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Member Section => Defense and Tactics => Topic started by: Rob Pincus on April 05, 2009, 06:46:48 PM
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I spent the weekend in Port St. Lucie, FL teaching CFS and it was a great time! My first "Range Tan" of the year is in place..... after 3 weeks in rainy Europe and a long winter, the sunny ranges were welcome!
Yesterday, I did a course for a group of law enforcement personnel after the Real Life Church Shootout, a "Appreciation Event" with a competition and lunch free to local LE offered by RLC. The chruch's pastor, Kurt Owen, happens to be a certified CFS Instructor and a big believer in LE, Security and self defense. The church covered some expenses and we offered a half day intro course to any attendees who wanted to stay.
Today, we had a small 1 day CFS Fundamentals course, which DRTV'r FullAuto attended, along with some others. It was a hot day in the sun, but we did a lot of good training and covered about 80% of the topics in the 2 day CFS course.... with fewer reps, of course! Hopefully, FA will post an AAR, but he probably doesn't surf the net while driving, like I do..... ;)
It looks like we'll be doing more training in this area.... the next opportunity will probably be in the fall.
-RJP
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Rob,
Last weekend here in St Petersburg they had a SWAT training at the Wyoming Antelope Club with SWAT teams fro all over the states. It is a new range that the club just built for this type of thing as well as Action Pistol and Cowboy.
Maybe you should check them out and do some training seminars here. (HINT HINT it is my club ;) ).
They spent around 100k on the new range.
http://www.antelopeclub.org/
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Maybe you should check them out and do some training seminars here. (HINT HINT it is my club ).
All that takes is someone to step up and be the Host (hint hint, email or PM for details ;))!
-RJP
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Very cool. Any chance you might come or have any plans to see the other coast of FL like near Daytona Beach?
Heck, even a social or vacation visit. I'll buy the refreshments and you bring the funny stories.
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Just drove through there..... on 10 now heading west....
My social calendar is pretty much dictated by the training calendar, but I may be doing an LE course in St. Augustine late this spring.
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Just drove through there..... on 10 now heading west....
My social calendar is pretty much dictated by the training calendar, but I may be doing an LE course in St. Augustine late this spring.
Rob,
I think what he is saying (I know I am) is "If'n yer close ya got a home". I think about the coolest vacation there could be would be to travel acrcoss these here United States going from DRTV member to DRTV member. Stay a night or two, do some shootin, drink a few beers and move on to the next. THAT would be SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO cool!
PegLeg (that old pirate) has invited me to hunt with him this fall and I will move heaven and earth to accomplish that. Right now it is one of the things that keeps me going!
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Rob,
I think what he is saying (I know I am) is "If'n yer close ya got a home". I think about the coolest vacation there could be would be to travel acrcoss these here United States going from DRTV member to DRTV member. Stay a night or two, do some shootin, drink a few beers and move on to the next. THAT would be SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO cool!
PegLeg (that old pirate) has invited me to hunt with him this fall and I will move heaven and earth to accomplish that. Right now it is one of the things that keeps me going!
Yes to all that!!
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Today, we had a small 1 day CFS Fundamentals course, which DRTV'r FullAuto attended, along with some others. It was a hot day in the sun, but we did a lot of good training and covered about 80% of the topics in the 2 day CFS course.... with fewer reps, of course! Hopefully, FA will post an AAR, but he probably doesn't surf the net while driving, like I do..... ;)
It looks like we'll be doing more training in this area.... the next opportunity will probably be in the fall.
-RJP
For those who read my earlier thread, I gave a general idea of what to expect from Rob when taking one of his courses. I'm going to elaborate a little more here for Rob so he can get my feedback on the course.
For Rob:
What I liked about the course:
- Explanations about why we do what we do.
- I liked the shooting-in-motion drills and figure-8 drill at the end.
- I think the quality of the course is enhanced when it is kept small (<= 10);ours was only four people. I realize the cost for the course could be higher but I believe it would be worth it though.
- The lectures about how we react in stressful situations was outstanding.
- Keep the balance of humor/professionalism. I appreciated the way you could joke with us and still make a point and get in our face if you thought we needed it. I was hoping I would be motivated and you did not disappoint!
Points to consider on enhancing the course:
- Provide students a copy of your book on CFS or an option to get one of your DVDs. For me, I have not read your book and would have liked to carry home a copy; but I will order one.
- Provide some supplemental materials when you arrive. These materials can be explanations that go more in depth to what you are teaching or give recommended drills for ranges that do not allow the types of exercises we performed; this segues into my next point.
- Some in the class commented that many of the exercises we performed could not be done on most ranges, thereby limiting the practicality of the course for them. I am blessed to have two ranges in my area where I can do the drills we performed, so it wasn't an issue for me. For the students where it is an issue, provide them some materials that shows them how to practice some of the exercises but will allow them to stay within the guidelines of restrictive ranges. I realize the range of restrictions is varied, so maybe talking to each one about what they can do would be good.
- When talking about competition shooting, please emphasize that what you teach may or may not have applicability to the competition world but has 100% applicability to the real world.
I know you mentioned doing an LE course in St. Augustine in late spring. I hope you can come back here (anywhere in FL) and do your CFS/APH course. I know you have good instructors, but there is nothing like getting it from the person who created and developed the material....
For everyone else:
If you can get a chance to take a course from him, do it while you can. I can sense that his career is about to go into the stratosphere and he will be extremely difficult to book. He mentioned that he is on the road over 300+ days per year and he wants to trim that down; can't blame him....He is one of the best instructors I have ever seen, in any discipline, for his age. He's a natural......
Oh I could not leave this out:
Two of the students brought Sig Sauer P226s to class and Rob told them the gun did not fit their hand and they should consider something else. Guess what his first suggestion was.....If you guessed a Glock, you would be correct....The man knows what works..... ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Great Feedback, FA.
Much Appreciated.... your suggestions for enhancement are certainly going to be factored in.
-RJP