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Title: Kubotan or tactical flashlight
Post by: metamurph on April 25, 2009, 08:01:15 PM
In some of the shows where you get to cycling and lights it seems like the basic manipulation techniques are similar.  Is there any advantage.  I would love to see a bit more on use of these. 
The ATM show was great.  My wife has started watching the show with me and it has really helped us with thinking about being in condition yellow.  She is a good way from thinking about carrying a pistol in her purse (pepper spray) and she has a little maglite which seems a lot like having a kubotan. 
The challenge with these is it is jammed in the old purse, when do you get it out.  For a guy with a kubotan "key ring" it is just in the front pocket.  So I guess that is another part, not just use but access etc.

thanks,
tom
Title: Re: Kubotan or tactical flashlight
Post by: Michael Janich on April 25, 2009, 08:40:42 PM
Dear Metamurph:

The flashlight is, in my opinion, a better choice than a Kubotan. I travel all the time and take a light everywhere. Kubotans are recognized as a type of weapon and don't pass scrutiny as easily. Lights also have the capability of blinding an attacker from a distance and being used to search darkened areas before you walk into them. By using the light to "activate" your awareness, it motivates you to put in your hand and look around--exactly what you should be doing.

Good lights also have pocket clips that make them easier to carry than a Maglite dumped in the bottom of a purse.

If you're looking for more complete instruction in the techniques of using fist loads (a generic term for hand-held improvised weapons), please consider my video "Forever Armed" from Stay Safe Media.

I hope this helps.

Stay safe,

Mike
Title: Re: Kubotan or tactical flashlight
Post by: metamurph on April 26, 2009, 12:28:21 AM
Thanks, I was just browsing your book selection and plan to order the video but the website isn't secure so will have to do via phone or something later.

My wife runs a more organized purse that dumped in  :) Problem with the stock 2 AA maglite is twist on operation but that can be amended.  We have been building out our supply of more tactical lights though.

Thoughts on Krav Maga as a discipline?

thanks,
tom
Title: Re: Kubotan or tactical flashlight
Post by: Rob10ring on April 26, 2009, 01:11:14 AM
Hi Metamurph, I am not affiliated with Stay Safe Media, but wanted you to know that their site can be accessed under their SSL certificate. In the URL, simply add an "s" after the "http" to make it https. After making the change to the URL, hit return. This will access the secure directory. This is something that they will need to address, but you'd be safe purchasing this way. Their GoDaddy certificate is installed and is good for another year.
Title: Re: Kubotan or tactical flashlight
Post by: Michael Rigg on May 01, 2009, 11:12:35 AM
Hello Metamurph,

Fuzzdaddy is correct.

The Stay Safe Media website is secure for online purchases. The store switches to SSL mode prior to entering the Check Out Confirmation page.

If you are concerned about a purchase online you can always use our toll free number. 866-937-2339.

Thank you for your interest.

Best,

Mike
Title: Re: Kubotan or tactical flashlight
Post by: ar15guy2009 on May 20, 2009, 11:09:04 PM
Ok Mike I have a question concerning tactical lights what about one like say the e2d (what i carry). I hadn't thought about it until just now that could be misunderstood as a weapon could it not
Title: Re: Kubotan or tactical flashlight
Post by: Michael Janich on May 22, 2009, 09:42:34 AM
Dear AR15Guy2009:

Crenulated surfaces, like those on the E2D, are low profile enough to fly under the radar. However, there are some attachments out there--and some off-the-shelf lights--that are obviously weapon oriented. Like anything else, if you give people a reason to consider flashlights a weapon, they'll start doing so. They'll also want to legislate them, restrict them, and do all the stupid stuff they do with guns and knives.

Like everything else, crenulation in moderation is fine...

Stay safe,

Mike
Title: Re: Kubotan or tactical flashlight
Post by: saltydogbk on May 22, 2009, 10:31:10 AM



Like everything else, crenulation in moderation is fine...

Stay safe,

Mike

Now that is something you just don't hear everyday...
Title: Re: Kubotan or tactical flashlight
Post by: ar15guy2009 on May 28, 2009, 12:19:24 AM
thanks for the info mike. i never leave home without it and if i'm out at night my hand is on it at all times
Title: Re: Kubotan or tactical flashlight
Post by: JohnBrantuk on November 08, 2009, 08:41:23 PM
Dear AR15Guy2009:

Crenulated surfaces, like those on the E2D, are low profile enough to fly under the radar. However, there are some attachments out there--and some off-the-shelf lights--that are obviously weapon oriented. Like anything else, if you give people a reason to consider flashlights a weapon, they'll start doing so. They'll also want to legislate them, restrict them, and do all the stupid stuff they do with guns and knives.

Like everything else, crenulation in moderation is fine...

Stay safe,

Mike

Mike, please let me know what flashlight you would purchase if:
1. Money was no object
and
2 or the best for the money (money being an object).

Thanks!
Title: Re: Kubotan or tactical flashlight
Post by: JohnBrantuk on November 28, 2009, 02:55:07 PM
Mike, please let me know what flashlight you would purchase if:
1. Money was no object
and
2 or the best for the money (money being an object).

Thanks!

Mike,

I know you're probably terrifbly busy, but I'm still interested in getting your opinion on this.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Kubotan or tactical flashlight
Post by: SWADE587 on February 17, 2010, 09:46:45 PM
While I carry a Kubotan everyday, (and would like some more formal training with it), I like the flash light. I typically carry a good old surefire G2. Sure, its polymer, but bright enough to blind and hard enough to make the BG think twice. The good news is, while Kubotan aren't airplane legal, flashlights are G2G when flying.

SWADE
Title: Re: Kubotan or tactical flashlight
Post by: Michael Janich on February 18, 2010, 09:52:14 AM
Mike,

I know you're probably terrifbly busy, but I'm still interested in getting your opinion on this.
Thanks!

Sorry I missed this one. Thanks for your patience.

To be very honest, I have not done an exhaustive search of everything that's available. I usually catch up on what's happening in the industry at the IWA show (the European equivalent of SHOT), which is less hectic than SHOT.

With that said, I have been VERY happy with my Insight HX120. When I was with BLACKHAWK, I had a Gladius and liked the strobe feature, the dimming feature, and the mode switching, but I would never carry it on a daily basis because it was too big and had no pocket clip. The HX120 is much smaller and tucks in the pen pocket of my carpenter's jeans perfectly. Its mode selection is all based on operation of the tailcap switch, and with a little practice, it's almost as fast and versatile as the twisty tailcap switch of the Gladius, but without the issues associated with its magnetic switching.

I hope this helps.

Stay safe,

Mike
Title: Re: Kubotan or tactical flashlight
Post by: JohnBrantuk on February 18, 2010, 12:52:58 PM
Thanks so much for getting back to me on this.

I really appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts with me.

Best,

-- John Brantuk
Title: Re: Kubotan or tactical flashlight
Post by: Michael Janich on February 19, 2010, 10:17:25 AM
My pleasure, John.

Thanks again for your patience.

Stay safe,

Mike