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Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: tranefan on March 21, 2009, 08:31:09 PM
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I'm cross-dominant (right handed and left eyed) and have been shooting for 34 years (started when I was 12). No matter what I do I end up shooting slightly to my left. This has been the case whether it's with revolver or auto.
Below is the result of my third trip to the range with my new Kimber Pro Raptor II. I'm pretty sure I'm bringing the sights too far over in an attempt to "meet" my left eye. I realize it's a fairly decent group but it still frustrates me. Can I do something to "fix" things or should I just accept it.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/tranefan/100_0470.jpg)
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Drift the rear sight over to the right and you should be good.
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There is another thread on this subject...some good info has already been posted.
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php/topic,5773.0.html (http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php/topic,5773.0.html)
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Hold right ? If you have been aiming at the center and hitting left for 34 years that's consistent enough for me to recommend that you aim at the right edge instead and I bet you will be dead on with out messing with the sights which apparently work for you as it's consistent.
Would you rather shift your point of aim or drift the sights then a little more, then back because you went to far etc.
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I will always go for adjusting the sights versus hold over, if you are truly using the sights as intended, then it will work for you. Remembering to hold left/right, up/down in a tense situation, will probably not work. I wish I could watch you shoot and offer more personal help.
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I forgot to mention that this was done at 7 yds. using a weaver stance and cranking them out at a fairly rapid pace while focusing on the front sight.
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With groups like that rapid fire I personally wouldn't want to mess with mechanics. After all it muscle memory now. It really does seem easier to aim at the right nipple than between the two (either way, you win). That said, people do go out and retool their golf swings all the time (Just remember it took Tiger a year to get back on his game until he could master his new one). If it were me, I'd just shift right. However, if it bothers you and you can afford the Kimber (plus all those bullets ;)) I'd be asking people here to refer me to good coach in your area rather than just screwing around with something that doesn't look all that broken to me. If you're going to do it, do it right. Just my .02.
fightingquaker13
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I'm also left eye dominant, right handed. I just found it easier to shoot left handed.
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I will always go for adjusting the sights versus hold over, if you are truly using the sights as intended, then it will work for you. Remembering to hold left/right, up/down in a tense situation, will probably not work. I wish I could watch you shoot and offer more personal help.
My preference is for adjusting ME as opposed to messing with "hardware" that is consistent.
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Ok ... this may sound stupid ... Close your left eye!
I have nearly identical vision in both eyes, and with specs it is still nearly equal. What does that mean? When I shoot with both eyes open at some time along the way my eyes will fight for dominance. The only thing I can do is squint down with the left or close it all together. I have used opaque covers and tape over the left lens, but in a real world situation or in USPSA it is not an option. So, I have just learned how to regulate the goofiness of the balance in my vision.
God made us in His image, but not with all of His standard equipment. Because of this we must learn to live with what we have until we are perfect!
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Welcome to my new world!
I'm wildly right eye/side dominant...unfortunately, I've lost most of the vision in my right eye thanks to some botched surgery a couple of years back (that didn't quite make the legal definition of "malpractice").
After a certain period of anger, typical male stubbornness, by god I can do this, sort of denial, I sucked it up and started shooting right hand/left eye. I've always shot both eyes open as a competition shooter, and I initially thought my eyes would adjust to the left-eye-dominant on their owns. Didn't work...I had to go through a long period of closing my right eye to force my left eye to do the heavy lifting. I'm working on both eyes open again...I do notice a similar slightly to the left point-of-impact than shooting right-eyed and I'm still not as fast as I was in acquiring the sights.
Mounting long guns left-handed, now that't still a...challenge...LOL!
Michael B
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Michael, let me first say that I really enjoy Shooting Gallery and TBD. Secondly, thanks for taking the time to give your input.
I posted this issue on some other boards as well and I've received great comments. I'm pretty sure my initial thought that "I'm bringing the sights (ie....gun) too far over in an attempt to "meet" my left eye" is the problem. I'm going to consciously bring my head over to my right arm instead. I think that may work. Thanks, Jim
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"I'm going to consciously bring my head over to my right arm instead. I think that may work. Thanks, Jim"
I have a friend who is a good pistol shot and fast, He does bury his right eyesocket in his right bicep, to obscure the right eye and align the left. He is using the weaver stance with the right arm straight out, not bent, He does get tennis elbow from this technique from time to time.
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I thought I'd show a target shot under different circumstances for a comparison. I did this four weeks ago when I took my time with my Pro Raptor. It's the day I bought it and also the first time I had fired a 1911 in 15 years. I was "hammer" firing yesterday which resulted in the "spread" on the target in the first post.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/tranefan/100_0464.jpg)
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OK now I'll really muddy the waters. Here's the result of a typical day with one of my 3" K frames. What is it, CED, flinching or too little trigger finger? I'm more confused now than before. ;) ;D
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/tranefan/100_0405.jpg)
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Trane,
My thoughts in general on this topic are in this thread: http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php/topic,5773.msg69231/boardseen.html#new (http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php/topic,5773.msg69231/boardseen.html#new)
That offered this:
I forgot to mention that this was done at 7 yds. using a weaver stance and cranking them out at a fairly rapid pace while focusing on the front sight.
Might be part of the problem... try locking both arms out and not putting that back pressure with your offhand, which could be causing more of a cant, especially when shooting rapidly with a shorter trigger pull.
-RJP
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Trane,
My thoughts in general on this topic are in this thread: http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php/topic,5773.msg69231/boardseen.html#new (http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php/topic,5773.msg69231/boardseen.html#new)
That offered this:
Might be part of the problem... try locking both arms out and not putting that back pressure with your offhand, which could be causing more of a cant, especially when shooting rapidly with a shorter trigger pull.
-RJP
Thanks for your time and comments Rob. As I stated earlier, I really enjoy TBD and have actually got my Wife (who is largely a non-gun person) to watch it with me. I think she has picked up some information that can help her to keep safe on the road (she's a flight attendant). We look forward to next season already.