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Title: Ruger P-94 or SigSauer 228
Post by: WyoJoe on May 18, 2009, 03:58:22 PM
I am somewhat debating which to use for my carry gun.

The Ruger is .40 S&W & is about the upper limit I enjoy for rapid fire. It has grips with the finger grooves which aids me in recoil recovery. It also fits my hand well. The thing I don't like about it is that it does not have a decocking lever.

The Sig is 9mm & is easy to decock. It fits my hand fairly well.

I have multiple clips for both. If you hold both of them with the grip almost level with the ground will eject a full clip when you hit the clip release. I figured this is a good thing if a person is in a sustained fight.

On targets I am about equal with both.

I have a ParaOrdnance 1911 but it is bigger and harder for me to conceal. It will not eject the clip when I hit the clip release, you have to physically pull it out. But I realize a good pistol smith can fix that. It will be relegated to the house.

I confess In am leaning towards the Ruger but would like to hear a reasoned dicussion for either one
Title: Re: Ruger P-94 or SigSauer 228
Post by: ericire12 on May 18, 2009, 04:10:58 PM
Sig
Title: Re: Ruger P-94 or SigSauer 228
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 18, 2009, 04:33:30 PM
If you like them both so well you can't decide I would go with the bigger hole.
9mm may expand perfectly, but the .40 will not shrink.
Title: Re: Ruger P-94 or SigSauer 228
Post by: Hazcat on May 18, 2009, 04:34:02 PM
I am somewhat debating which to use for my carry gun.

The Ruger is .40 S&W & is about the upper limit I enjoy for rapid fire. It has grips with the finger grooves which aids me in recoil recovery. It also fits my hand well. The thing I don't like about it is that it does not have a decocking lever.

The Sig is 9mm & is easy to decock. It fits my hand fairly well.

I have multiple clips   for both. If you hold both of them with the grip almost level with the ground will eject a full clip  when you hit the clip release. I figured this is a good thing if a person is in a sustained fight.

On targets I am about equal with both.

I have a ParaOrdnance 1911 but it is bigger and harder for me to conceal. It will not eject the clip when I hit the clip release, you have to physically pull it out. But I realize a good pistol smith can fix that. It will be relegated to the house.

I confess In am leaning towards the Ruger but would like to hear a reasoned dicussion for either one

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Title: Re: Ruger P-94 or SigSauer 228
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 18, 2009, 04:37:50 PM
WyoJoe, Guess what Haz's pet peeve is  ;D
Title: Re: Ruger P-94 or SigSauer 228
Post by: ericire12 on May 18, 2009, 04:39:14 PM
WyoJoe, Guess what Haz's pet peeve is  ;D

He got clipped!
Title: Re: Ruger P-94 or SigSauer 228
Post by: ericire12 on May 18, 2009, 04:41:10 PM
If you like them both so well you can't decide I would go with the bigger hole.
9mm may expand perfectly, but the .40 will not shrink.

http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=1896.0
Title: Re: Ruger P-94 or SigSauer 228
Post by: dj454 on May 18, 2009, 04:42:07 PM
I saw that and I was waiting for it. It makes me laugh everytime.
Title: Re: Ruger P-94 or SigSauer 228
Post by: Trevor on May 19, 2009, 12:12:58 PM
Most people will advise the Sig because it is popular.  In contrast, I advise the Ruger because it is a rugged piece of equipment that will endure the tough use you put it through. 
Title: Re: Ruger P-94 or SigSauer 228
Post by: ericire12 on May 19, 2009, 12:15:11 PM
Most people will advise the Sig because it is popular.  In contrast, I advise the Ruger because it is a rugged piece of equipment that will endure the tough use you put it through. 

Are you saying that the Sig will not?
Title: Re: Ruger P-94 or SigSauer 228
Post by: jaybet on May 19, 2009, 01:29:03 PM
Not because the Sig is popular, but because the Sig is a better gun than the Ruger semi...always was.
Title: Re: Ruger P-94 or SigSauer 228
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 19, 2009, 01:58:43 PM
Most people will advise the Sig because it is popular.  In contrast, I advise the Ruger because it is a rugged piece of equipment that will endure the tough use you put it through. 

So, what you are saying is the US Navy Seals use the Sig because of the "cool"factor ?
Title: Re: Ruger P-94 or SigSauer 228
Post by: Rob10ring on May 19, 2009, 02:07:54 PM
Because you are leaning toward the Ruger, pick the Ruger. That's probably the best reason to pick that particular gun for you. It sounds like you have the most confidence with your Ruger. I have a friend who is a cop here that carries a Sig in .40 on-duty and prefers his 94 off-duty. Reliability is going to be most important and both are pretty reliable guns.

 The Sigs only fit my hand fairly well too.
Title: Re: Ruger P-94 or SigSauer 228
Post by: Trevor on May 19, 2009, 02:58:09 PM
Yes, the Sig has a "cool" factor that makes it attractive to many people.  So be it.  I make it a point to keep my distance from the Kool Kids.

As for my own opinion of Sig, the owners of this board still have in place a policy (I believe) that prohibits product bashing and general crusades against a firearms manufacturer.  To remain in compliance with their wishes, I will follow Mom's advice: If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all. 

I will take a Beretta 92FS any day over a Sig P226.  In fact, I have.

As for the Ruger, it will not win any beauty contests, but it will handle the .40 Auto cartridge well and keep going despite what one may throw at it.  I understand that Ruger wants to follow the prevailing trends with its SR9, but I hope it does not abandon the P Series of pistols, which are vastly under-rated weapons. 
Title: Re: Ruger P-94 or SigSauer 228
Post by: Ping on May 19, 2009, 05:27:54 PM
Can't believe no one mentioned Glock out of the choice between a Sig and a Ruger.  ;D Trevor, my only advice is choose what you are comfortable with but I would suggest the .40 S&W as tombogan mentioned.
Title: Re: Ruger P-94 or SigSauer 228
Post by: twyacht on May 19, 2009, 06:57:11 PM
Love my M+P!!!,.. whoops,....wrong thread,..

Seriously, both are good pistols. Creature comforts and  "feel" will be the deciding factor for you.

As I have posted before, sometimes the "right" one picks you.

My FN 9mm and M+P .40 did,...




Title: Re: Ruger P-94 or SigSauer 228
Post by: fightingquaker13 on May 19, 2009, 07:49:47 PM
To keep Ping happy, I'll mention Glock. If the question was which gun to BUY, that would be my choice. The question was, which of the guns you already own to carry. They are obviously both reliable, or you wouldn't be asking this question. You are obviously saisfied with accuracy, or you wouldn't be asking. The question then is which is most comfortable, most concealable, and easiest to operate under stress? I've never shot either and don't have a clue. You have, just take them to the range, shoot some close range shillouette froom the holster, and make your call. Just my .02.
FQ13
Title: Re: Ruger P-94 or SigSauer 228
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 19, 2009, 10:56:03 PM
Actually after thinking about it, I would say take the first one your hand falls on, carry it for a week, then repeat with the other, the one that you forget you are wearing is the one to go with.
Title: Re: Ruger P-94 or SigSauer 228
Post by: Sgt Z Squad on May 20, 2009, 05:44:36 AM
Need you ask? ;D
Title: Re: Ruger P-94 or SigSauer 228
Post by: Trevor on May 20, 2009, 01:28:51 PM
I am still waiting for Ruger to chamber the P90 in 10mm Auto.  Please.
Title: Re: Ruger P-94 or SigSauer 228
Post by: Big Frank on May 20, 2009, 08:08:01 PM
I think I would rather carry a .40 than a 9mm. The brand of gun doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Ruger P-94 or SigSauer 228
Post by: MAUSERMAN on May 21, 2009, 01:23:18 AM
Use what feels good in the hand, never use something that fits poorly. If the Sig works for you go for it. I use a G26 as a carry piece because its accurate and fits like a glove.
Title: Re: Ruger P-94 or SigSauer 228
Post by: WyoJoe on May 21, 2009, 08:35:59 AM
Use what feels good in the hand, never use something that fits poorly. If the Sig works for you go for it. I use a G26 as a carry piece because its accurate and fits like a glove.

I was checking things out last night & the Ruger does fit my hand better. The Sig is OK but the trigger is just a shade to far forward to fit my hand perfectly. Also I like the thought of a bigger hole with the 40. So it looks like that is what I will be carrying.
Title: Re: Ruger P-94 or SigSauer 228
Post by: Ping on May 21, 2009, 08:41:40 AM
WyoJoe said: Also I like the thought of a bigger hole with the 40.

Good choice Joe. Only thing better is a .45 in my book.
Title: Re: Ruger P-94 or SigSauer 228
Post by: Scott D on May 21, 2009, 09:48:27 AM
There is a lot of discussion about "which gun" for this or that. The two considerations are reliability and reasonable power.If both guns are reliable  the power difference is minimal. Use what you like as long as it fits your hand. I like Sigs over Ruger but that is personal taste and nothing more.  Choose what you like and don't look back.
Title: Re: Ruger P-94 or SigSauer 228
Post by: ratcatcher55 on May 21, 2009, 10:36:22 AM
I carried a M-11 /Sig 228 for years and it went bang every time.

Very easy to maintain. Wasn't not ammo sensitive.

It should be smaller and easier to conceal than the Ruger.

If you can, go to a range and try both from concealment.

Ruger make a good pistol, just clunkier and heavier than it needs to be IMHO.

40 S&W is a a waste of gunpowder.  ;)

Title: Re: Ruger P-94 or SigSauer 228
Post by: WyoJoe on May 21, 2009, 01:54:05 PM
Ratcatcher55,
You are right the Sigs are dependable. Mine was given to me by my brother who is a navy cop.
Title: Re: Ruger P-94 or SigSauer 228
Post by: Trevor on May 26, 2009, 12:54:38 PM
I see that Ruger has discontinued the P-89.  The .40 & .45 versions of the P Series may soon follow.  If you like these pistols, get them while you can.  I guess I should give up on the idea of a 10mm one.