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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: tombogan03884 on May 11, 2009, 08:41:41 PM
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I have not checked this out on Snopes,
Obama has been in office for two months. Now we have HR 1388.
The Bill was sponsored by Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY) and 37 others.
The Bill was introduced to the floor of the House of Representatives where both Republicans and Democrats voted 321-105 in favor.
Next it goes to the Senate for a vote and then on to President Obama.
This bill is called “Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education” (GIVE).
It forms what some are calling “Obama’s Youth Brigade.” Obama’s plan is require anyone receiving school loans and others to serve at least three months as part of the brigade. His goal is one million youth! This has serious Nazi Germany overtones to it.
The Bill would forbid any student, while in the brigade from participation in “engaging in religious instruction, conducting worship services, providing instruction as part of a program that includes mandatory religious instruction or worship, constructing or operating facilities devoted to religious instruction or worship, maintaining facilities primarily or inherently devoted to religious instruction or worship, or engaging in any form of religious proselytization.”
That means no church attendance or witnessing. Again, is this what America voted for?
Here is part of the HR1388 Bill’s wording:
SEC. 1304. PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES AND INELIGIBLE ORGANIZATIONS.
Section 125 (42 U.S.C. 12575) is amended to read as follows:
SEC. 125. PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES AND INELIGIBLE ORGANIZATIONS.
(a) Prohibited Activities- A participant in an approved national service position under this subtitle may not engage in the following activities:
(1) Attempting to influence legislation.
(2) Organizing or engaging in protests, petitions, boycotts, or strikes.
(7) Engaging in religious instruction, conducting worship services, providing instruction as part of a program that includes mandatory religious instruction or worship, constructing or operating facilities devoted to religious instruction or worship, maintaining facilities primarily or inherently devoted to religious instruction or worship, or engaging in any form of religious proselytization.
Here are some additional sources of info on th is subject.
http://www.rules.house.gov/111/cbo/cbo_estimate_hr1388.pdf
http://rsc.tomprice.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=115008
http://beltwayblips.dailyradar.com/story/tucked_into_obama_s_civil_service_bill_hr_1388_no/
http://rightsoup.com/tucked-into-obamas-civil-service-bill-h-r-1388-no-protesting-allowed/
http://catsden.wordpress.com/2009/03/28/hr-1388-educating-students-in-service-part-ii-chicago-school-reform-1995-2001/
http://www.tsrn.u s/blog/2009/03/23/emergency-senate-voting-on-the-forced-servitude-bill-hb-1388-this-monday-323-communism-is-being-forced-down-your-throat/
http://thefinalhour.blogspot.com/2009/03/hr-1388-bans-national-service.html
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Reminds me of the Hitler Youth.
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This is yet another clear view into the mind and plan of the "Messiah" Lord Obama. If this is not enough to clear the Cobwebs out out of the heads of the American people then, I can guarantee you nothing but an active Revolution will. While I do not openly believe that a true revolution is what is needed I am not discounting the possibility that the day is nearing that we will be facing the same choice as the German people who fought against Hitler and much the same as the French Resistance fighters of the 1940's. What line does this nutjob have to cross that something will be done to openly and honestly oppose his clear attempt to UNDERMINE the CONSTITUTION of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. This is a clear violation of the Presidential Oath of Office and an open attempt when combine with his other actions (Seizing the financial institutions, giving ownership of GM, Chrysler to UAW, Note the President does not have the authority under any law to do so) is openly treasonous. There I said it.
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The average American has become a clueless sheep who will tolerate absolutely ANYTHING and DESERVES what will be the inevitable result.
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Obama may be an idiot, but he's not stupid, easy to take a knee jerk reaction and throw out the "Hitler Youth" call. Remember, he is not slamming "assault weapon bans", or microstamping ammo, all at one time either. He distanced himself from Holder's statement regarding AWB pretty quickly. Biding his time.
He is a methodical, calculating piece of a far left party, that has plans to continue this crap past his presidency. Pelosi won't be Speaker of the House forever, but to get the continuation of the same mindset after she leaves is the goal.
This originally was on his website as an "involuntary" social contribution for our nations youth, than two days after being elected;
went away..... Timing is everything.
The far left will "nibble" at the foundation of liberty and freedom eventually causing the structure to collapse. Yes they rely on the lemmings of America to just watch American Idol,shut up, and await with them until the run for the cliff... at the cliff...it will be too late.
It's not going to hit you like a train, it will be more like a quicksand...Slowly, and a little at a time...
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The far left will "nibble" at the foundation of liberty and freedom eventually causing the structure to collapse. Yes they rely on the lemmings of America to just watch American Idol,shut up, and await with them until the run for the cliff... at the cliff...it will be too late.
It's not going to hit you like a train, it will be more like a quicksand...Slowly, and a little at a time...
+1000 to that
By your comments, it seems like you are calling Leftist a bunch of termites. Sounds like a perfectly good comparison to me. Too bad there is no 800 number for exterminators. ;)
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+1000 to that
By your comments, it seems like you are calling Leftist a bunch of termites. Sounds like a perfectly good comparison to me. Too bad there is no 800 number for exterminators. ;)
No it's a toll call, and a damned expensive one. The number is 308-223-3006.
Think about it. . . . .
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No it's a toll call, and a damned expensive one. The number is 308-223-3006.
Think about it. . . . .
;D I did, I think the alternate number is 380-357-4445
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872-1776
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419-1776 X2
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Its the license plate thread all over again!
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In "Democracy in America," Alexis de Tocqueville anticipated people being governed by "an immense, tutelary power" determined to take "sole charge of assuring their enjoyment and of watching over their fate." It would be a power "absolute, attentive to detail, regular, provident and gentle," aiming for our happiness but wanting "to be the only agent and the sole arbiter of that happiness." It would, Tocqueville said, provide people security, anticipate their needs, direct their industries and divide their inheritances. It would envelop society in "a network of petty regulations -- complicated, minute and uniform." But softly: "It does not break wills; it softens them, bends them, and directs them" until people resemble "a herd of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd."
Taken from this column by Greorge Will
http://townhall.com/columnists/GeorgeWill/2009/05/10/upside-down_economy
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The average American has become a clueless sheep who will tolerate absolutely ANYTHING and DESERVES what will be the inevitable result.
That's the good news, they do deserve their just desserts, the bad news is that they are taking us down with them.
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Has anyone had the time or taken the time to dig into this to see if it is true? I'm embarrassed to say I haven't taken the time, but I have been hearing this from different sources for quite a while. This thread is not the first time I've seen or heard that list, and almost every source is the same.
The commentaries I've heard over the months is that this is a plan to homogenize our society to a (pick your term)* quivering mass >:(
* my term - Spinless mass of goo with strings leading to the puppeteers contols
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Has anyone had the time or taken the time to dig into this to see if it is true? I'm embarrassed to say I haven't taken the time, but I have been hearing this from different sources for quite a while. This thread is not the first time I've seen or heard that list, and almost every source is the same.
The commentaries I've heard over the months is that this is a plan to homogenize our society to a (pick your term)* quivering mass >:(
* my term - Spinless mass of goo with strings leading to the puppeteers contols
In other words, made over in the image or Obama, who dances to the strings of the puppeteers Soros and Ayers?