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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: ericire12 on March 17, 2009, 01:14:52 PM

Title: German Chancellor calls for unannounced raids of gun owners' homes
Post by: ericire12 on March 17, 2009, 01:14:52 PM
 :o :o :o :o :o

http://www.prisonplanet.com/german-chancellor-merkel-calling-for-raids-on-homes.html
Title: Re: German Chancellor calls for unannounced raids of gun owners' homes
Post by: twyacht on March 17, 2009, 04:27:23 PM
quote from article:

Germans will see history repeat itself in their own country, when SS style police SWAT teams in black uniforms with machine guns raid their homes and are, without judge and jury, guilty until proven innocent.

"Because the state can no longer protect us from crime, it wants to take away from us the means of protecting ourselves. This is the logic of gun control."
Joe Sobran

The slippery slope of history repeating itself, just got a wax job,......

Title: Re: German Chancellor calls for unannounced raids of gun owners' homes
Post by: tt11758 on March 17, 2009, 04:52:07 PM
I don't remember where I read it (probably on here somewhere), but it's ironic that when violent crimes are committed the government seems hell bent on passing legislation to punish those who didn't do it.
Title: Re: German Chancellor calls for unannounced raids of gun owners' homes
Post by: dj454 on March 17, 2009, 07:20:50 PM
I don't remember where I read it (probably on here somewhere), but it's ironic that when violent crimes are committed the government seems hell bent on passing legislation to punish those who didn't do it.
Bullseye +1
Title: Re: German Chancellor calls for unannounced raids of gun owners' homes
Post by: MikeBjerum on March 18, 2009, 07:40:53 AM
I don't know what the German's federal papers say, but I do know what is handwritten in the United States of America!

I have two fears if this were to happen in this Great Nation:

1.  A large group of lemmings will allow it to happen to them;

2.  It will get real bloody when it happens to another large group when it is attempted.

Prediction - If this is attempted here we will see the beginnings of Civil War II
Title: Re: German Chancellor calls for unannounced raids of gun owners' homes
Post by: twyacht on March 18, 2009, 05:31:58 PM
Speaking with a German citizen, here on a work visa, the German Police always had the chance to "check" on gun owners, it REQUIRED probable cause to an extent, and was very rarely utilized, due to the STRICT gun laws already in place, manpower, costs, etc,..

The German Gov't already knows WHO has the "legally" obtained firearms, as they have TO BE REGISTERED!

Now Merkel wants the program to have any probable reason REMOVED, and the random door knocks to be allowed.

If your neighbor argues with you and knows you have a weapon, a phone call to the authorities, and KNOCK, KNOCK, KNOCK.

Remember, Democrats consider Europe to be a more "structured" society, and now that the US is having some big problems, getting more "structure" into our lives is just the thing we need,.....aka,,,,MORE GOV"T. >:(

Title: Re: German Chancellor calls for unannounced raids of gun owners' homes
Post by: ericire12 on March 18, 2009, 08:06:58 PM
Speaking with a German citizen, here on a work visa, the German Police always had the chance to "check" on gun owners, it REQUIRED probable cause to an extent, and was very rarely utilized, due to the STRICT gun laws already in place, manpower, costs, etc,..

The German Gov't already knows WHO has the "legally" obtained firearms, as they have TO BE REGISTERED!

Now Merkel wants the program to have any probable reason REMOVED, and the random door knocks to be allowed.

If your neighbor argues with you and knows you have a weapon, a phone call to the authorities, and KNOCK, KNOCK, KNOCK.

Remember, Democrats consider Europe to be a more "structured" society, and now that the US is having some big problems, getting more "structure" into our lives is just the thing we need,.....aka,,,,MORE GOV"T. >:(



Bullseye!
Title: Re: German Chancellor calls for unannounced raids of gun owners' homes
Post by: philw on March 19, 2009, 07:03:29 AM
hmmm that looks familiar 


over here that happens 


as an LAFO  we are subject to random checks 

ie

knock, knock,   we are here to check your firearms....


now this is where some people have got in the shit



if I am at home no issue  I just show them   check rego's and storage meets requirements 

however if I am out   all  the Mrs can do is show them where the safe  is.  tell them that they are in there however SHE can not show them inside  as she is not able to have accesses to the safe.

where a few people have come unstuck is where the wife or some that is unlicensed thinks they are doing the right thing, open up the safe and then the owner gets done for letting unlicensed  people have accesses to the firearms (it has happened)

tell me who gets treated like a criminal   shame the Crims don't need to worry about that.  as they would not be licensed to start with and don't have registered firearms