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3 officers killed in Pittsburgh shooting
By RAMIT PLUSHNICK-MASTI – 1 hour ago
PITTSBURGH (AP) — Pittsburgh police say a man wearing a bulletproof vest opened fire on officers during a domestic disturbance call, killing three of them.
Police chief Nate Harper says the motive for Saturday's shooting isn't clear. Friends say the gunman recently had been upset about losing his job and that he feared the Obama administration was poised to ban guns.
The three dead officers are Eric Kelly, Stephen Mayhle and Paul Sciullo III. Kelly had been on the force for 14 years and the other two only two years each. Another officer was shot in the hand and a fifth broke his leg on a fence.
The gunman, 23-year-old Richard Poplawski, was arrested after a four-hour standoff.
THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.
PITTSBURGH (AP) — A man opened fire on officers during a domestic disturbance call Saturday morning, killing three of them, a police official said. Friends said he recently had been upset about losing his job and that he feared the Obama administration was poised to ban guns.
Neighbors described how a quiet street in the city's Stanton Heights neighborhood turned into a battlefield with hundreds of rounds cracking through the morning air and fallen police officers lying bleeding in the street, their colleagues unable to reach them.
Three officers were killed, said a police official at the scene who spoke on condition of anonymity because was not authorized to talk to the media. Police spokeswoman Diane Richard would only say that at least five officers were wounded, but wouldn't give any other details.
Friends identified the suspect as Richard Poplawski, 23, but police would not immediately confirm his name. The gunman was arrested after a four-hour standoff, police said.
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The local stations were all over this like buzzards. Going to add more fuel to the fire.
They also reported he used an AK-47..................just dandy.
Thoughts and prayers to the officers and their families.
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Call me paranoid and tin foil hat wearing, but mass shootings occur on a daily basis now...
The only solution is more gun laws, right?
No one here believes that for one second, but the 95% of the country that is sheeple will.
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CNN is reporting that the guy was wearing body armor. A booth at a local gun show had a sign that said that body armor is soon to be illegal for civilians in California. Body armor seems pretty much a defensive accessory. It's getting frustrating. Of course the libs are going to throw their anti-gun spin on this. To me, it seems that these are more reason for an armed populace. ???
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3 officers killed in Pittsburgh shooting
] Friends say the gunman recently had been upset about losing his job and that he feared the Obama administration was poised to ban guns.[/b]
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So naturally he did his best to make that happen. The only thing that really resonates with the public on this issue outside the pro/anti echo chamber is mass killings. Particularly of LEOs.Most folks don't give a damn about Mexicos gun problem but 9 cops shot up within a couple months? This is the kind of thing that has legs and will get phones ringing against us. I would say we have just lost Gillebrand and probably others. Arrgh, all we can do is pray for the families and keep the pressure on the blue dogs and moderate gop, oh and if you're having a bad day try not to do this. Damn it! >:(
fighingquaker13
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Shooting are just starting, no there just getting more coverage. Welcome to the human condition. Remember we're just animals, domesticated yes, but even the family dog can snap one day and kill its owner.
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A lot of smart pro-gun people have been saying that this type of incident is the exact thing that will unleash anti-gun hell on us. Give the people hours of coverage of a psycho killing cops with an "Assault Rifle" wearing body armor and you will have the blind and stupid sheep agreeing that the guns are the danger. And that they should be taken from everyone because you don't know who will be next to go off the deep end and start shooting people in quiet neighborhoods. God help us all!
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they have updated the story
3 officers killed in Pittsburgh shooting
By RAMIT PLUSHNICK-MASTI – 2 hours ago
PITTSBURGH (AP) — Pittsburgh police say a man wearing a bulletproof vest opened fire on officers during a domestic disturbance call, killing three of them.
Police chief Nate Harper says the motive for Saturday's shooting isn't clear. Friends say the gunman recently had been upset about losing his job and that he feared the Obama administration was poised to ban guns.
The three dead officers are Eric Kelly, Stephen Mayhle and Paul Sciullo III. Kelly had been on the force for 14 years and the other two only two years each. Another officer was shot in the hand and a fifth broke his leg on a fence.
The gunman, 23-year-old Richard Poplawski, was arrested after a four-hour standoff.
THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.
PITTSBURGH (AP) — A man opened fire on officers during a domestic disturbance call Saturday morning, killing three of them, a police official said. Friends said he recently had been upset about losing his job and that he feared the Obama administration was poised to ban guns.
Neighbors described how a quiet street in the city's Stanton Heights neighborhood turned into a battlefield with hundreds of rounds cracking through the morning air and fallen police officers lying bleeding in the street, their colleagues unable to reach them.
Three officers were killed, said a police official at the scene who spoke on condition of anonymity because was not authorized to talk to the media. Police spokeswoman Diane Richard would only say that at least five officers were wounded, but wouldn't give any other details.
Friends identified the suspect as Richard Poplawski, 23, but police would not immediately confirm his name. The gunman was arrested after a four-hour standoff, police said.
The shooting occurred just two weeks after four police officers were fatally shot March 21 in Oakland, Calif., in the deadliest day for U.S. law enforcement since Sept. 11, 2001. The officers were the first Pittsburgh city officers to die in the line of duty in 18 years.
Neighbors said the shooting began at about 7 a.m. and that two officers were shot almost immediately.
"When I looked down I saw two police officers laying in the street," said Don Sand, who lives across the street and was awoken by the sound of gunfire.
A short time later, more officers, SWAT teams and other law enforcement arrived and a third officer was shot, Sand said.
"They couldn't get the scene secure enough to get to them. They were just lying there bleeding," Sand said. "By the time they secured the scene enough to get to them it was way too late."
Gail Moschetti, who lives diagonally across the street from the Poplawski house, said she heard hundreds of shots as she and her husband took refuge in their basement. Tom Moffitt, 51, a city firefighter who lives two blocks away, said he came to the scene and heard "hundreds, just hundreds of shots."
Police planned to release more details at a mid-afternoon news conference Saturday.
Edward Perkovic said Poplawski, his best friend, feared "the Obama gun ban that's on the way" and "didn't like our rights being infringed upon." Another longtime friend, Aaron Vire, said Poplawski feared that President Barack Obama was going to take away his rights, though he said he "wasn't violently against Obama."
Perkovic, 22, said he got a call at work from him in which he said, "Eddie, I am going to die today. ... Tell your family I love them and I love you."
Perkovic said: "I heard gunshots and he hung up. ... He sounded like he was in pain, like he got shot."
Vire, 23, said Poplawski once had an Internet talk show but that it wasn't successful. Vire said Poplawski had an AK-47 rifle and several powerful handguns, including a .357 Magnum.
Another friend, Joe DiMarco, said Poplawski had been laid off from his job at a glass factory earlier this year. DiMarco said he didn't know the name of the company, but knew his friend had been upset about losing his job.
The last Pittsburgh police officers killed in the line of duty were Officers Thomas L. Herron and Joseph J. Grill, according to a Web site that tracks police killings. They died after their patrol car collided with another vehicle while chasing a stolen car on March 6, 1991.
According to the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund, 133 law enforcement officers died in the line of duty in 2008, a 27 percent decrease from year before and the lowest annual total since 1960.
Poplawski had often fought with neighbors and had even gotten into fistfights with a couple, Sand said.
"This is a relatively really quiet neighborhood except for him," Sand said. "He was just one of those kids that we knew to stay clear from."
Rob Gift, 45, who lives a block away, said the well-kept single-family houses with manicured lawns are home to many police officers, firefighters, paramedics and other city workers.
"It's just a very quiet neighborhood," Gift said.
Associated Press writer Dan Nephin contributed to this report.
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It's real simple, the rich left control the major news agencies, and most of the media outlets, they dictate what stories are reported on and how, and which stories are ignored. People need to look and think outside the conventional information system.
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It's real simple, the rich left control the major news agencies, and most of the media outlets, they dictate what stories are reported on and how, and which stories are ignored. People need to look and think outside the conventional information system.
But how many have that much initiative ? The only thing we have in common with the anti's is the one trait neither group shares with the general population. An agenda that we are fighting for.
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All thought and prayers to the recent families and their victims.
I think the media has a lot to do with it. They focus on and preach doom and gloom. They focus on bad stuff stories, the economy in the tank, violence, including the recent shootings. A lot of the internet isn't any better. The perp probably thought he was at the end of his rope and with the spotlight on shootings in the media he did the copycat thing, made his statement, and got his moment of fame.
Of course the antis and the biased media will never let a tradgedy go wasted and will exploit the latest incidents to spotlight their agenda.
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All thought and prayers to the recent families and their victims.
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I think the media has a lot to do with it. They focus on and preach doom and gloom. They focus on bad stuff stories, the economy in the tank, violence, including the recent shootings. A lot of the internet isn't any better.
110% agree I blame them for most things if they even spent half the time and energy in focusing on the good things and talking up everything the economy would turn around
but no they can not do that they have to always say how bad everything is
Of course the antis and the biased media will never let a tradgedy go wasted and will exploit the latest incidents to spotlight their agenda.
not wrong, and watch for no mention of the families of the victims