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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: Timothy on April 28, 2009, 11:23:52 AM
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No big suprise...still sucks though, lets hope the check bounces from his payolla...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30456741/
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He always voted like one. Arlen Specter was one of the Warren Commission investigators, shortly afterward he runs for office and wins (with lots of party help) Gerry Ford made out best though, He went from the Warren Commission staff to pres.
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All the more reason to focus on the Senate and House races in 2010. They have their "filibuster proof" number now and we cannot stop what is likely to happen!
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POS! (not that we'll miss him) but switching parties WHILE in office should be illegal.
I am SURE he got all kinds of perks for this as Spector was always in it only for himself, not his electorate.
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POS! (not that we'll miss him) but switching parties WHILE in office should be illegal.
I am SURE he got all kinds of perks for this as Spector was always in it only for himself, not his electorate.
Considering these people are elected based mainly on party affiliation, I agree.
They want to switch, wait till the term expires and step back up to the plate!
Benedict Arnold sumbitch..... >:(
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Treason
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Actually a pretty good deal...it's always been a liberal Republican trying to out liberal a liberal Democrat. At least this opens a spot for a conservative Republican to run againist him in the general election. No guarantees but better than nothing.
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Actually a pretty good deal...it's always been a liberal Republican trying to out liberal a liberal Democrat. At least this opens a spot for a conservative Republican to run againist him in the general election. No guarantees but better than nothing.
Yeah, it levels the playing field come election time
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They have their "filibuster proof" number now and we cannot stop what is likely to happen!
Could this be the SECOND "shot heard 'round the world".........the beginning of he second American Revolution?
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He just did a press conference and the bottom line here is that he is an angry bitter old man. He basically said he made this move as a desperate attempt to keep his Senate seat. DUH!
Well at least when election time comes he will lose his seat to a Republican and not a Democrat.
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Could this be the SECOND "shot heard 'round the world".........the beginning of he second American Revolution?
Here's hoping.
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Michael Steele said this:
Some in the Republican Party are happy about this. I am not. Let’s be honest-Senator Specter didn’t leave the GOP based on principles of any kind. He left to further his personal political interests because he knew that he was going to lose a Republican primary due to his left-wing voting record. Republicans look forward to beating Sen. Specter in 2010, assuming the Democrats don’t do it first.
http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2009/04/dont_let_the_do_1.php
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Jim DeMint said this:
“I would rather have 30 Republicans in the Senate who really believe in principles of limited government, free markets, free people, than to have 60 that don’t have a set of beliefs.”
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Did-DeMints-endorsement-of-Toomey-set-off-Specter.html
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Hopefully that old scum bag will drop dead before then.
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Here is what Specter said back in March about switching parties:
http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2009/04/28/specter-had-disavowed-a-switch/
In a March 17th interview with The Hill, Specter said he absolutely would not switch parties:
[Democrats] are trying very hard for the 60th vote. Got to give them credit for trying. But the answer is no.
I’m not going to discuss private talks I had with other people who may or may not be considered influential. But since those three people are in the public domain, I think it is appropriative to respond to those questions.
I am staying a Republican because I think I have an important role, a more important role, to play there. The United States very desperately needs a two-party system. That’s the basis of politics in America. I’m afraid we are becoming a one-party system, with Republicans becoming just a regional party with so little representation of the northeast or in the middle atlantic. I think as a governmental matter, it is very important to have a check and balance. That’s a very important principle in the operation of our government. In the constitution on Separation of powers.
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PAYOLA!!!
"Money, property, or a favor given, offered, or promised to a person or accepted by a person in a position of trust as an inducement to dishonest behavior"
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Yeah, I love it when they use the word "moderate." He is as moderate as my guy LIEberman. If you look at his postions, the only thing LIEberman jumped ship on was the war. Now Pelosi and Reid have him wearing a nice little skirt and he is just curtsying around the Hill like a good little girl. :-*
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All the more reason to focus on the Senate and House races in 2010. They have their "filibuster proof" number now and we cannot stop what is likely to happen!
Between Snow, Collins, and Spectre, they have always had the filibuster proof majority. :'( Sad that people can't be honest about the way they vote.
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Limbaugh to Specter: Please take McCain with you....
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/28/limbaugh-to-specter-please-take-mccain-with-you/
Conservative host Rush Limbaugh said Tuesday he isn't sorry to see Arlen Specter leave the GOP — and that many Republicans wish the Pennsylvania senator would take a few others with him when he goes.
"A lot of people say, 'Well, Specter, take [Sen. John] McCain with you. And his daughter [Meghan]. Take McCain and his daughter with you if you're gonna…" he told listeners, dissolving in laughter.
"…..It's ultimately good. You're weeding out people who aren't really Republicans," he said.
Limbaugh did concede the downside of Specter's defection. "It makes the Senate essentially as big a slam dunk for Obama and the Democrats as the House of Representatives already is," he said.
Earlier this month, Specter said Limbaugh did have a tendency to make "provocative" statements, but told radio host Howard Stern he didn't have a problem with the conservative talker. "Do I like Limbaugh?… yeah, I like him," he said then.
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The only reason he has done this, is due to (his on) internal polling that shows him losing the republican primary. Just think, the ranking republican on the Judicial Committee after his phlip plop will be Senator Sessions, a conservative.
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Specter and Murtha deserve eachother...
Limbaugh to Specter: Please take McCain with you....
10 RING!
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I wonder what this will do to the gun and ammo availability. (What little ther is of it.) Do you think this will add another run?
Also I think its time to remember the Democrats that DO support the 2nd Admendment.
http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=116&sid=1627648 (http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=116&sid=1627648)
It is our job to find out who the gun supporters are in our area (whether Republican, Democrat, or Libertarian) and support them.
Specter's switch just underscores the importance of that job.
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The only reason he has done this, is due to (his on) internal polling that shows him losing the republican primary. Just think, the ranking republican on the Judicial Committee after his phlip plop will be Senator Sessions, a conservative.
An excellent observation.
Specter and Murtha deserve eachother...
Limbaugh to Specter: Please take McCain with you....
10 RING!
I'm in Limbaugh's boat on that too!
Better to have 65 Democrats who oppose gun control than 65 Republicans that say they oppose gun control.
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To quote the lady from The Weakest Link: GOOD-BYE!
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To quote the lady from The Weakest Link: GOOD-BYE!
ANOTHER WINNER ! ! !
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ANOTHER WINNER ! ! !
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Dont let the door hit ya on the way out!
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On a more serious note, it's good to know that all those years I thought Specter to be a fraud who was saying what he thought it took to get elected....I was right.
Which says he's always was just another dirty-dog politician. Not that I had any special powers to divine this....it's just he talked out of both sides of his mouth...saying one thing...siding with the opposition on another front. A little more proficiency in lying and he could have been President, eh?
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On a more serious note, it's good to know that all those years I thought Specter to be a fraud who was saying what he thought it took to get elected....I was right.
Which says he's always was just another dirty-dog politician. Not that I had any special powers to divine this....it's just he talked out of both sides of his mouth...saying one thing...siding with the opposition on another front his lips were moving. A little more proficiency in lying and he could have been President, eh?
There, fixed it for ya!
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POS! (not that we'll miss him) but switching parties WHILE in office should be illegal.
I am SURE he got all kinds of perks for this as Spector was always in it only for himself, not his electorate.
Actually he tried to make this illegal in 2002, I believe, when Jump'n Jim Jeffers switched. He was a Democrap until 1965 and he never really strayed too far from the flock.
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The question this brings up is: Should you vote in a primary for the candidate who best represents your views but won't win the election, or should you vote for one who is close to your views, but is electable in the general election?
Here in Colorado our Senate Republicain primary was between Pete Coors and Bob Schaffer. Coors won the primary, but Schaffer should have done better in the general election. Coors lost to Ken Salazar(now Sec Int).
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I'm ashamed to say I voted for the man. Wait, no I'm not. I'm ashamed he betrayed my vote.
Toomey! Specter!
Toomey! Specter!
Toomey! Specter!
Toomey! Specter!
Toomey! Specter!
Toomey! Specter!
Toomey! Specter!
Toomey! Specter!
That sound you here, dear Arlen, is the sound the voting lever makes as it hits your ass on the way out.
ps, I was major league pissed (not the English meaning, either) when I heard this this morning.
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Vote for what is right. NOT whoever will win and NOT 'the lesser of two evils'.
The last two stratagies have got us where we are today.
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The question this brings up is: Should you vote in a primary for the candidate who best represents your views but won't win the election, or should you vote for one who is close to your views, but is electable in the general election?...................
I've answered that for myself after nearly 50 years of observation.
The lesser of two evils is still evil.
My 2 cents.
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Those replies make sense.
I'm a social liberal, a fiscal Conservative, but 2A is my #1 issue. In the past, I'd always vote R as the D was anti 2A. However, here in Colorado we now have pro 2A Dems. Once 2A isn't an issue with my two candidates, I have to look at other things. I may look at Govt spending, abortion, death penality, border security, law inforcement, etc.
If I understand the above replies, person (candidate) trumps party?
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Those replies make sense.
I'm a social liberal, a fiscal Conservative, but 2A is my #1 issue. In the past, I'd always vote R as the D was anti 2A. However, here in Colorado we now have pro 2A Dems. Once 2A isn't an issue with my two candidates, I have to look at other things. I may look at Govt spending, abortion, death penality, border security, law inforcement, etc.
If I understand the above replies, person (candidate) trumps party?
Yep.
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If party did not matter, then why don't conservative Democrates get together with conservative Republicans and oust SanFranNan from the Speaker of the House position? A conservative Democrate is much more preferable, to what is there.
Since actions speak louder than words, how about a little conservatism in action. A conservative coalition taking control of The House of Representitives would go a long way to reestablishing Constitutional rule in this country.
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I fear that with the combination of the stupidity of the electorate and the recent "elevation" of the "hollowman" the time for the ballot box has passed.
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If I understand the above replies, person (candidate) trumps party?
If party did not matter, then why don't conservative Democrates get together with conservative Republicans and oust SanFranNan from the Speaker of the House position? A conservative Democrate is much more preferable, to what is there.
Since actions speak louder than words, how about a little conservatism in action. A conservative coalition taking control of The House of Representitives would go a long way to reestablishing Constitutional rule in this country.
Beacuse to those in power all that matters is power. Look how Specter switched to try to keep his power.
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...............If I understand the above replies, person (candidate) trumps party?
Absolutely.