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Title: New 1911..now with range report...and new grips!
Post by: CJS3 on April 08, 2009, 10:16:34 PM
I've been selling off some of my rifles over the last two weeks and decided to buy another 1911. Instead of blowing all my earnings on a high dollar 1911, I decided I'd get a RIA or another Taurus 1911. What I finally ended up with was an API Citadel 1911. Slightly more expensive than the RIA and about 75 dollars less than the Taurus with the tac rails (I couldn't find any without). I'll get to the range this week and write a report.
Title: Re: New 1911
Post by: PegLeg45 on April 08, 2009, 10:47:08 PM
Very nice lookin' slab-sides you got there.
Title: Re: New 1911
Post by: Ping on April 08, 2009, 10:49:32 PM
Sharp looking. My buddy had a Llama and let me shoot it. Fired like a dream and was deadly accurate. Hate the high prices of 1911's. Such a bummer.
Title: Re: New 1911
Post by: Dakotaranger on April 08, 2009, 11:15:16 PM
Never heard of that make, but it is a great looking pistol
Title: Re: New 1911
Post by: MAUSERMAN on April 08, 2009, 11:52:16 PM
Please let us know how she shoots. I just finished working on mine and she needs a trial by fire soon. New wilson beavertail,speed hammer, and xs big dot sight.
Title: Re: New 1911
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 09, 2009, 10:01:12 AM
I'm guessing, because I could not find any info, but I think it is from American Pistol Institute. (It LOOKS like their logo) the forerunner of Gunsite, founded by Col. Jeff Cooper.
If it is, you probably got a deal.
Title: Re: New 1911
Post by: CJS3 on April 09, 2009, 08:20:50 PM
I'm guessing, because I could not find any info, but I think it is from American Pistol Institute. (It LOOKS like their logo) the forerunner of Gunsite, founded by Col. Jeff Cooper.
If it is, you probably got a deal.

It's stamped AP Int. The dealer I bought it from said they are made by ARMSCOR, in the Phillippines.
Title: Re: New 1911
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 09, 2009, 10:38:09 PM
Probably the same as the RIA then, yes, VERY good gun.
Title: Re: New 1911
Post by: CJS3 on April 12, 2009, 11:45:29 AM
Range report

The Citadel was very easy to shoot with the flat trigger breaking very crisply. I had wondered about how it would feel compared to the curved triggers of my other 1911's, but I really couldn't tell a difference after I started shooting.

I took several types of reloads (my main ammo source) and about two mags worth of Hornady XTP 230gr +P ammo that I use for self defense. The first 2 mags were 230gr lead round nose. The first mag had no problems, but about 5 rounds in to the 2nd mag, the pistol failed to lock into battery. I just pushed the slide closed with my thumb and kept firing

The second group of bullets were reloads using Berry's plated 200gr flat point conical bullets. I had 3 or 4 failures to go into battery with these bullets. Each time, all I had to do to fix the failure was to close the action with a push of my thumb.

The factory ammo was perfect, no failures of any kind.

The two 8 rd mags that came with the pistol are marked "ACT-MAG" and are made in Italy. They are identical to the MECGAR mags that I bought for a 1911 that I gave to my oldest son Last year. The operation was good except for the previously mentioned failures, but I think those were ammo related. I did notice that GI magazines that I took would not lock the slide open on the last shot. The Wilson and CMC mags that I took along also worked perfectly.

Ejection was positive and consistant with all the cases landing between 10 and 15 ft to the right and slightly behind me. I was able to recover all the brass from the ammo I took with me.

POI was about 4 inches below POA. I don't know if this is due to a needed break in period or the front site needs adjustment. I'll just have to shoot it more to make that determination. The pistol grouped very well for two handed shooting at 10 yards.

All in all I think I got my money's worth.
Title: Re: New 1911
Post by: Hazcat on April 12, 2009, 11:57:42 AM
Nice report.  Seems like you got a good deal for monies paid.  As far as the ftf (battery) maybe a little feed ramp polish?

Also I have found that many fixed sight guns shoot low.  I guess it is to give you room to set (file) the front sight to your liking.
Title: Re: New 1911..........now with range report
Post by: MAUSERMAN on April 12, 2009, 11:41:57 PM
Hell i might be looking for one of those. Haz please dont raz be about wanting a 1911 I do own one and changed my sights due to shooting low.
Title: Re: New 1911..now with range report...and new grips!
Post by: CJS3 on April 22, 2009, 07:47:01 PM
I got these from the Gun Grip Guys. Bocote Bookmatched, is the model name, $24 including shipping. What do you think?

http://www.gungripguys.com/
Title: Re: New 1911..now with range report...and new grips!
Post by: Timothy on April 22, 2009, 07:53:20 PM
Great look and great price...were they already trimmed for the ambi-thumb safety?

My Wilson slimlines were nearly 80 bucks....maybe I should have shopped around a little more..

Title: Re: New 1911..now with range report...and new grips!
Post by: Hazcat on April 22, 2009, 07:57:06 PM
PURRRRRRTY!  The dark grain really looks good with the dark frame.

$24.00 !  THAT'S A STEAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: New 1911..now with range report...and new grips!
Post by: CJS3 on April 22, 2009, 08:09:37 PM
Great look and great price...were they already trimmed for the ambi-thumb safety?

My Wilson slimlines were nearly 80 bucks....maybe I should have shopped around a little more..



I had to dremel/sand for the extended safety lever. If you order from these guys, one of the options is for the "Taurus Cut". that would have saved me the trouble.
Title: Re: New 1911..now with range report...and new grips!
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 23, 2009, 12:55:14 AM
NICE GRIPS !
Title: Re: New 1911..now with range report...and new grips!
Post by: PegLeg45 on April 23, 2009, 11:18:51 AM
Very nice grips....and thanks for putting the link in.....they are now bookmarked in my favorites and will get some business when I scratch up some extra dough.
Title: Re: New 1911..now with range report...and new grips!
Post by: Ping on April 23, 2009, 06:31:36 PM
Love those grips. Gun show this weekend in town. Got an itch to buy my first 1911.
Title: Re: New 1911..now with range report...and new grips!
Post by: twyacht on April 23, 2009, 07:31:52 PM
Love those grips!

Thank you.

Title: Re: New 1911..now with range report...and new grips!
Post by: jaybet on April 30, 2009, 03:22:30 PM
I got these from the Gun Grip Guys. Bocote Bookmatched, is the model name, $24 including shipping. What do you think?

http://www.gungripguys.com/
WOW!!! What a great price too!
Title: Re: New 1911..now with range report...and new grips!
Post by: onrecess on July 24, 2009, 05:25:24 PM
What do I think??? Well, I just bought the same for my 1911. I'll tell my wife it's YOUR fault! ;D