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Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: Galeth005 on April 09, 2009, 05:56:22 PM
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ok so here is the story, i pulled out my sr9 the other day just to plink with it and have an old box of federal premium 124 grain hydro shock bullets i bought about a year ago and figured meh, lets try the accuracy on these. well i loaded up my mags at the range.. chambered a round and something just felt "funny" about how the round went it. so i pulled it out and the bullet was pushed down into the casing, well i figured ok fluke, so i chambered another round and then dropped the magazine again and racked the slide to pop out the bullet. well this one was worse than the first. now my question is... what is going on here? is it the bullets since their old? i mean they are 1 year old and are my usual home defense box, is it the gun? i know alot of people hate the sr9 but this is the first issue i've had, is it the magazine? i did load the magazine to max capacity (17 fyi) should i call ruger? i really dont know what to do or how this happened...
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Did ya try them in any other gun?
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I've personally never seen that occure in any auto loader. It appears that the round is slamming against the feed ramp and jamming the bullet. Good thing you didn't squeeze one off.
I would think, in my less than professional opinion, that it's the gun. I think that Federal HS is really well made ammunition and I've shot thousands of rounds from an autoloading pistol over the years and never seen that...I've shot ammo that was military ball that was set up in 1957 and it worked fine in 1978. We did have a couple of poofers but they all fed properly...
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Did ya try them in any other gun?
yes ive used them in a glock 26. however i only maybe cycled 5 rounds through the glock as i use Remington gold sabers 147 grain in my g26. the federal is the round i use in the sr9. my other 9mm's i use Remington gold sabers
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Gale,
If ya tried the same rounds from the same box in thother gun and had no problems then it HAS to be the gun.
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ok.. NOW i feel stupid... so lets continue the question, what should i do???
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I would contact Ruger. It seems that something is misaligned.
Also if they say send it back I would try to send some of this ammo with it.
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I would contact Ruger. It seems that something is misaligned.
Also if they say send it back I would try to send some of this ammo with it.
well throughout this entire time I've racked about 20 more rounds through it.. just sliding back and such and hasn't happened again.. Ive tried full mags, partially full mags, pulling the slide all the way back and releasing, hitting the slide release button.. and not one issue... either way i'm gonna use your advice and give them a call see what they say... I really like this gun since it was my first handgun purchase ever, since then Ive purchased 11 other pistols. sold 4 of the 12 I've brought back to the gun store for various reasons.
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It could also be the ammo, they could have not been fully crimped. whats the overall length of the ammo? ( both)
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I recently helped someone use up some "old, probably corrosive, -what do you think?" ammo. The rounds I looked at were stamped 42 & 43. I knew that there was a bunch of surplus returned from Russia a few years back, so I thought it was probably some of that. When I went through the fired brass there was a large number of "18" stamps. As in 1918! 100% functional.
Probably used up some collectible ammo, but as my brother used to say about money, "If they wanted you to carry it around all your life, they should have put handles on it."
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I'd do 2 things, 1st ones easy, take 4 or 5 of those rounds and push them against some wood, like a work table, at the bullet nose, push hard but only with hand pressure and see if the bullets move, if they do, bad crimp from the factory. If you only have 50, hell push them all.
2nd, remove the barrel and try the bullet fit in the chamber, should go very easy, sit flush, and come out easy.
Another thing would be to examine those rounds that did push back under a magnifying glass and see if there any obvious impact marks, at the nose, and around the sides at the ogive. If there are even marks around the sides, there may not be any lead cut into the rifling, and the rifling could be catching the bullet and pushing it back. Since this happening on loading, I'm betting you can push the bullets in by hand.
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ok guys thanks for the advice... end result.... pushed the bullets out of 20 rounds 8 of them were capable of being pushed in by hand i went into the back yard and fired all of them off... thats just unacceptable. not that federal hydro is a bad company i'm not bad mouthing them and will continue to buy their products.
another happy ending thanks to the guru's at downrange.tv
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ok guys thanks for the advice... end result.... pushed the bullets out of 20 rounds 8 of them were capable of being pushed in by hand i went into the back yard and fired all of them off... thats just unacceptable. not that federal hydro is a bad company i'm not bad mouthing them and will continue to buy their products.
another happy ending thanks to the guru's at downrange.tv
don't do that... the smaller case volume can increase presure, maybe to teh point where its boom, not bang.
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I too got a box of fed hydo shock in 380 do the same thing. If I remember correctly there may have been a recall on bad batches of ammo about 4 or 5yrs ago. I thought my beretta 85 was the problem but but the guys at ammo bros fixed my problem and found the ammo to be defective. Always check ammo no matter what brand you buy factory ammo isnt perfect.
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You found the problem, and fixed it but I will mimic Tab here, I would not have fired them, pressure does increase to possibly dangerous levels. Done is done, but don't do it any more OK.