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Member Section => Defense and Tactics => Topic started by: cidd11 on April 09, 2009, 03:50:51 PM
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Dynamic Research Technologies { DRT }
http://www.drtammo.com/
What do you think of this ammo? Will this ammo work like they say on there web sight? Will it stop an intruder without passing through into other rooms in the house?
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There's another company out there who makers simlar claims, Extreme Shock. (Not the most jury friendly name out there. How about scallawags-be-gone, has a better ring to it ;)). Anway same deal, frangible tungsten easy on the furniture etc. If Rob or any body out there is reading I'd be curious because I live in a VERY closely packed subdivision. http://www.extremeshockammo.net/tactical.asp
fightingquaker13
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Got a link?
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Here is a link for you:
http://drtammo.com/
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I asked Rob Pincus about this in one of my first posts on DRTV and here is his reply:
Ping,
The claims made about this ammo are definitely intriguing. I haven't tested it myself and have no reason to doubt the claims of the manufacturers. I spoke with them at length at SHOT and hope to work out some first hand testing this year some time. If I get the chance to do it, I would certainly document and share the results in one form or another (article, Blog, TBD, etc....)
Thanks for watching.
-RJP
I forgot to get back with Rob to see if he was able to check it out.
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Dynamic Research Technologies { DRT }
What do you think of this ammo? Will this ammo work like they say on there web sight? Will it stop an intruder without passing through into other rooms in the house?
Buy some in 9mm and test them out. Let us know the results. It would be great if they live up to the marketing.
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Buy some in 9mm and test them out. Let us know the results. It would be great if they live up to the marketing.
DRT didn't post prices on their site but Extreme Shock wants the modest price $80 per 20. Maybe chip in and send to someone whos set up to test them like boxotruth? Cause I'm gonna assume they'll shoot staight, just not what happens when they hit the water jugs and the dry wall. I'm not equipped to test that (though it would be fun).
FQ13
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DRT didn't post prices on their site
They have prices click around for them. $49.50 for a box of 50 in 9mm...out of stock wouldn't you know.
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They do sell DRT at Cheaper than Dirt. Still expensive.
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Apparently, DRT means something entirely different to me. ;D
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No stats on their web site other then bullet weight.
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Dynamic Research Technologies { DRT }
http://www.drtammo.com/
What do you think of this ammo? Will this ammo work like they say on there web sight? Will it stop an intruder without passing through into other rooms in the house?
I saw a clip of the .mil version on futureweapons or some such cool show, it would act like armor piercing in inanimate object and would powder only when it hit organic matter or gel. :o
I would think it would act like ball when going through drywall. So the original rule still applies: DON'T MISS.
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Here is a website that did some tests with Extreme Shock Ammo. This might help you make a decision.
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot23.htm (http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot23.htm)
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The Box of Truth info was very interesting. At the risk of hijacking this thread but expanding our knowledge of speciality defense ammo, how about RBCD ammo?
Here is the link. It is also exspensive and I while I have some in my possession, 9mm and 38 spec for my J frame, I have yet to shoot it. It reportedly has high propensity for heavy tissue damage with little if any over penetration. Light weight, high velocity, high energy.
http://www.rbcd.net/Personal%20Defense-%20Ammo.htm
Anyone with any experience with this RBCD ammo?
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The Box of Truth info was very interesting. At the risk of hijacking this thread but expanding our knowledge of speciality defense ammo, how about RBCD ammo?
Here is the link. It is also exspensive and I while I have some in my possession, 9mm and 38 spec for my J frame, I have yet to shoot it. It reportedly has high propensity for heavy tissue damage with little if any over penetration. Light weight, high velocity, high energy.
http://www.rbcd.net/Personal%20Defense-%20Ammo.htm
Anyone with any experience with this RBCD ammo?
Well, if you're inclined to believe the Box O' Truth, then they have the answer for you.
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot38.htm
I'm not entirely convince that water jugs, even with a special equation for ballastics gel, can replace actual ballistics gelatin testing. I realize they must have a tiny buget and BG is expensive and difficult to work with, but I'd rather rely on BG info over water jug testing for my personal defense needs.
That being said, I have no ability to test terminal performance for myself, so I'd rather have water jug testing from an unbiased source (so it would seem) then factory claims of BG testing I can't verify.
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I believe the original question was about DRT ammo, and to that, there should be some video footage from this year's SHOT show in Orlando where they were doing demos on steel plates from about 10 yds to point blank range. It was pretty impressive with the steel. They didn't do a show and tell, to my knowledge, with drywall or other less-than-steel-dense materials.
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Still there http://www.downrange.tv/videos/shotshow2009.htm (http://www.downrange.tv/videos/shotshow2009.htm) and scroll down to DRT and wah lah.
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Absolutely incredible. That video explains why the price is so high. Well worth it. Thanks Brosmetal
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Frangible ammo works as advertised, unless your opponent is shooting at you from behind a barricade, a wall, a door, or car windshield. Don't always assume the gunfight you get into will be like the one you think it will be. Bad guys have a nasty habit of doing the unexpected.
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Impressive results for DRT.....I'd like to see what their handgun loads can do....
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The skipping rounds would obviously make a nasty wound, but my question would be whether sufficient penetration to be lethal occurred. I would have liked to see that test using the ballistic gelatin rather than the IDPA cardboard target.
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The skipping rounds would obviously make a nasty wound, but my question would be whether sufficient penetration to be lethal occurred. I would have liked to see that test using the ballistic gelatin rather than the IDPA cardboard target.
My guess is that it would not make a lethal wound if you skipped a round in the BG's foot. You'll make 'em bleed though, and that's always useful.
I also would be interested to see ballistic gelatin testing for the round that went through the car door and then hit the target. It clearly broke up throught the door and hit the target--but it may not have been a lethal hit.
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I was at Gander Mountian today and watched a guy pick up 6 boxes of DRT to purchase in 9mm. One box was $69.99. I could not believe my eyes.
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Is this the same manufacturing principal that 12 Ga. "Breacher" rounds are made? Bill T.