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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: Rastus on April 14, 2009, 01:00:06 PM
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http://governor.state.tx.us/news/press-release/12227/ (http://governor.state.tx.us/news/press-release/12227/)
Gov. Perry Backs Resolution Affirming Texas’ Sovereignty Under 10th Amendment
HCR 50 Reiterates Texas’ Rights Over Powers Not Otherwise Granted to Federal Government
April 09, 2009
*NOTE: If you're having trouble watching this due to high server traffic, you can watch Gov. Perry's speech here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LHrIxc-QyE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LHrIxc-QyE)
AUSTIN – Gov. Rick Perry today joined state Rep. Brandon Creighton and sponsors of House Concurrent Resolution (HCR) 50 in support of states’ rights under the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
“I believe that our federal government has become oppressive in its size, its intrusion into the lives of our citizens, and its interference with the affairs of our state,” Gov. Perry said. “That is why I am here today to express my unwavering support for efforts all across our country to reaffirm the states’ rights affirmed by the Tenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. I believe that returning to the letter and spirit of the U.S. Constitution and its essential 10th Amendment will free our state from undue regulations, and ultimately strengthen our Union.”
A number of recent federal proposals are not within the scope of the federal government’s constitutionally designated powers and impede the states’ right to govern themselves. HCR 50 affirms that Texas claims sovereignty under the 10th Amendment over all powers not otherwise granted to the federal government.
It also designates that all compulsory federal legislation that requires states to comply under threat of civil or criminal penalties, or that requires states to pass legislation or lose federal funding, be prohibited or repealed.
HCR 50 is authored by Representatives Brandon Creighton, Leo Berman, Bryan Hughes, Dan Gattis and Ryan Guillen.
To view the full text of the resolution, please visit:
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/81R/billtext/html/HC00050I.htm (http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/81R/billtext/html/HC00050I.htm)
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GO TEXAS!
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What are the chances of this bill passing? I have read several threads about several similar bills in several US states, but they all seem to die out.
And if it were to be passed?
from this thread: http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php/topic,6186.msg74611/topicseen.html#new
A footnote attached to the report by the Homeland Security Office of Intelligence and Analysis defines "rightwing extremism in the United States" as including not just racist or hate groups, but also groups that reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority.
Would that make an extremist left wing militia from the entire state of Texas? :o
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Rick Perry for President of Texas!!!
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While I support his position on this, I doubt his sincerity.
This is the same governor that wanted to make HCV vaccinations (with a questionable vaccine) for teenage girls mandatory (even by doing an end-run around the Legislature), made putting Nat'l Guard troops on the border a campaign promise in 2006--and reneged soon after winning the election, funnelled millions of dollars to friends in business and universities, and is currently trying to sell off the Texas highway system to a company in Spain to turn into toll roads....amongst other things....
He's in for a tough re-election campaign against Kay Bailey Hutchison (GOP Senator-Texas) and Kinky Friedman (the likely Democratic candidate)....and he'll support just about anything to get a vote....
As for the Resolution---GO TEXAS! LET'S BE AS FREE AS STATE AS EVERYONE THINKS WE ARE!!! ;D
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While I support his position on this, I doubt his sincerity.
This is the same governor that wanted to make HCV vaccinations (with a questionable vaccine) for teenage girls mandatory (even by doing an end-run around the Legislature), made putting Nat'l Guard troops on the border a campaign promise in 2006--and reneged soon after winning the election, funnelled millions of dollars to friends in business and universities, and is currently trying to sell off the Texas highway system to a company in Spain to turn into toll roads....amongst other things....
He's in for a tough re-election campaign against Kay Bailey Hutchison (GOP Senator-Texas) and Kinky Friedman (the likely Democratic candidate)....and he'll support just about anything to get a vote....
As for the Resolution---GO TEXAS! LET'S BE AS FREE AS STATE AS EVERYONE THINKS WE ARE!!! ;D
While I don't agree on HCV vaccine, or the highway thing, the only part of which I know about is that little stretch or MOPAC, and I don't think there going to turn current highways in to toll roads, I do know we're doing SOMETHING about illegal immigration, even though it's practically nothing compared to the problem.
But, you know what I say about Texas, "If you don't like it here, take I-35 North, in 6 hours you'll be in OKC."
You probably voted for 'Kinky'. ;D
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How many states have done this now? I remember a few months ago, was it montana was affirming sovereignty also?
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How many states have done this now? I remember a few months ago, was it montana was affirming sovereignty also?
Quite a few have been put forth, but I'm not sure if any actually went any where. I've not heard of a state's governor supporting any. You ought to right your boys in your state and tell them, "them boys in Texas got a good thing going, maybe we ought to take a look."
And I've not heard any state governor call the Federal Government "oppressive" like Governor Perry.
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While I don't agree on HCV vaccine, or the highway thing, the only part of which I know about is that little stretch or MOPAC, and I don't think there going to turn current highways in to toll roads, I do know we're doing SOMETHING about illegal immigration, even though it's practically nothing compared to the problem.
...and WHAT would that be, exactly?.....make unkept campaign promises?....
You probably voted for 'Kinky'. ;D
You need to wash your keyboard out with soap for that remark.....Kinky is the only guy that makes Willie Nelson look sane and sober.... :D
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...and WHAT would that be, exactly?.....make unkept campaign promises?....
Like I said, he has done something, the DPS and National Guard has taken a much more active role, more than I've seen other states. And like I said it still isn't nearly enough, not even close. And your boy Kinky couldn't get elected as an Independent so now he's going to try as a Democrat, maybe he figures enough state foreigners have moved in and they vote for him.
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How many states have done this now? I remember a few months ago, was it montana was affirming sovereignty also?
26 last I heard. Results ? Here in NH it got shot down in the House, instead they OKed Gay Marriage and medical marijuana. :(
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26 last I heard. Results ? Here in NH it got shot down in the House, instead they OKed Gay Marriage and medical marijuana. :(
more proof that laws passed in CA, tend to passed nation wide with in a decade or two.
I don't have a prob with gay marriage( or by any of its other names) I do have a prob with midical marijuana. If its a Rx it needs to be adminstered by a pro, and proscribed as a last resort. In ca all it did was make a bunch of stoners legal.
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So 10 or 20 years ago, California passed a State sovereignty law or resolution and it passed and was signed, Please!! And now We are all following suit?????????????
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KOOL AID TIME.
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Well I contacted the Governor's Office and let them know they have my support and I would urge my fellow Texans to do the same. Even if your not too fond of Governor Perry, I feel this is a step in the right direction. Email them Texas State congressmen and senators as well.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090416/ap_on_re_us/perry_secession
AUSTIN, Texas – Republican Gov. Rick Perry insisted Thursday that his remarks about secession were not intended as an argument that Texas should leave the union, but Democrats still called his comments reckless and anti-American.
Perry's comments following an anti-tax "tea party" Wednesday never did advocate Texas breaking away from the United States but did suggest Texans might at some point get so fed up they would want to secede. And that was enough to feed opinions for and against secession on Web sites, cable TV and talk radio across the nation.
At the Texas Capitol on Thursday, Rep. Jim Dunnam of Waco, joined by several fellow Texas House Democrats, said some people associate talk of secession with racial division and the Civil War and that Perry should disavow any notion of seceding.
"Talk of secession is an attack on our country. It can be nothing else. It is the ultimate anti-American statement," Dunnam said at a news conference.
The Democrats are proposing a House resolution expressing "complete and total disagreement with any fringe element advocating the 'secession' of Texas or any other state from our one and indivisible Union."
Perry emphasized Thursday that he is not advocating secession but understands why Americans may have those feelings because of frustration with Washington, D.C. He said it's fine to express the thought. He offered no apology and did not back away from his earlier comments.
In his remarks, which were in response to a question from The Associated Press, Perry said he didn't think Texas should secede despite some chatter about it on the Internet and his name being associated with the idea. Perry answered the question as he walked away from the rally where some in the audience had shouted "Secede!" during his speech.
"We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that. But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot," Perry said Wednesday.
A day later, Perry said he found the fascination with the remark interesting.
"I refer people back to my statement and I got a charge out of it," he said. "I was kind of thinking that maybe the same people that hadn't been reading the Constitution right were reading that article and they got the wrong impression about what I said. Clearly I stated that we have a great union. Texas is part of a great union. And I see no reason for that to change."
Perry has been speaking out against the federal government lately over federal economic stimulus spending. He's also in a tough race for re-election against a fellow Republican, U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, and is trying to portray Hutchison as a Washington insider.
Last week, Perry joined state lawmakers in showing support for a Texas resolution championing states' rights provided for in the 10th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. He voiced support for states' rights again Thursday. He also defended freedom of speech to a room full of journalists.
"This is America, baby. First Amendment. We like it too, as well as the Second and the 10th (amendment)," he said.
Dunnam suggested Perry is positioning himself for his political future.
"We all knew he wanted to be president. I just didn't know it was president of the Republic of Texas," he said to chuckles from onlookers.
Perry spokeswoman Allison Castle responded, "It's unfortunate that Rep. Dunnam is trying to distract from the fact that yesterday thousands of Texans, including many in his own district, expressed their extreme displeasure at Washington's rampant taxation, big spending and bloated government."
Other Democrats weighed in with criticism of Perry's remark.
"Talk of secession would be laughable if it weren't mentioned in a serious way," said former ambassador Tom Schieffer, considering running for governor in 2010.
State Sen. Rodney Ellis, a Houston Democrat, said some issues should not be made legitimate in any way.
"By not rejecting out of hand the possibility of secession, Governor Perry is taking a step down a very dangerous and divisive path encouraged by the fringe of Texas politics," Ellis said.
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"By not rejecting out of hand the possibility of secession, Governor Perry is taking a step down a very dangerous and divisive path encouraged by the fringe of Texas politics," Ellis said.
Trust me, this won't be 'fringe' for too long, I never even entertained the idea until a year ago. And now it seems to be the best option, for Texas and the rest of the Union. No one can deny that federal corruption is out of control and that the oppressiveness of a few hundred people in the federal government is destroying our freedoms. The idea that a few hundred folks on the federal level can tell millions of people how to live and that their local governments are wrong and usurp their control is insane.