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Title: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
Post by: Teresa Heilevang on May 06, 2009, 06:28:27 PM
How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.

I couldnt save it to a picture so you will have to open up the pdf file I have attached.
but it is well worth it..
Hahahahahaha


Title: Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
Post by: long762range on May 06, 2009, 07:05:53 PM
I was sitting in a jury pool here in Texas.  One of the lawyers asked a prospective juror "Can you be fair to the defendant?"  She said "No".  The attorney looked at her and said "Why?".  She answered "He is here" and pointed to the court.  They dismissed her from duty.
As she was leaving the rest of the members of the jury pool looked at her as if to say:   "Why did I not think of that?"

Title: Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
Post by: Texas_Bryan on May 06, 2009, 07:09:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGsnjUCAVg4

Title: Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
Post by: Bidah on May 06, 2009, 07:54:06 PM
That is not something that I would expect from Belgrade, but very funny anyway.  I guess he is not the type to beat around the tree is he..

FWIW, when called for Jury duty here, you are on the list for a year.  You have to call and go whenever they have you down to show up.

-Bidah
Title: Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
Post by: Green Mountain Gringo on May 06, 2009, 09:26:48 PM
With all respect.....Larry David may have done it the best.....  :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MFebZlUJ7E

Title: Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
Post by: twyacht on May 06, 2009, 09:29:12 PM
Maybe I missed the point about counting wrinkles on his dogs WHAT?

I already figured he'd be the one to say "Fry em' all" I'm not prejudiced, I hate all the scumbags,....

 :o
Title: Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
Post by: callithump on May 06, 2009, 09:52:13 PM
Dianne Sawyer said she was asked similar questions by a Judge. He asked her if she could be impartial about the truth to which she said "yes". The Courtroom burst into laughter. She said it was the most embarrassing moment of her life.

Belgrade is a nice little town, the dude will wish he'd been more tactful. There's a little book out called the Citizens Rule Book - Bill of Rights Jury Handbook by Whitten Publishers in Phoenix. It addresses the absolute power of the Juror and is quite informative.
Title: Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
Post by: Sgt Z Squad on May 06, 2009, 10:39:30 PM
Can we get him to run for president? ;D
Title: Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
Post by: Rob10ring on May 07, 2009, 12:38:11 AM
So, did that get him off the hook?

Here in Socialist Republik of Kalifornia, he'd be heading to jail. They might even reinstate courtyard hangings. ;)
Title: Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
Post by: seeker_two on May 07, 2009, 05:32:11 AM
I was sitting in a jury pool here in Texas.  One of the lawyers asked a prospective juror "Can you be fair to the defendant?"  She said "No".  The attorney looked at her and said "Why?".  She answered "He is here" and pointed to the court.  They dismissed her from duty.


The very first time I was called for jury duty, the defendant's lawyer asked me something similar. I (being 18 and starting to study psychology) said that I thought the defendant guilty due to his body language and mannerisms. I was dismissed on the spot. Thirty minutes later, the defendant's lawyer cuts a deal with the DA and judge....That was almost 20 years and two towns ago, and I've never been called to serve on a jury since....  ;D
Title: Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
Post by: fightingquaker13 on May 07, 2009, 05:43:33 AM
The posts have been funy, but I do want to make one serious point that I try to pound into the heads of my students.
In my opinion (for whatever that's worth) there are six fundamental duties of citizenship:
1) obey the law
2)pay your taxws
3) serve if needed in a time of war
4) read the news paper so you are informed about current events
5) make an informed vote in elections
6) serve on a jury when called
 After all folks, one of your neighbors lives is litterally on the line here and its the jury that provides the buffer between the state's ability to totally ruin someone's life and the community's ability to temper that, or to take someone dangerous off the street. Here endeth the rant.
FQ13
Title: Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
Post by: cooptire on May 07, 2009, 11:08:25 AM
I have some horrendous jury stories tht I won't bore you with but there is one jury I wanted to be on. A local gentleman was charged with attempted 2nd degree murder after shooting a guy who broke in to his house and attacked him and his girlfriend. After almost a year of torturing this guy they finally dropped the charges so I didn't get to serve on that particular jury.
Title: Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
Post by: PegLeg45 on May 07, 2009, 02:53:21 PM
I've never had a problem with jury duty (of course my employer was paying me, which wasn't a factor, but it helped).
The only time I had to ask to be excused was when i was still in bed recovering from serious injuries. It was for Federal court, 100 miles from home, and the summons asked if there was any reason I couldn't serve. I wrote a letter and my doctor signed off on it and I was released. Have not been called since (had served twice before on fed duty).

First time I was called for local court I did try like hell to keep from getting on the jury when they were making selections. I knew the arresting officer (armed robbery case) and when asked if I knew anyone related to the case my hand went right up. Judge asked if that would keep me from being impartial. I couldn't lie, so I said no. Got stuck on the jury, but the guy pleaded out before the trial started the next day.
Title: Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
Post by: 1Buckshot on May 07, 2009, 03:23:08 PM
Yes he did get of the hook, with a stern talking to by the Judge. Hear in Montana that are lenient on you for a number of reasons. As I am self employed they have let me off during the summer season and let me serve during the winter. Ever time I have had to serve though, I new the defendant and told them I couldn't be impartial so thy let me go.
Title: Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
Post by: fightingquaker13 on May 07, 2009, 03:35:50 PM
Yes he did get of the hook, with a stern talking to by the Judge. Hear in Montana that are lenient on you for a number of reasons. As I am self employed they have let me off during the summer season and let me serve during the winter. Ever time I have had to serve though, I new the defendant and told them I couldn't be impartial so thy let me go.
Just shows you're running with the right class of folks. If you knew the prosecutor, I'd be worried. ;D
FQ13
Title: Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 07, 2009, 03:49:05 PM
Just shows you're running with the right class of folks. If you knew the prosecutor, I'd be worried. ;D
FQ13

I agree with FQ's previous post as well. The most important votes you have as a Citizen are on a Jury and a Grand Jury.
Jurors are not ONLY voting the guilt or innocence of the accused but the validity of the law as well.
Jury nullification is a hated but recognized situation where jurors refuse to enforce an unjust law.
Title: Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
Post by: PegLeg45 on May 07, 2009, 04:11:17 PM
I agree with FQ's previous post as well. The most important votes you have as a Citizen are on a Jury and a Grand Jury.
Jurors are not ONLY voting the guilt or innocence of the accused but the validity of the law as well.
Jury nullification is a hated but recognized situation where jurors refuse to enforce an unjust law.

Yep.
In all seriousness, that is exactly the point, indeed. Sort of a layman's system of checks and balances.
Title: Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
Post by: 1Buckshot on May 07, 2009, 04:46:32 PM
I live in town of about 2500 people. Its easy to know most of them in one way or another. The excuse seems to work ::)
Title: Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
Post by: CJS3 on May 07, 2009, 06:20:33 PM
I was called to jury duty on monday. It seems I get a summons every two years. Two years ago I sat on a jury at a criminal court. Monday, the pool I was in, was for a civil trial. I'm never picked at civil trials, because my answers to pre trial questions show my opinions to be based on absolutes. I don't consider the plantiffs feelings.
Title: Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
Post by: Hazcat on May 07, 2009, 06:27:49 PM
I was called to jury duty on monday. It seems I get a summons every two years. Two years ago I sat on a jury at a criminal court. Monday, the pool I was in, was for a civil trial. I'm never picked at civil trials, because my answers to pre trial questions show my opinions to be based on absolutes. I don't consider the plantiffs feelings.

DAMN YOU!  How dare you expect people to understand 'complex' things like right and wrong!






;)





;D
Title: Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
Post by: cooptire on May 08, 2009, 04:16:13 PM
DAMN YOU!  How dare you expect people to understand 'complex' things like right and wrong!






;)





;D


Just can't expect much at all these days, can we?  ;)
Title: Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
Post by: tt11758 on May 08, 2009, 05:08:34 PM
The two times I was called for jury duty it came out during voir dire that I was a former LEO.  Defense attorneys couldn't excuse me quickly enough.
Title: Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
Post by: CJS3 on May 10, 2009, 11:50:13 AM
 ;D I thought the letter was pretty funny,  :o then I saw this;

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090509/D982S7N80.html
Title: Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
Post by: blackwolfe on May 10, 2009, 12:34:08 PM
Received a oerspective quetionaire years ago from the county in regards to possible serving  jury duty.  Answered and returned the questionaire along with a letter stating that I would be happy to serve but requested not to serve during a specific time frame as I had a special vacation trip that had been planned for some time.  Never heard another word from them.

Many years later I was part of the pool and did need to report one day.  Ended up being dismissed.  The county had three trials scheduled that day and all three pleaded at the last moment.  When they called the roll for jury duty that day there were several that had not repoerted.  The  court clerk expressed their displeasure and made it known to the rest of use that the court would follow up on those people who did not show.  About a year later I was present in a court room waiting while some cases were processed.  They had several people there in regards to not showing up for jury duty.  One gal had not only failed to show for jury duty, but had missed a few previous court dates in regards to not reporting.  She got a little time to think about it if she is called to jury duty again.

   
Title: Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
Post by: MikeBjerum on May 10, 2009, 04:22:32 PM
;D I thought the letter was pretty funny,  :o then I saw this;

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090509/D982S7N80.html

Wonder if the guy learned his lesson about jury duty, or is he still clueless?

He ignores his Right and duty to participate in the system, and then complains when the system is broken.

Just like you don't have a right to complain about who is in office if you didn't exercise your duty to vote ...

You can't complain about a broken court system if you are part of the problem.

I have been called for jury duty five times, selected once, three times the cases were settled prior to trial start (the first two during the selection process and the third after jury was seated), and the other two times I wrote letters asking to be excused due to business needs (once I was in school working toward the degree needed for licensing and the other I had just switched to my current position as manager of a new business) - both times they granted my leave.
Title: Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
Post by: PegLeg45 on May 10, 2009, 06:29:38 PM
Received a oerspective quetionaire years ago from the county in regards to possible serving  jury duty.  Answered and returned the questionaire along with a letter stating that I would be happy to serve but requested not to serve during a specific time frame as I had a special vacation trip that had been planned for some time.  Never heard another word from them.

Many years later I was part of the pool and did need to report one day.  Ended up being dismissed.  The county had three trials scheduled that day and all three pleaded at the last moment.  When they called the roll for jury duty that day there were several that had not repoerted.  The  court clerk expressed their displeasure and made it known to the rest of use that the court would follow up on those people who did not show.  About a year later I was present in a court room waiting while some cases were processed.  They had several people there in regards to not showing up for jury duty.  One gal had not only failed to show for jury duty, but had missed a few previous court dates in regards to not reporting.  She got a little time to think about it if she is called to jury duty again.
  

That reminds me of the first time I was called for jury duty. There was a pool of 100 names and over a quarter of the folks didn't show. The judge happened to have a particular pet peeve about folks whom neglected their civic duties, and after roll call he promptly asked the High Sheriff to come forward. He told the clerk to hand over a list of no-shows to the sheriff, and for said sheriff to seek out as to why those people were not sitting in his courtroom. He said those that were able to be contacted were to be informed that if they could be in court before the lunch recess, they would only be fined $300. If they came in after lunch they would be fined $600, and if they didn't show by the end of the day a bench warrant would be drawn up for failure to appear.
Half of them showed within the next hour, five or six more came in after lunch, two had moved out of the county and one had passed away. I think it was about three or so that had warrants issued.

Title: Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
Post by: Pathfinder on May 10, 2009, 07:18:47 PM
That reminds me of the first time I was called for jury duty. There was a pool of 100 names and over a quarter of the folks didn't show. The judge happened to have a particular pet peeve about folks whom neglected their civic duties, and after roll call he promptly asked the High Sheriff to come forward. He told the clerk to hand over a list of no-shows to the sheriff, and for said sheriff to seek out as to why those people were not sitting in his courtroom. He said those that were able to be contacted were to be informed that if they could be in court before the lunch recess, they would only be fined $300. If they came in after lunch they would be fined $600, and if they didn't show by the end of the day a bench warrant would be drawn up for failure to appear.
Half of them showed within the next hour, five or six more came in after lunch, two had moved out of the county and one had passed away. I think it was about three or so that had warrants issued.


Live near Nottingham, do we?   ;D  :D  ;D  :D   ;)
Title: Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
Post by: PegLeg45 on May 10, 2009, 07:32:00 PM
Live near Nottingham, do we?   ;D  :D  ;D  :D   ;)

So shoot me...I'm a tad old-fashioned......... ;D  ;D 

It's a term still used in this neck of the woods........





Now, as Yon Daffy Duck (whilst portraying Robin Hood) said, "yoiks and away..............."







 ;)