)
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 17, 2009, 06:16:41 PM
The NY 'appointee' is backing down on 2A support and as it says it will probably be dropped from the final bill so Reid and other D 'supporters' can crow that they wanted it. Pure bait and switch.
Oh yes, I forgot there were other political words that started with BS ;D
Title: Re: Buzz off! It's our second amendment! (Lou Dobbs)
Post by: cookie62 on March 17, 2009, 10:10:07 PM
Say another Dobbs report awhile back, he was talking about American guns in Mexico. The government said 90% of the illegal guns come from the US. But Mexico won't give AFT serial numbers to check where they are actually coming from. He's definitely pro 2nd amendment.
Title: Re: Buzz off! It's our second amendment! (Lou Dobbs)
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 17, 2009, 10:22:11 PM
Say another Dobbs report awhile back, he was talking about American guns in Mexico. The government said 90% of the illegal guns come from the US. But Mexico won't give AFT serial numbers to check where they are actually coming from. He's definitely pro 2nd amendment.
Sure their coming from the US. They are being bought by the Mexican security forces and kept by the 17,000+ deserters.
Title: Re: Buzz off! It's our second amendment! (Lou Dobbs)
Post by: tumblebug on March 18, 2009, 02:04:31 PM
B Y O G ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Buzz off! It's our second amendment! (Lou Dobbs)
Post by: tommy tornado on March 18, 2009, 02:58:18 PM
Lou Dobbs is my new hero!
Title: Re: Buzz off! It's our second amendment! (Lou Dobbs)
Post by: Dakotaranger on March 19, 2009, 12:18:41 AM
It's kind of interesting to listen to the news coming out of Montana. They may be the most Pro-2nd Amendment in the nation.
I'm not strictly a one issue voter (if you divide the Bill of Rights and the Constitution) so it is a little weird cheering anything coming from Democrats, but Montana Senators are on the right track, at least with the 2nd Amendment.