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Title: TEXAS GOVERNOR PERRY SAYS TEXAS CAN LEAVE THE UNION
Post by: Rastus on April 15, 2009, 06:33:55 PM
http://blogs.chron.com/texaspolitics/archives/2009/04/perry_says_texa.html (http://blogs.chron.com/texaspolitics/archives/2009/04/perry_says_texa.html)

From the  Houston Chronicle:

April 15, 2009

Perry says Texas can leave the union if it wants to


Speaking with reporters after a tea party rally in Austin today, Gov. Rick Perry said Texas can leave the union if it wants to.

"Texas is a unique place. When we came into the union in 1845, one of the issues was that we would be able to leave if we decided to do that," Perry said. "My hope is that America and Washington in particular pays attention. We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, who knows what may come of that."

I posted the above audio so you can hear Perry for yourself. The audio changes because I missed the first part of his quote and got another reporter to replay that portion for me on their recorder.

Perry also was asked whether the tea party anti-tax rallies are part of a growing national movement.

"I have never seen the power of the grassroots as antimated and as focused and as coordinated...It is a very powerful moment in American history.

"I would suggest that members of congress who are filing for election or re-election in eight months are listening."

"They're hearing everyday working folks saying, 'Listen, it's out of control. We're trying to live our lives and you're strangling us with your spending and your taxation."

Just FYI, on Perry's 1845 statement, Texas came into the union with the ability to divide into five states, not withdraw. After seceding during the Civil War, Texas was allowed to re-enter the union after ratifying the 13th Amendment. The 13th Amendment banned slavery in the United States and any territory subject to its jurisdiction.

UPDATED: Texas v White, a U.S. Supreme Court case decided in 1869, said Texas cannot secede.
Title: Re: TEXAS GOVERNOR PERRY SAYS TEXAS CAN LEAVE THE UNION
Post by: JSC3ATLCSO on April 15, 2009, 06:49:35 PM
Damn,  That might of gotten me to leave good ole Iowa as long as they didn't close their borders right away


Title: Re: TEXAS GOVERNOR PERRY SAYS TEXAS CAN LEAVE THE UNION
Post by: twyacht on April 15, 2009, 07:01:59 PM
I'm gonna have to look into coastal property in TX. ::)
Title: Re: TEXAS GOVERNOR PERRY SAYS TEXAS CAN LEAVE THE UNION
Post by: ericire12 on April 15, 2009, 07:03:33 PM
"God Bless Texas"
Title: Re: TEXAS GOVERNOR PERRY SAYS TEXAS CAN LEAVE THE UNION
Post by: TAB on April 15, 2009, 07:15:47 PM
Its one thing to say it, its another to do it.  I just wish we had people  in washington with the stones to call thier bluff.  .
Title: Re: TEXAS GOVERNOR PERRY SAYS TEXAS CAN LEAVE THE UNION
Post by: fightingquaker13 on April 15, 2009, 07:50:43 PM
Its one thing to say it, its another to do it.  I just wish we had people  in washington with the stones to call thier bluff.  .
Perry is the dumbest govenor Texas has had (W included) since Ma Ferguson who once argued against offering forien language classes in Tx. schools by saying that "If Engllish was good enough for Jesus Christ, its good enough for me". Perry wants to run for senate, knows he'll have to replace Kay Bailey to do it and is trying to stir the far right.Honestly if  TX did  seceed it would be part of Mexico in a week, or at least look like it with all federal funding it would lose. As far as secession goes anyway, I thought we settled that in 1865. Five states (I thought it was just 4), who gets stuck with Lubbock as their captal? ;D
FQ13
Title: Re: TEXAS GOVERNOR PERRY SAYS TEXAS CAN LEAVE THE UNION
Post by: Timothy on April 15, 2009, 07:53:47 PM
" who gets stuck with Lubbock as their captal?"


Gary Busey.....



 ;D
Title: Re: TEXAS GOVERNOR PERRY SAYS TEXAS CAN LEAVE THE UNION
Post by: Texas_Bryan on April 15, 2009, 07:54:19 PM
Honestly if  TX did  seceed it would be part of Mexico in a week, or at least look like it with all federal funding it would lose. As far as secession goes anyway, I thought we settled that in 1865. Five states (I thought it was just 4), who gets stuck with Lubbock as their captal? ;D
FQ13

With the money we loose from the fed, we gain from our people, we stop giving these illegals services, and they'll be gone in a week, maybe to a state near you.  And who ever gets stuck with Lubbock has my prayers. ;D
Title: Re: TEXAS GOVERNOR PERRY SAYS TEXAS CAN LEAVE THE UNION
Post by: Texas_Bryan on April 15, 2009, 07:55:11 PM
" who gets stuck with Lubbock as their captal?"


Gary Busey.....



 ;D

Gary Busey, would have to be banned from Texas.  I'm crazy, but that boy ain't right.
Title: Re: TEXAS GOVERNOR PERRY SAYS TEXAS CAN LEAVE THE UNION
Post by: Timothy on April 15, 2009, 07:57:00 PM
Gary Busey, would have to be banned from Texas.  I'm crazy, but that boy ain't right.

It does help to wear a helmet.....
 ;)
Title: Re: TEXAS GOVERNOR PERRY SAYS TEXAS CAN LEAVE THE UNION
Post by: TexGun on April 15, 2009, 08:48:18 PM
Perry wants to run for senate, knows he'll have to replace Kay Bailey to do it and is trying to stir the far right.FQ13

Actually, Perry wants to get re-elected as governor.  He's facing some heat from the slightly left-leaning Kay Bailey.  Although I totally agree with the sentiment, Perry has probably already done too much damage with some of his other decisions that he may not likely win against her in the primary.  He's pro-gun, pro-life, pro-hunting, etc... Too bad he sided with the land grabbers on the trans-Texsas corridor debacle.  That cut deeply into his credibility. 
Title: Re: TEXAS GOVERNOR PERRY SAYS TEXAS CAN LEAVE THE UNION
Post by: m25operator on April 16, 2009, 01:03:21 AM
Not only is he pro gun, pro life etc.. he has made a difference, George W got us ccw, Rick got us free carry in our vehicles, and went to bat twice, when anti gun mayors and DA's tried to twist the change. He has repeatedly said he has no plans to leave Texas for loftier goals and now it seem the only Governor, that has out right said no, but hell no to the established federal system.  We are putting up fences, what ever you think about them. Worst, in my lifetime, not by a long shot. John Connaly, Dolph Briskoe, Bill Clements, Preston Smith, Mark White, Who owned guns, but thought we should not,  Ann Richardson, ( good job intervening on the Branch Dividian massacre ) she could have altered the outcome, but like democrats do, let the status quo, go forth. Weak kneed bitch. RIP

Mexico take Texas if at all, in a week, not gonna happen, We got more than any other state, armed people, jets, helo's, bombs, space rockets, technology and above all, the will and the skill to use them.

Welcome to Texas. glad that you came down, just don't forget to go back home.



Title: Re: TEXAS GOVERNOR PERRY SAYS TEXAS CAN LEAVE THE UNION
Post by: Texas_Bryan on April 16, 2009, 04:27:47 AM
Welcome to Texas. glad that you came down, just don't forget to go back home.


Amen.  You could list the things about Rick Perry you don't like, and then realize, why aren't we talking about any out of Texas governors?  Where they at, your presidents calling you all extremist and stomping on your freedoms, where your boy at?  Why have four or five thread been made for Texas in a week, you should show what your state's doing for you.  The only politician I've seen on the national news calling the federal government oppressive has been Governor Perry.  Get your guys on this.
Title: Re: TEXAS GOVERNOR PERRY SAYS TEXAS CAN LEAVE THE UNION
Post by: ismram on April 16, 2009, 06:05:43 AM
Its one thing to say it, its another to do it.  I just wish we had people  in washington with the stones to call thier bluff.  .
Hey Tab, I'm not from Texas or Calf. We can't afford too lose Texas but I would'nt give a rats ass if Calf. dropped into the ocean!
Title: Re: TEXAS GOVERNOR PERRY SAYS TEXAS CAN LEAVE THE UNION
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 16, 2009, 10:05:08 AM
Hey Tab, I'm not from Texas or Calf. We can't afford too lose Texas but I would'nt give a rats ass if Calf. dropped into the ocean!

If I had a big enough lever I'd be prying on a fault line.  ;D
Title: Re: TEXAS GOVERNOR PERRY SAYS TEXAS CAN LEAVE THE UNION
Post by: 1911 Junkie on April 16, 2009, 10:09:14 AM
If I had a big enough lever I'd be prying on a fault line.  ;D

Too bad the award has already been issued today. :D
Title: Re: TEXAS GOVERNOR PERRY SAYS TEXAS CAN LEAVE THE UNION
Post by: ericire12 on April 16, 2009, 10:21:39 AM
Too bad the award has already been issued today. :D

Next time.

But Tom is already a multi-award recipient....... and getting damn close to receiving a "lifetime achievement award" as well.
Title: Re: TEXAS GOVERNOR PERRY SAYS TEXAS CAN LEAVE THE UNION
Post by: Timothy on April 16, 2009, 10:22:23 AM
If I had a big enough lever I'd be prying on a fault line.  ;D

TAB is still east of the San Andreas......Sacremento would be spared, at least for a little while...
Title: Re: TEXAS GOVERNOR PERRY SAYS TEXAS CAN LEAVE THE UNION
Post by: TAB on April 16, 2009, 03:27:07 PM
If I had a big enough lever I'd be prying on a fault line.  ;D


that would actually fix CA.  we would lose the bay area and most of LA. 


CA produces a large chunk of the nations food supply( something like 40% of the produce).  Not to mention we have the 2 largest ports on the west coast.   trust me, you would care every time you go to the grocery store. 
Title: Re: TEXAS GOVERNOR PERRY SAYS TEXAS CAN LEAVE THE UNION
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 16, 2009, 05:48:44 PM

that would actually fix CA.  we would lose the bay area and most of LA. 


CA produces a large chunk of the nations food supply( something like 40% of the produce).  Not to mention we have the 2 largest ports on the west coast.   trust me, you would care every time you go to the grocery store. 

No we wouldn't, because the food would be grown in the mid west and south instead, it would cost some what less in trucking and the farmers would not be getting hosed with supporting all those Mexicans on welfare in the bay area and LA.
As for the ports, I'm sure docks can be built in Reno or Bakersfield just as easily as Oakland., besides, think of the business opportunities in Sacramento.