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Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: Rastus on March 20, 2009, 06:27:18 PM
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Getting close? http://vltor.wordpress.com/ (http://vltor.wordpress.com/)
Scored a Bren Ten today (thanks for the telecon research Haz....pictures coming after return from my trip south). Now I am in wait for a Fortis to shoot. And the Fortis seems to be progressing towards fruition.
Did any of you guys who went to SHOT visit their display?
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Rastus,
It is really not easy to make me jealous. A friend of mine recently bought a DB9... I wasn't as impressed as I am that you bought a Bren.
Well done!
-RJP
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Hope you can find mags for it.
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Rastus,
It is really not easy to make me jealous. A friend of mine recently bought a DB9... I wasn't as impressed as I am that you bought a Bren.
Well done!
-RJP
Thanks...I'd always wanted one, didn't have time to research with work and Haz was gracious enough to pull some research for me. Afterwards I found out there were only 1,500 produced....the old boy coulda' asked more if I'd known that going in.
(http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt114/RastusNR/100_4441.jpg)
(http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt114/RastusNR/100_4439.jpg)
Did you get that email I sent a couple of weeks back?
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Hope you can find mags for it.
Me too....
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I did... but I was in Europe for most of the last month.... no time for follow ups on a really side project, etc... Thanks though!
I'll expect a Range Report at some point! I can recall seeing a pic of someone actually shooting one they owned on the forums!
-RJP
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That is a lovely firearm.
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Rastus, I did not realize that what you had Gen. Tibbets autograph was a scale model of "THE BOMB".
COOL !
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Miami Vice anyone!
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Miami Vice anyone!
All I need to do is hardface that slide and voila'....MTV cops! That aside, according to Vltor's press release, the Fortis will come in several flavors...one being the Miami Vice look-alike
I really like how VLTOR is being methodical in the recreation of the Bren Ten, shape, style, dimension. I'm really impressed with their desire for quality; hitting all the right buttons like redesigning the frame, slide stop, etc. without changing "the look" of the Bren Ten.
Not only a scale model of the bomb complete with an authentic looking specification tag...but did you notice the little clear box of rocks?
(http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt114/RastusNR/100_4457.jpg)
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Rastus, That is a beautiful piece, and I hope it shoots as good as it looks.
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Rastus..I swear that is the VERY Bren Ten I lost my $250 deposit on!!! I shot the Colonel's 001 BT, and it was a snappy beast...still, that won't prevent me from placing YET ANOTHER DEPOSIT on the Vitor version...good to know I never learn...
Michael B
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Rastus..I swear that is the VERY Bren Ten I lost my $250 deposit on!!! I shot the Colonel's 001 BT, and it was a snappy beast...still, that won't prevent me from placing YET ANOTHER DEPOSIT on the Vitor version...good to know I never learn...
Michael B
I hate that for you...I understand what it's like to put out a deposit and never see it again. It is more like dashing a dream or preventing an accomplishment than losing a buck.
Could, since you are the Master Insider of the gun culture, you please let us know when Vltor is ready to accept orders...I'd like to be towards the top of the list! I would not be surprised if the Bren Ten mystique fuels as many initial orders as were the entire population of Bren Ten's that were actualy built (1,500....that's right guys, 1,500 not 15,000 or 150,000).
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Sweet Bren Rastus you lucky dog I want one so bad. Well send a few down range for me. Enjoy.
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That's a mighty sexy firearm, Rastus. I had to go have a cigarette after all that gun porn. :) :D ;D
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I couldnt find a BT but i do own EAA elite and hunter models in 10mm and mags are available. Hell i do give up props for the real deal though. Hey Rob i watch BD every week, its a great show but anything from overseas on the BD.
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Looks like Vltor's Bren Ten project is back and running. I will even sell some of my stock of 22LR to buy one of the new ones. The information below is "farm fresh":
http://www.vltor.com/2014/01/09/bren-ten-update-2014-2/ (http://www.vltor.com/2014/01/09/bren-ten-update-2014-2/)
Bren Ten Update 2014
admin 9.1.2014 14 Comments
January 9, 2014
To Our Valued Customers:
Bren Ten Project
We, at VLTOR, know that the subject of the Bren Ten handgun is of great interest to many of our customers. We understand
this has been a long process for you. It has been a long process for us as well. We also know that you have been given some
information along the way, but that information was limited and not regularly updated. Ultimately through this whole project,
our biggest regret is that we have let you down.
A little history behind the story
In 2010, VLTOR began a project that consisted of reengineering the original Bren Ten, 10mm handgun. Without the rights to
the name, we began developing the product under the name, VLTOR Fortis. We purchased the rights to the Bren Ten name,
giving us the ability to replicate the original Bren Ten. The initial prototypes of the Bren Ten pistol were shown at SHOT show
in 2010.
In the process of working on the design of the weapon and showing some initial prototypes, we were communicating with a
company called Spirit Guns as a primary distributor. Spirit Guns organized a purchase of Bren Ten handguns, and without our
consent or instruction, began taking pre-orders for the weapon. Spirit Guns went out of business shortly after this, which
created speculation and discontent for us. There was much debate occurring as to whether or not Spirit Guns was lead to
believe that development was closer to production than it was or whether we had approved the company to begin taking pre-
orders. We would like to assure you that neither of those were the case. We released the Bren Ten prototype prior to full
production in order to engage our customers and gauge demand on such a weapon. We did not give consent for any dealer or
distributor to begin preorder sales of the weapon prior to full testing and production.
Why hasn’t it gone into production yet?
We’d like to attempt to answer the biggest question all of you have: why hasn’t it gone into production yet? Although we’ve
sold several prototype units to a select few development partners, we have not yet achieved a design that is representative of
the standard you have come to expect from VLTOR. As a result, we have gone back to the drawing board multiple times, trying
to create the best possible product for you. As to be expected in the design process, some of those modifications have led us
down more than a couple of dead ends. In addition to design difficulties, turnover in our engineering department, coupled
with tough decisions for maintaining cash flows in a bad recession have been difficult and have also affected the Bren Ten
project.
In short, we haven’t lived up to your expectations. For that, we apologize. We want the Bren Ten to be the best we can build
in order to maintain its legacy and represent the level of quality you deserve.
The future of VLTOR and the Bren Ten
Our goal is to fill your demands and to do everything possible to satisfy our customer base. With that said, we are going to
continue to pursue the manufacture of the Bren Ten handgun. We know you have heard time and time again that “we are
working on it” and we understand if there might be continued skepticism. However, we hope that you will take into
consideration that we are working to be a new company; more driven to bring the innovative products to the market in a
timely manner with the quality you expect from us.
We have made changes to the company structure and to our manufacturing processes that are allowing us to be more
efficient in pursuing these projects. We can tell you that the Technical Data Pack (TDP) is complete for the Bren Ten, and as a
result of the recent changes to the business structure, a full design and engineering review have been completed. The next
step is to conduct a manufacturing review focusing on the new frame casting and current state of all the casting tools. Once
we can be certain the tools are capable of producing a quality, consistent product with the new materials, we will proceed to
an initial run of new prototypes. This will be a perilous undertaking as changes to casting tools generally have extended
timelines. However, if we achieve positive results, we will begin production in late 2014.
Many of you have been very patient with the process and we greatly appreciate that patience and support. Our goal is to keep
you up to date as the process unfolds, so please continue to visit our website and social media pages for updates as they
become available.
Sincerely,
Gary Signature
Gary Abrams
President/CEO
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Any word on $ MSRP? Rastus, I must say you made one hell of a deal!