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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: 1776 Rebel on April 06, 2009, 04:39:30 PM
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I suspect these guys were trying to be nominated for the next Darwin Awards....
just was watching Glenn Beck on Fox....a frequent guest he has had on is Marcus Luttrell. He is the Navy SEAL that survived the worst firefight in Afghanistan. Medal of honor to Lt. Mike Murphy that day. Marcus got the Navy Cross. Survived for a week on his own. Upwards of 200 Taliban killed in the firefight. Captured and tortured by the Taliban. Then saved by other Afghans.
Well Glenn Beck has him on his TV show just now. The other night some teenage punks come on to his ranch down in Texas where he stays with his mom. They shoot his pet dog. He grabs a gun and takes off after them...four counties later the cops pull the bad guys over...Luttrell wants to kill them. And they are laughing at him...Marcus is not a happy camper...More so these guys look like they are going to get a slap on the wrist. Texas WAKE UP ! Don't let that happen !!
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/23658/
http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=3669
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I suspect these guys were trying to be nominated for the next Darwin Awards....
just was watching Glenn Beck on Fox....a frequent guest he has had on is Marcus Luttrell. He is the Navy SEAL that survived the worst firefight in Afghanistan. Medal of honor to Lt. Mike Murphy that day. Marcus got the Navy Cross. Survived for a week on his own. Upwards of 200 Taliban killed in the firefight. Captured and tortured by the Taliban. Then saved by other Afghans.
Well Glenn Beck has him on his TV show just now. The other night some teenage punks come on to his ranch down in Texas where he stays with his mom. They shoot his pet dog. He grabs a gun and takes off after them...four counties later the cops pull the bad guys over...Luttrell wants to kill them. And they are laughing at him...Marcus is not a happy camper...More so these guys look like they are going to get a slap on the wrist. Texas WAKE UP ! Don't let that happen !!
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/23658/
http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=3669
Bastards, one and all.
They might not get what they deserve just now, but if they continue down the path they seem to have chosen for themselves then maybe, just maybe, they will get their due comeuppance.
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Theyre truly lucky Marcus didn't kill them.
You don't mess with a man's dog in Texas..especially if he's a Navy SEAL.
I can't honestly say I wouldn''t have shot them if it were me.
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They"punk ass kids" better hope they get more than just a slap on the wrist's. Being on Mr.Luttrell's bad side would not be a good thing.. >:(
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I'd suggest dropping it cause once word gets out at the local VFW or any other military organization, those kids will be toast. I think what would be best is to see if there is any way we on this forum could purchase that hero another dog!!! ;)
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I hope they get what's coming to them. Maybe the judge will throw the book at them. But, here again that's the world we live in. People will mess with you even if you don't do anything to cause it. Stupid punks.
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I would be willing to put $100 towards getting Mr. Luttrell a new dog. May not heal the pain right now but I am sure a new dog would over time!!!
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I'd suggest dropping it cause once word gets out at the local VFW or any other military organization, those kids will be toast. I think what would be best is to see if there is any way we on this forum could purchase that hero another dog!!! ;)
Ping great idea ! I am in for a 100. Maybe MB can reach out to Glenn Beck for making the arrangements ?
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Yep, we need to find someone to take the cash. Preferably someone down where Mr. Luttrel lives or contact the VFW or American Legion down in Texas. :) Glad to see this coming together.
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I sent a message to Marshall Halloway. I forgot to carbon copy to Michael Bane, Rob Pincus, Michael Janich and the rest of DRTV. When I tried to go back it did not allow me to forward the message. My suggestion still stands on buying this hero a new dog. I am still willing to give $100 for towards buying this veteran a new canine.
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Does anyone know what kind of dog he had??
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I think he said it was female Yellow Lab.
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Best bet is to resolve in a nonviolent means. They will get theirs in due time. I think the judge should order them to active duty service for at least four years. First years pay donated to Mr. Luttrell and his family for suffering!!! ;)
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Count me in for some $$'s.
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Sent a note to the American Kennel Club - Lab Club out of Granbury Texas. Asked them for the name of local breeders down there. Let's see what they come back with...
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I can help here. I am a quail hunter and pointer guy from way back. I was very lucky to have bought a puppy, and have it trained by a guy named Jarret Thompson out of Rosankey Tx. (about an hour S.E. of Austin). He is is pretty much universally recognized as one of the best shooting dog trainers in th US and a fine Christian genleman to boot. I will call him tonight, and while I can't afford $100 I wil go fifty, and I'm sure he'll be able to put us onto a serious Lab breeder. This guy deserves better than this. I am more than willing to do my part
Jay (no time for handles or bullshit on this one)
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There is $250. I paid $300 for my Belgian Malinois. Best dog I ever owned.....
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I'd go 50 with quake
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Just back me up. I think we have a good thing going here!!!. I just don't understand why people have no heart or have to ask someone where they are to direct their support. Sad and shameful. Have balls and stand up for yourself and your cause. Who cares if you win or lose, at least you played the game and did your part!!! And screw the sponsors!!! They are only in for themselves and not the support of the individual!!!
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Keep us posted on this, when they publish the names of these little thugs. We spread THAT around and the right folks will no who needs to disappear into a dumpster or desert or what ever.
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Allright, I've talked to two very high end pointer breeders and trainers. Both were as pissed as I was about the story. They're looking up the lab guys they know and will get back to me tomorrow. I'm in for fifty, and if we keep the pledges going we can make this happen. ;D
FQ13
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Keep us posted on this, when they publish the names of these little thugs. We spread THAT around and the right folks will no who needs to disappear into a dumpster or desert or what ever.
Let god take care of the revenge. You match my pledge of $50 for a new well bred lab and it'll do more good giving this guy what he deserves and showing him that he's appreciated.
FG13
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When we get more details on the cost of the dog, post it please. Will be willing to add in some money as well. Just depends on what is available to donate.
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Let god take care of the revenge. You match my pledge of $50 for a new well bred lab and it'll do more good giving this guy what he deserves and showing him that he's appreciated.
FG13
If I was working I would.
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A good pup can cost 1500 dollars... several thousand for a two year old... depends on the blood. The last thing he needs is a cheap nerve bag of a dog from the pound.
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A good pup can cost 1500 dollars... several thousand for a two year old... depends on the blood. The last thing he needs is a cheap nerve bag of a dog from the pound.
Understood and not an issue. As I learned the hard way its as easy to love a good dog as a bad one. The guys I called want $700 + for pups and a started dog is $1500 if they're iffy on it and a LOT more if they want to keep it. They understood what I wanted. I know that for reasons known but to god, labs (a fine but inferior breed ;D) tend to cost more than a pointer. But I still think if we all put up the price of two boxes of ammo, and get someone we all trust, like Michael or Pincus or M'lette to handle the money and know that its going to a reputable kennel, we can do something good here. I think we should appoint a spokesman, maybe Michael, maybe Pincus to convey the offer. The guy might not even want a new dog right now, but if he does, I will bust my ass to make sure he gets one.
FQ13
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I got a response back from the AKC last night...I thought it would be good to post it here for reference.
We are very distressed to hear that Mr. Luttrell lost his Labrador retriever in such a horrific way. We appreciate that you and others on the forum to which you subscribe are interested in helping Mr. Luttrell obtain a new Labrador retriever.
We have three sources for responsible breeders to be found in the state of Texas.
The first is the Labrador Retriever Club Breeders Directory. The Search page for the Directory is located at: http://www.thelabradorclub.com/subpages/find_breeder.php
Once on the Search page, on the right, in the box marked "Search for a Breeder" click on the arrow in the field marked "Select State". On the drop down menu which will appear, scroll to and using your cursor, point and click on Texas. The click on the Search button.
A page listing LRC member/breeders in Texas will appear. Each listing gives contact information, if available a link to the breeder's website, health clearances used for breeding stock, colors bred and Labrador-related activities in which the dogs bred by the breeder participate.
The second source of responsible breeders are the web sites of the two Labrador Retriever regional clubs in Texas.
The Dallas-Ft.Worth Labrador Club lists its member/breeders on their website at:
http://www.dfwlrc.org/ Once on the home page, on the menu at the left of the page, click on "DFWLRC Membership Listings". This produce a listing of the active member/breeders of the club. Those members whose kennel name at the top of each listing is shown in dark blue have a link to their website. Just click on the kennel name to activate the link. Those which do not have a web site do list their USPS mailing address, telephone number and email address.
The Heart Of Texas Labrador Retriever Club lists available litters and older Labrador retrievers on their website at http://www.hotlrc.com/breeder-listing.html
Each listing gives the contact information for the breeder/owner of the listed litters or dogs.
Before contacting breeders, we strongly urge you to contact Mr. Luttrell and explain what you would like to do for him. For most people, selecting a dog is as personal as selecting ones future wife or husband. Mr. Luttrell may have want a dog bred for a specific function and he may have a preferred breeder already in mind, perhaps the breeder of the dog he lost. Or he may not be ready to replace the Labrador he has lost. So, contact him before going any further.
We hope we have been of assistance to you.
Thank you for writing to the Labrador Retriever Club, Inc.
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Sad story indeed...
I like where this is going, and I'd be willing to donate a few dollars. Keep us updated on the situation. Hopefully we can help him out.
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I'm in as well and I've got Tom covered for a few bucks too!
Keep us posted....after all, he IS a squid...how can I say no!
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I'm in for a few bucks. Just let me know.
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I'm in "For a Few Dollars More" as well. 8) I think I can find a little anyway. I think this is a good deal for us to try and get done.
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Saw this on another forum:
http://www.fundable.com/groupactions/groupaction.2009-04-07.6226024595
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Sorry I haven't commented on this yet guys.. Marshal is gone to Arizona for the week so I am a bit behind..I have received several pms concerning this .( all good of course) and Marshal and I will help out too. Monetary and I will be glad to hold the money or do whatever it takes. Someone needs to find a way to call M. Luttrell and talk to him. with our $$ from Down Range..and the other donations , he maybe would want to combine the money and pick out and find his own dog. * I would if I was in his shoes*
I will be talking to Marshal and Michael this evening. ..and see maybe if they can contact him (If you all want that) or Rebel.. Ping.. fighting quaker .. one of you can call him yourself if you want to and discuss it..
I think it is a wonderful idea...
You might want to contact the person or persons behind the other site that is wanting donations also.. find out if they have talked to him and what their thoughts are. Partnering up might be a good thing in this case.
just my thoughts....
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I sent a email out to Glenn Beck earlier asking for his assistance in contacting Luttrell. He seems to have a relationship with him and might be able to help in getting our offer across. I'll post if I get anything back.
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I sent an email to Glenn Beck yesterday after this was suggested. Hopefully he will get back to one of us.
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M'Ette is right about talking to Marcus about a dog. He may not want one at this time, and if he does, he may want to pick it out.
I wish Marcus the best and thank him for his service. He sounds like quite a remarkable person. My prayers are with him.
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....Marshal is gone to Arizona for the week ....
Sooooo......yer all alone little girl? (http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/cool/cool-smiley-030.gif)
I got a bottle of GOOD Tequila for my b'day and some little chickie poo sent me a flask a while back. ;)
Wanna party? (http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/teufel/devil-smiley-041.gif)
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Heard the story on Beck, and came to the realization the God works in mysterious ways, as these scumbags would be maggot food. The restraint shown was amazing.
I'm in for a contribution, but as others have posted, Marcus may not want another dog right now. The name of the dog, and what it meant to him will have to be dealt with by someone who can talk to him.
Is there anyway we can leak this info to the prison these dirtbags are going to,, lots of dog owners in prison,,.... convicts don;t like it when stupid punks just randomly kill one.
Could be some "in-house" justice.......
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I'm embarrassed to have been living under a rock since 2005. I have not heard of Marcus and his incredible experience.
The fact some dueche bags killed his companion is a slap in the face. >:( I believe Marcus employed great restraint in not killing these scum bags.
Count me in for a donation!
Its the least we can do.
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Sooooo......yer all alone little girl? (http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/cool/cool-smiley-030.gif)
I got a bottle of GOOD Tequila for my b'day and some little chickie poo sent me a flask a while back. ;)
Wanna party? (http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/teufel/devil-smiley-041.gif)
You are a total mess!!!! But one that makes me laugh out loud..
You continue to be a bright spot in this forum... ( even if the comment was soooo totally inappropriate on this thread.. ::) )
***shaking my head and laughing....... ;D***
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oh ... and contacting Glen Beck is a fabulous idea...
You guys are sooooo The Best!
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Just noticed the new avatar Marshal'ette! Big smile with an adult beverage. ;D
Spring is in the air....... ;)
I hope we can get this SEAL a DOG!
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John Z posted this : Saw this on another forum:
http://www.fundable.com/groupactions/groupaction.2009-04-07.6226024595
I just contributed money on this site. Looks as though others had the same idea. Thanks for posting this John. They have collected over $1,600 after my donation. Hope it all goes to him and he finds another good dog.
Thanks for backing this guys and gals. Take care, Ping
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Hey y'all, keep me in mind. I can give something!
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so are we all deciding to give to that site? That is fine with me.,. as long as he gets the money for his pooch..
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I reckon so. You can check it out first and they accept Paypal so that made me feel a little better about it. :)
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Not me Sugar. The only good guys I know are on this board.
May be wrong, but that is how I feel.
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uuhhhmmmmm... I went into their forum board...
http://messageboard.tuckermax.com/showthread.php?t=26133
I'm not being snippy or anything..
and I 1,000% believe in the cause.... but I think I will try to find another way to donate.
If you get a response out of Glen Beck on contacting Luttrell.. and if anyone on Down Range is still wanting to donate..
I'll be glad to take the $$ and make sure he gets it from you all.
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I'll stick with what I know and I'm getting to know DRTV, I trust Teresa and Marshal, MB and the boys...keep us posted.
Being a dog owner, there is more cost to an owner after the initial purchase, I'm sure he could use whatever we come up with.
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I'm watching this Thread closely and as soon as we have a place to send some money let me know. I'll be glad to donate but I'm with HAZ on this. Pretty sure I can trust the M's
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I am not knocking the other group, but 1. I don't know who is getting the money and what board they are with and 2. I feel like the other posts and TRUST the DRTV folks.
I will say that this fundable.com site is interesting. Maybe us at DRTV can use it either now or in the future for such things as this. Looks like a nice consolidated way to put the funds together. If anyone has experience positive or negative with the site, that would be appreciated.
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The site itself is legit.. I didn't mean anything by that part.. I'll probably look into it some more...
And I am no goody 2 shoes.. FAR FAR from it.. but .. I was talking about the forum ...
I thought for a public forum the posts were a bit on the foul side.
That much rotten language shouldn't..in my opinion.. be on a public board ( or one that wants any respect attached to it)
I mean my mouth isn't clean by any means.. but at last I know where I can use some terms and where I shouldn't..
I'm actually floundering here... so I'll just shut up.. LOL
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I'm with Marshal'ette here (who's minding the DRTV store while Marshal and I are at GUNSITE playing with guns).
I have a bunch of time next week, and let me see what we can put together on this...
Michael B
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Take the lead, MB. We'll wait to hear from you!
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Keep us posted on this, when they publish the names of these little thugs. We spread THAT around and the right folks will no who needs to disappear into a dumpster or desert or what ever.
Bogey,
Your gonna get me choked up man! I love the vigilante justice system too! Eye for an eye. It's the f*#kin they get, for the f*#kin they gave.
I need a tissue! I get alittle choked up talking bout vigilante justice.
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John Z posted this : Saw this on another forum:
http://www.fundable.com/groupactions/groupaction.2009-04-07.6226024595
I just contributed money on this site. Looks as though others had the same idea. Thanks for posting this John. They have collected over $1,600 after my donation. Hope it all goes to him and he finds another good dog.
Thanks for backing this guys and gals. Take care, Ping
No problem. I just want to do what I can for him. Looks like it's at over $2,200 now.
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I'm with Marshal'ette here (who's minding the DRTV store while Marshal and I are at GUNSITE playing with guns).
I have a bunch of time next week, and let me see what we can put together on this...
Michael B
;D a BUNCH OF TIME.......... ;D no he doesn't..So that got a chuckle out of me.. Time is something that man never has any of.. but...I know if he said he will make time ..then he will... :)
It would be great to see what can be done from Down Range.. I did look into that site for use for fundraisers.. Secure and looks to be fairly easy to use.... but they take 10% for their fee.. Stands to reason that they have to have something.. but I would rather ALL the money we collect go to the source for which it is collected from.
We will see what contacts Michael can make.. and go from there.
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I'm with Marshal'ette here (who's minding the DRTV store while Marshal and I are at GUNSITE playing with guns).
I have a bunch of time next week, and let me see what we can put together on this...
Michael B
I'm sure I speak for all us when I say thanks. Looking forward to it.
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I`m definately in too let me know when to send the donation.Is he the seal who was just on the jim zumbo show?
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Yup that was him. I think that was taped a year or so ago. If you saw his face was still all swollen and his jaw wasn't working too good. He looks much better now. I heard that he might be on the Glenn Beck show this evening at 5pm EST on Fox channel. He was on the radio this morning with Beck. I can't even imagine the mental state he is in after all he's been through. He was in that horrific firefight only 3 years ago.
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People need to leave that man alone for the rest of his life he deserves that
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I gave to the other site but I will still donate to the DRTV site. And I agree with Haz that I trust the people on here and have no idea of who is running the other site. Let me know where to send the $$$ to. ;)
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I'm with Marshal'ette here (who's minding the DRTV store while Marshal and I are at GUNSITE playing with guns).
I have a bunch of time next week, and let me see what we can put together on this...
Michael B
MB knows the circle of people who can make contacts and help make this happen. I'm standing pat.
Looks like a lot of willing souls here....maybe a dog and a gun?
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I had mentioned earlier that I'd sent an email to Glenn Beck a couple of days ago. I received a reply this morning. The following is the note sent and the reply..
Mr. Beck,
I frequent a web site whose members of the forum wish to help out Mr. Luttrell with a direct monetary contribution so that he can replace his dog. We want to respect his privacy of course and wouldn't want to impose on him. We honor his service and this is just a small token of our appreciation. We are wondering if you would be able to act as a conduit to Mr. Luttrell to inform him of this. Any help you could extend would be appreciated.
The website is run by the Outdoor Channel and Michael Bane who is a producer and host of firearms related shows on the channel (Shooting Gallery, Cowboys, The Best Defense).
This is the thread on the forum:
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php/topic,6042.msg72707/topicseen.html#msg72707
The reply today:
Thanks for the offer but many breeders have offered Marcus a puppy when he is ready.
Pb
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The 911 tapes have been released of Marcus Luttell in pursuit of the BGs who shot his dog. It is a very interesting to listen too. I would NOT want this guy on tail :)
http://mfile.akamai.com/6713/wma/glennbeck.download.akamai.com/6713/preview/09/04/040909marcus911.asx
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Update from the Houston Chronicle yesterday.
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Survivor of war loses dog to random violence
Beloved pet's killing reopens old wounds for former Navy SEAL
By DANE SCHILLER
Copyright 2009 Houston Chronicle
April 8, 2009, 10:03PM
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Marcus Luttrell
Dasy, a Lab, was shot April 1 at age 4.
Share Print Email Del.icio.usDiggTechnoratiYahoo! BuzzFacebookAll it took was the gunshot fired outside his Walker County home to trigger training ingrained in former Navy SEAL Marcus Luttrell, the lone survivor of a dramatic battle in Afghanistan in 2005.
He did a sweep through the house. Checked on his mother. And bolted out the door, where he found dead his beloved Labrador retriever, Dasy, a dog given to him to help him recover from his own wounds and the loss of his fellow Navy comrades.
“I could tell she tried to get away because there was a blood trail,” Luttrell recalled in a phone interview Wednesday. “When I saw she was dead, the only thing that popped into my head was, ‘I’ve got to take these guys out.’ ”
Shrouded in darkness, Luttrell, who’d just been released from the hospital after another round of surgery, crawled under a fence, skirted a ditch and sneaked up on four strangers in a sedan who apparently killed the dog on a whim. Luttrell said they were oblivious as he raised a 9 mm pistol from about 25 yards away and had one of them dead to rights.
But as the car pulled away, he didn’t fire.
Instead, he scrambled back to his pickup and launched what became a wild 40-mile chase that reached speeds of over 100 mph and crossed three counties.
“I did everything right; I didn’t do anything wrong,” he told the Houston Chronicle of the April 1 incident. “Make sure everyone knows they cold-bloodily murdered.”
Luttrell stayed on the line with a 911 emergency operator as he tried to catch the car, which was just a bit too fast for his four-door truck to overtake.
“I told them, ‘You need to get somebody out here because if I catch them I’m going to kill them,’ ” Luttrell recalled telling the operator.
Wounds still deep
The nighttime killing of a such a special dog played right into Luttrell’s deep wounds.
The 4-year-old yellow Lab was given to him upon his return from the war to help him heal. He named it Dasy as an acronym for his SEAL team members lost in a mighty fight in which they were isolated and far outnumbered by Taliban fighters.
He wrote a book, The Lone Survivor, about the experience.
Luttrell said he still wrestles with what he went through. He doesn’t sleep at night, usually keeping his guard up until sunrise, just in case.
“I don’t talk about it much. I just don’t sleep at night,” he said. “I am in and out of the house all night, going, moving around.”
Luttrell and the men he was chasing were finally stopped by Onalaska Police Department.
Luttrell said he confronted the men. “I was like, ‘Which one of you guys killed my dog?’ ” he said. “They started talking smack.”
The police sent Luttrell home, and the Texas Rangers have been working with the Walker County Sheriff’s Department.
So far, two men have been charged with felonies that could land them in state jail for at least six months.
Michael John Edmonds II, 21, and Alfonzo Hernandez, 24, both of New Waverly, are charged with cruelty to nonlivestock animals. The driver of the vehicle was arrested on suspicion of not having a license.
Other dog killings linked
There are at least five area dog killings in recent months that could be linked to the case, said Texas Ranger Steven Jeter.
“It could have been worse for both parties involved,” he said. “I wouldn’t advocate to the general public to do what he has done — to follow them at that rate of speed.”
“Marcus is trained to do certain things; he fell back on his training,” Jeter said.
Luttrell said he’s left town for now and wants to stay as far away as he can. Talking from a place he described as “the middle of nowhere,” Luttrell said he knows the attack on Dasy pushed him to a place where he doesn’t want to be.
“I was trying to talk myself out of being who I am,” he said. “Talking to myself about not doing the one thing I am good at.”
dane.schiller@chron.com
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We still need to remember this good man is in a bad place, emotionally, right now and we need to keep him in our prayers.
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We still need to remember this good man is in a bad place, emotionally, right now and we need to keep him in our prayers.
Amen to that, Peg.
Luttrell said he’s left town for now and wants to stay as far away as he can. Talking from a place he described as “the middle of nowhere,” Luttrell said he knows the attack on Dasy pushed him to a place where he doesn’t want to be.
“I was trying to talk myself out of being who I am,” he said. “Talking to myself about not doing the one thing I am good at.”
Seems to me he considers himself to be a 'killer'. That is not good. Damn the 'blame America first' people in this country that have helped him feel this way!
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Amen to that, Peg.
Seems to me he considers himself to be a 'killer'. That is not good. Damn the 'blame America first' people in this country that have helped him feel this way!
I'm not sure this is only them. My moms' roofer was talking about his son in law was reupping for another hitch after 2 tours in Iraq., despite his daughter's objections. The rationale,"It's all I know how to do". I don' think is the same as vietnam because even the peaceniks are pro-troop. Its just that extended deployments, no real lines, constant danger etc, make it real hard to adjust to normal. We ask way too much of these folks.
FQ13
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Good he didn't act on his thoughts. It would have been tragic and he would have ended up in prison. Hope he gets to a place of peace and he can put away what he left in the war..
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Good he didn't act on his thoughts. It would have been tragic and he would have ended up in prison. Hope he gets to a place of peace and he can put away what he left in the war..
Amen
FQ13
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Glen Beck reported yesterday that he had trouble getting in touch with Mr. Lattrell. GB did finally get in touch with him, but Mr. Lattrell told him that he just needed to get away and had turned his phone off.
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On this Easter weekend, as my family and I go to church, I will pray for his health, for his peace and well being. And I will thank him, and all the men and women who have served this country so honorably. I hope that they all find some measure of peace and feel the respect and thankfulness of their fellow countrymen.
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Everybody's taking up a collection to get Marcus a new dog...personally I think he needs a faster vehicle!!! How about a Dodge 3/4 ton 4X4 Cummins with the max quadzilla chip, approximately 800 horsepower and as many foot-pounds of torque...and "oops, I'm sorry...brakes didn't work!!!"