Title: Re: Government Thugs!
Post by: MikeBjerum on April 02, 2009, 09:18:59 PM
His biggest crime was cash ??? Oh, that's right, this is the new America where it is illegal to have more than the guy in the next seat!
TSA is like mall security guards. There are a few good ones out there, and they really do a good job. However, the majority are authority freaks and cop wanna be's that can't cut it. They not only do a crappy job, but they ruin the reputation of the few good, and ruin the lives of honest Americans >:(
Title: Re: Government Thugs!
Post by: Hazcat on April 02, 2009, 09:24:55 PM
His biggest crime was cash ??? Oh, that's right, this is the new America where it is illegal to have more than the guy in the next seat!
TSA is like mall security guards. There are a few good ones out there, and they really do a good job. However, the majority are authority freaks and cop wanna be's that can't cut it. They not only do a crappy job, but they ruin the reputation of the few good, and ruin the lives of honest Americans >:(
Agreed BUT they had armed, uniformed LEOs withthem. That was the voice that was doing all of the questioning!
Title: Re: Government Thugs!
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 02, 2009, 09:26:44 PM
Agreed BUT they had armed, uniformed LEOs withthem. That was the voice that was doing all of the questioning!
No, I'm pretty sure it was armed uniformed TSA agents
Title: Re: Government Thugs!
Post by: twyacht on April 02, 2009, 09:30:30 PM
Do I have the right to remain silent Mr. TSA/LEO? Take me to the station.,....However long it took to get this behind him,.... he wasn't charged with anything was he?,.....
Kinda makes you say Hmmmmm,....
They were/are gov't thugs. Kudos to this young man who kept his cool, remained polite/respectful even when they didn't deserve it.
And I hope the Judge keeps a big bright light on these thugs/bastards.
It was the TSA that was unprofessional here.....
Title: Re: Government Thugs!
Post by: Hazcat on April 02, 2009, 09:32:25 PM
I agree. Even the short clip led me to believe that it was TSA that started it, but LE was involved. And it was LE that was threatening him with DEA back at the station.
My take was it was TSA going over the line and wondering what the hell they got themselves into, but LE jumped all over it.
However, who ever it was that stopped them on the way out knew what was going on and stopped it all. I'm thinking that once LE hauled him out TSA reported it with all the info, and cooler heads prevailed.
Title: Re: Government Thugs!
Post by: fightingquaker13 on April 02, 2009, 09:37:33 PM
The Libertarian party, gentlemen, free minds and free markets. We're looking for a few good folks. fighingquaker13 who has yet another reason to avoid air travel
Title: Re: Government Thugs!
Post by: Hazcat on April 02, 2009, 09:43:28 PM
I agree. Even the short clip led me to believe that it was TSA that started it, but LE was involved. And it was LE that was threatening him with DEA back at the station.
My take was it was TSA going over the line and wondering what the hell they got themselves into, but LE jumped all over it.
However, who ever it was that stopped them on the way out knew what was going on and stopped it all. I'm thinking that once LE hauled him out TSA reported it with all the info, and cooler heads prevailed.
FBI
Title: Re: Government Thugs!
Post by: twyacht on April 02, 2009, 09:45:41 PM
It's the same mentality that seized guns from law abiding citizens after Hurricane Katrina, the same mindset that didn;t allow a man who ran a red light to be with his mother in law when she died....
The same mindset that is eroding our civil liberties slowly,....
I respect LEO's and the TSA, they do a tough job. However,
I carry cash, and where does the threshold lie for someone to get suspicious at the airport? $350.00,...$500, $1000, $5000?
If I have no "contraband", no warrants, no nothing like this man had, It's none of their damn business how much cash I have., and I am NOT obligated to answer their questions,...
Run your back ground check, terrorist "watch" list.,...etc,..., and let me catch my lame flight.
Title: Re: Government Thugs!
Post by: MikeBjerum on April 02, 2009, 09:46:36 PM
I didn't want to say that for sure, because I thought I heard them say "I think it was FBI." However, he got them down off their testosterone high.
Title: Re: Government Thugs!
Post by: tt11758 on April 03, 2009, 02:26:59 PM
Since when is it a crime to carry cash? I suppose it WILL be at some point, since limiting transactions to electronic transfers will leave a trail that the nanny state can follow to determine who needs re-education based upon their purchases.
What the HELL happened to the America I grew up in? Welcome to the USSA.
Title: Re: Government Thugs!
Post by: Teresa Heilevang on April 07, 2009, 11:24:15 AM
You know that turned my blood to ice............
Gripes my ass to see government bullies making it up as they go, no limits on their power, just grab people, snoop into their personal effects, assume guilt if they have anything the agents can twist with their paranoid little minds into a questionable possession. It's beyond their marginal mini IQ scope to imagine somebody just sold a bunch of literature for cash; in their bully club only criminals would have cash. The rest of us are supposed to buy on credit with all transactions recorded and monitored by Big Bro.
Hopefully The X-ray machines that are used at the airports are NOT well shielded… exposing the TSA employees to levels of radiation that will render them “Unable to Reproduce”
Think of it as “Natural Selection at Work” or as I like to call it, “Skimming the Skum off the Top of the Gene Pool” ;)
Title: Re: Government Thugs!
Post by: jaybet on April 07, 2009, 11:45:53 AM
Just went throught the airports on my way to meet grandbaby. In Philly airport, while you wind your way back and forth to get to the screening they have big monitors with a Disney like TSA employee telling you "WHY" they do what they do and how safe we all are for their efforts. Then I notice that one of the women working the metal detectors is wearing Muslim headgear. So I'm taking my shoes and belt off and having my belongings searched while a muslim checks me through the security process. Just plain sick.
Title: Re: Government Thugs!
Post by: 1776 Rebel on April 07, 2009, 11:54:21 AM
Back in the 1990's when the government got all jacked up about drugs (for the Nth time) the Feds passed a seizure law on money. If you are stopped and have cash on you while traveling, the local police can seize that as prima facia evidence of intent to engage in drug activities. Some departments (I believe in a couple of southern airports) got exposed because they were siezing cash from travelers and paying for department excursions to resorts. There are hundreds of these stories of folks having their funds (if not life savings) stolen by police LEGALLY. Just google "traveler cash seizure" or "asset seizure". Here's one story...
Once again WE gave them the right to do this....WE all sat by and did nothing and re-re-re-re-elected the same politicians.
Title: Re: Government Thugs!
Post by: ratcatcher55 on April 07, 2009, 12:29:55 PM
I think these bozos (no insult to clowns intended) are doing a bit of "proactive" policing.
This come from one of three sources.
1) FNG wants to make the big bust and questions everybody about everything. Where are you going? Where have you been? Why do you have on brown shoes? Why are you driving while black? Sooner or later someone calls and complains about harassment.
2) Badge Happy jerks. Dealling with one is bad but a pack of them are like high school bullies. They need to be shown the door.
3) Some manager says you must conduct 5 interviews a day, 7 traffic stops a shift, have 10 contacts per fortnight. The manager needs numbers for a weeky spreadsheet or he/she will not get a good review form their boss. In this case the LEO's go through the motions as quickly as possible and are generally demoralized by the whole affair.
The young gentleman did the right thing. Polite but firm. He was more proffesional than the TSA dweebs and LEO.
If you don't mind missing your plane, try these helpful hints.
Ask who to contact at Internal Affairs or Profesional Standards to file a complaint. That just let's them know they are in for the same treatment from their own team. Never a fun time. ;D
Decline to go down town. Make them arrest you. If they don't have anything to charge you with they will huff and puff but let you go. If they charge you with hindering, sue the pants off of the agency.
Title: Re: Government Thugs!
Post by: Pathfinder on April 07, 2009, 06:31:56 PM
Just went throught the airports on my way to meet grandbaby. In Philly airport, while you wind your way back and forth to get to the screening they have big monitors with a Disney like TSA employee telling you "WHY" they do what they do and how safe we all are for their efforts. Then I notice that one of the women working the metal detectors is wearing Muslim headgear. So I'm taking my shoes and belt off and having my belongings searched while a muslim checks me through the security process. Just plain sick.
Even worse is sitting on a plane in Minneapolis and watching the mooslims on the tarmac putting stuff into the belly of your plane. Not a good feeling.
Title: Re: Government Thugs!
Post by: runstowin on April 07, 2009, 07:57:13 PM
My mother who is a grand and great grand mother was pawed over by a muslim witch at DIA several years ago, sure let the enemy do your security for you. Thank you ex-president Bush.