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Title: Gun Law Question
Post by: johnkorz on April 19, 2009, 01:35:52 AM
Hello Everyone:

In Maryland we are only allowed to buy one hand gun per month.  What are the laws in some of the states you live in?  Can you make a multiple purchase at one time?  Can you bring the gun home with you the day you purchase it?

Thanks
John
Title: Re: Gun Law Question
Post by: lettyinreno on April 19, 2009, 02:22:14 AM
Yes,
In some states we can choose, purchase & carry out the door  (Brady check aka 4473 form approval) in the same day. :-* The gun laws are very different state to state & how many firearms can be purchased at one time. It is an ATF agreement within those state bylaws as to stautes and governing agencies willing to use common sense.
We are one of the fortunate states here in the Nevada to have the wonderful selections without the government "getting in our hair" of making choices of the firearms for us....
Good luck!
Title: Re: Gun Law Question
Post by: TAB on April 19, 2009, 03:42:32 AM
in CA we have a 1 hand gun from a dealer per month, but you can buy as many as you want private party.
Title: Re: Gun Law Question
Post by: philw on April 19, 2009, 04:11:15 AM
Try living in Australia

http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php/topic,4280.msg49932.html#msg49932   ::)
Title: Re: Gun Law Question
Post by: fightingquaker13 on April 19, 2009, 04:29:50 AM
Try living in Australia

http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php/topic,4280.msg49932.html#msg49932   ::)

What's up with that phil? I've always wondered? I mean when it comes to a fronteir mindset, rugged individualism, general toughness and self reliance and healthy distrust of authority, you lot seem to have us beat hands down. I don't think even the most nationalist members of this board would argue when I say that y'all have a reputation (your avatar aside) from being some of the toughest bastards on the planet. Yet even in California and the American Northeast, gun control laws like yours wouldn't pass the giggle test. Hell, even Obama, one of the most liberal presidents in living memory with astronomical approval ratings and comfortable majorities in both houses knows better than to try (in the short term anyway) to try to ban AK-47s for God's sakes. What happened that Port Author caused everyone down there to "go all wobbly"? It just seems incongruent with the culture. Just curious.
FQ13 who thinks you are one illegal we could all provide sanctuary too if you decide to hop a freighter
Title: Re: Gun Law Question
Post by: MikeBjerum on April 19, 2009, 08:56:22 AM
In Minnesota there isn't a limit.  You need to have a "permit to acquire" or a "concealed carry permit" for either a handgun or a PIF (I think the State's description of PIF goes back to the Clinton gang).  However, while I can't buy a handgun in South Dakota and bring it back, I can buy an AR, or the like, as a long gun and bring it back with no permits.

I have bought as many as three handguns in a day from gun shops.  However, we have a "big box" that won't sell you more than one gun (of any type) every five days.  I asked what they would do if I bought a pair, like when I did my vaquaros?  The salesman said there are ways to break the rules, and they just do it at the manager shift changes or coffee breaks.  I said thanks and went to another dealer.
Title: Re: Gun Law Question
Post by: Timothy on April 19, 2009, 09:01:34 AM
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php/topic,6100.msg73285.html#msg73285

See the link....good reading, it will further explain confuse the various laws around the Republic....
Title: Re: Gun Law Question
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 19, 2009, 09:13:05 AM
 NH, Which is in the "North East which keeps getting slammed because of Ma and NY, Pay for however many guns,fill out ATF form, NICS call, then go shooting. No permit to buy or own, no sales tax, no registration and no ammo restrictions. All NFA weapons are OK as well. You do have to get a permit to carry concealed, but as it's only $10 and"shall issue" within 14 days it's no big deal.Only place carry is restricted are School buildings and Federal buildings.
Title: Re: Gun Law Question
Post by: ismram on April 19, 2009, 10:17:20 AM
In Pa. you can buy a handgun no restrictions on how many (no permit) buy a holster and walk out the door wearing your gun (open carry). If you want a concealed carry permit go to your local sheriff's office and get one the same day (Shall issue state).
Title: Re: Gun Law Question
Post by: Fatman on April 19, 2009, 10:30:12 AM
In Pa. you can buy a handgun no restrictions on how many (no permit) buy a holster and walk out the door wearing your gun (open carry). If you want a concealed carry permit go to your local sheriff's office and get one the same day (Shall issue state).

Hmm... maybe your sheriff will issue same day, but mine requires two friends or neighbors to say you're not out in your yard nekkid and howling at the moon for no reason*, and he will run a criminal check on you.











*werewolves are exempt from this requirement.
Title: Re: Gun Law Question
Post by: MikeBjerum on April 19, 2009, 10:46:46 AM
Hmm... maybe your sheriff will issue same day, but mine requires two friends or neighbors to say you're not out in your yard nekkid and howling at the moon for no reason*, and he will run a criminal check on you.

I'm glad you added "no reason" ... is happy to be alive a reason  ;D

P.S.

I ain't a werewolf!  I only look like one on good days  ;)










*werewolves are exempt from this requirement.

Title: Re: Gun Law Question
Post by: Pathfinder on April 19, 2009, 10:58:50 AM
ND - no limit, based solely on what the store has in stock and how much you have to spend. With a CCW you can walk out the door without waiting for the phone call too. Just fill out and sign the yellow form, let the store folks record the data, and off you go.
Title: Re: Gun Law Question
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 19, 2009, 11:08:39 AM
Hmm... maybe your sheriff will issue same day, but mine requires two friends or neighbors to say you're not out in your yard nekkid and howling at the moon for no reason*, and he will run a criminal check on you.











*werewolves are exempt from this requirement.


Because they are "in your yard nekkid and howling at the moon" WITH a reason ?
Title: Re: Gun Law Question
Post by: ismram on April 19, 2009, 12:49:25 PM
Hmm... maybe your sheriff will issue same day, but mine requires two friends or neighbors to say you're not out in your yard nekkid and howling at the moon for no reason*, and he will run a criminal check on you.











*werewolves are exempt from this requirement.

I didn't say they don't run a crimminal ckeck, but if you can't find two people to say that your not crackers. Maybe you shoudn't be packing. :P
Title: Re: Gun Law Question
Post by: philw on April 19, 2009, 08:54:21 PM
What's up with that phil? I've always wondered? I mean when it comes to a fronteir mindset, rugged individualism, general toughness and self reliance and healthy distrust of authority, you lot seem to have us beat hands down. I don't think even the most nationalist members of this board would argue when I say that y'all have a reputation (your avatar aside) from being some of the toughest bastards on the planet. Yet even in California and the American Northeast, gun control laws like yours wouldn't pass the giggle test. Hell, even Obama, one of the most liberal presidents in living memory with astronomical approval ratings and comfortable majorities in both houses knows better than to try (in the short term anyway) to try to ban AK-47s for God's sakes. What happened that Port Author caused everyone down there to "go all wobbly"? It just seems incongruent with the culture. Just curious.
FQ13 who thinks you are one illegal we could all provide sanctuary too if you decide to hop a freighter

hehe thanks mate  ( there is a story behind my avatar ;) )


John Howard was the issue there and had all the states bent over with it,   
he is on record about hating guns,  and when Port Author happened that was all he needed.

the media took his side  and it was all over and done with real quick  the other issue is you had people that just shot shot gun  or just bolt actions  saying.  well it dose not affect me so what's the issue.   or groups that are meant to represent ALL shooters  just concentrating on there shooting sports, not everyone.  in the end we all lost out

the new laws only took 2 weeks to happen after the incident.   


unfortunately  over here everything seems to be a privilege not a right    as they seem to keep on reminding us   just like driving a car.


Title: Re: Gun Law Question
Post by: runstowin on April 19, 2009, 09:18:30 PM
In Colorado, no limit on purchases, must wait for the background check, can take 15 mins. or hours depending, and then you are out the door with your firearm/s.
Title: Re: Gun Law Question
Post by: tjomas800 on April 24, 2009, 11:31:56 PM
Here in the great state of Texas all you do is show your I.D. and have the dealer verify the background check form over the phone and your good to go with as many guns as you care to pay for. 
Title: Re: Gun Law Question
Post by: cookie62 on April 25, 2009, 03:54:08 PM
In Illinois no limit on puschases, must have state FOID card(good for 10 years). 3 day wait for handguns, 1 day for long guns. And of course the fed. insta-check.
Title: Re: Gun Law Question
Post by: twyacht on April 25, 2009, 05:23:48 PM
When in NC, The non CCW holder could acquire a "Purchase Permit" from the Sheriff's office they resided in. Required 2 trips.

First trip to pay and get form, it too required "personal references" that THEY DID call. Is Tom a meth dealer? does he have "anger issues", is he a loon? That type of deal.....Than go back to LEO's office and pick them up.

Than (depending on county), the Sheriff will issue 1 to 5 per month "purchase permits". Pretty much a signed notarized form stating I Sheriff Hewitt have conducted yada yada yada, and Tom is not a meth freak, angry, homicidal, gun loon.

The Permits are good for 1 or 2 years, Once you have them, than you can go to the show, shop, and get as many as the permits you have in hand. 1 permit per firearm. But if you have 5 permits you can get 5.

The CCW lets you get all you can afford, that day, and walk out with it.

Title: Re: Gun Law Question
Post by: blackwolfe on April 25, 2009, 06:45:05 PM
No limits on the number uou can purchase in Michigan but you basically need a license to purchase a handgun issued by the local police authority good for 10 days.  If you have a CPL (concealed pistol license) that is your permit to purchase.  You still need to fill out forms with a CPL, but you don't have to go to the the police station first to get the purchase permit and pass a very basic quiz.  FFL holders must obtain this license to purchase also when they obtain a handgun from an individual or other dealer.  If the FFL holder obtained from a wholesaler or manufacturer this does not apply.  If you have a CPL, then after purchase you must send in the forms to the police, who forward to the state police.  The law recently changed on this, so I don't know if a non CPL holder who got a purchase permit has to take the gun to the police department with their paper work or not.  Before the law changed everyone that purchased a handgun had to return to the purchase permitting police department with the gun to have a "safety inspection."  The "safety inspection" was defacto registration although they didn't call it that.  If you didn't have it inspected you could be charged with possesion of an unregistered handgun and part of the penalty was forfieture.  With the law change the "safety inspection" officially changed to registration.   
Unlike federal law there is a 26 inch minimum overall length and minimum barrel length requirements, Michigan considers long guns under 30 inches in length a handgun and must be registered.  My older Ruger Mini14 with wood and steel folding stock is registered as a handgun.  I'm not sure on this, but I think that nonresidents cannot posses in Michigan a handgun unless it is registered in their resident state or if they have a CPL issued from a resipricol CPL agreement state.  So if your coming to Michigan be careful about handguns and long guns with collapsible and folding stocks if they are less than 30 inches.  You may be legal by federal and home state laws, but not Michigan.  That part of the law is hard to find as it is an attorney general opion at the end of the firearms law book and not with the other parts about legal size.
Some of the non resident law stuff changed recently also and I'm not real up to snuff on it as it doesn't apply to me.
Michigan became a shall issue state about 8-10 years ago instead of the good ole boy may issue if you have money or know some one.  Michigan has actually been getting a little better in the last few years, there are still some GFW laws.  No SBR or AOW.
Here are a couple of links:
Michigan gun owners we site.  Some access, but if you register for free, there is a legal section that you can have access also that is very helpful
http://www.migunowners.org/
http://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/publications/firearms.pdf
http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,1607,7-123-1591_3503_4654-16241--,00.html
http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,1607,7-123-1591_3503_4654---,00.html
Title: Re: Gun Law Question
Post by: bjtraz on April 26, 2009, 11:26:04 PM
In Missouri, no waiting periods, no licenses, no limits, no problem. Just pass a NICS check, fill out a 4473, and buy whatever you can afford, or whatever they have in stock. Which right now, is getting harder and harder to find much
Title: Re: Gun Law Question
Post by: tt11758 on April 27, 2009, 04:57:46 PM
Here in Iowa for handgun purchases you are required to have a "permit to purchase".  This is acquired from your county Sheriff and requires a 3-day waiting period.  Once the permit is issued, you can use it to buy as many handguns as you desire, and it is good for a year from the date of issue.

If you have a concealed carry permit it is considered a "permit to purchase" and you can buy a handgun whenever the mood trikes you.

For long guns, you fill out the paperwork, and if you have a ccw you give the nice man the money and you're out the door with your gun in your hands.  Without a ccw there is more paperwork, but since I have ccw, I'm not sure what all that entails.
Title: Re: Gun Law Question
Post by: SCfromNY on April 29, 2009, 01:34:33 PM
In South Carolina:

No limit on guns purchased.
No backround check if you have a permit. If not instant check 15-90 minutes
Leave with gun.
Okay in console or glovebox, loaded and ready . . . No CWP required