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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: tombogan03884 on May 22, 2009, 08:14:41 PM
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Since that POS got nominated there have been a few posts made that drew criticism about "Racism". Well I would like to take this opportunity to clarify some things. The people who make these accusations are Hypocrites, B O took 96% of the black vote, leading dems made comments like "If you don't vote for Obama you are a racist", The ONLY ones who mentioned race during the campaign were the dems. The rest of us would not have cared if he was green, we still would not have voted for the no experience damn communist.
If we now use the worst stereotypes of blacks to ridicule him, (what does Obama's election mean, one more black family in public housing) it is not because we are racist, it is because we do not respect this windsock that got elected by liberal white guilt. (or the fools that voted for some one with such a questionable background, no experience, and no loyalty) You will notice that these types of comments are NOT made about Condi Rice,or Thomas Sowell who we all respect. Even Colin Powell, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton who we DISAGREE with strongly are not ridiculed this way. The reason for that is simple, whether we agree with them or not we recognize that they EARNED their positions through hard work. BO on the other hand has never worked at anything in his life beyond BS kissing socialist ass.
Also, the majority of the people who post here are supporters of the Constitution, and the GOD GIVEN rights enshrined there, not the intellectual fascism that is called political correctness.
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good post Tom
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DAMN RIGHT! >:(
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Good post Tom. I think Walter Williams would agree.
Proclamation of Amnesty and Pardon Granted to
All Persons of European Descent
Whereas, Europeans kept my forebears in bondage some three centuries toiling without pay,
Whereas, Europeans ignored the human rights pledges of the Declaration of Independence and the United States Constitution,
Whereas, the Emancipation Proclamation, the Thirteenth and Fourteenth Amendments meant little more than empty words,
Therefore, Americans of European ancestry are guilty of great crimes against my ancestors and their progeny.
But, in the recognition Europeans themselves have been victims of various and sundry human rights violations to wit: the Norman Conquest, the Irish Potato Famine, Decline of the Hapsburg Dynasty, Napoleonic and Czarist adventurism, and gratuitous insults and speculations about the intelligence of Europeans of Polish descent,
I, Walter E. Williams, do declare full and general amnesty and pardon to all persons of European ancestry, for both their own grievances, and those of their forebears, against my people.
Therefore, from this day forward Americans of European ancestry can stand straight and proud knowing they are without guilt and thus obliged not to act like damn fools in their relationships with Americans of African ancestry.
Walter E. Williams, Gracious and Generous Grantor
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DAMN FREAKIN' STRAIGHT!!
There are too many people out there afraid to voice their opinion of BHO basically because they aren't the same COLOR as him. They know if they say anything against the Exalted One, the libtards and finger pointers will immediately claim RACISM. ex. Janeane Garofalo
Some one comments that he is spending money like 'no tomorrow' (which there may not be, the way things are going now). As soon as that is said, some hypocritical moron will immediately scream out, "Is it because he's black? You saying black people don't know how to manage their money?" NO!!! It's because HE, as an INDIVIDUAL (<--loosely used because of the real string pullers out there), is a complete and total idiot!
I'm going to stop now before I pop a blood vessel in my forehead.
And Tom... I'm sure some of those libtard hypocrites will be on this one shortly to offer their view points.
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I'm sure some of those libtard hypocrites will be on this one shortly to offer their view points.
They're like herpes. They may disappear for awhile, but they always come back when you don't want them to. ;D
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They're like herpes. They may disappear for awhile, but they always come back when you don't want them to. ;D
I guess thats my cue. ;D Honestly Tom I don't much disagree with you. I do think that there is such an abundance of things to critisize Obama, or Condi or Keyes over that race shouldn't come into it, because why? A bonehead is a bonehead. The only time it is legit is if they play the race card first ala Al Sharpton or Garafolo. If someone says you only think x about someone because they're, black, mexican, gay whatever, then unload. As far as white guilt, who's asking for that that's worth listening to? History is history, we can't change it. My family DID own slaves and my great grand daddy was in the klan. I'm not proud of that, but I feel zero guilt either. I didn't get a vote, ergo not my problem. I do think we need to do two things, one be aware of racism, structural and individual where it exists and strive to change t in a sane and measured manner. Two, be mindful of how others might perceive our comments when speaking on a public forum. Thats not liberal guilt or PC doctrine, its just good manners.
FQ13 the unguilty liberal (well Libertarian but close enough in these parts)
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I've worked all over the US.
The area with the most racism is....
The midwest, most was from black to white.
It was also the part of the country that had most people with the "IMO" of " its owed to me"
oddly enough, the place where there was the least ammount of racism was the south.
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I saw the same thing as TAB when I was working in Richmond, Virginia. I was actually stopped and told that I couldn't go to the black side of the street.
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The places other than the southwest where I experienced racial problems were in Indiana and Utah. Some of the better places were in the South, especially Tennessee. Had some problems in Seattle but attribute that to some idiots as most people there at other times were pretty good.
Like TAB, I worked/travelled in a lot of states.
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I also worked all over the country track signage and exhibits for Nissan and Fram/Autolite. The entire Country has some racism to some extent and it comes from every ethnicity and class. To me, people are only responsible for the things they have a choice in, not anything they are born with. People of any race can choose to be idiots, or even evil.
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Tab said: "The midwest, most was from black to white."
You are right on the money TAB. The only other place where I saw "reverse discrimination", argued with a Civil Rights rep over this one, was in Sikeston, Missouri. I get sick and f-ing tired of being guilty for being white. And I am part Cherokee. ;D
The attitude is that of the ignorant. Racism is racism.
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Tab said: "The midwest, most was from black to white."
You are right on the money TAB. The only other place where I saw "reverse discrimination", argued with a Civil Rights rep over this one, was in Sikeston, Missouri. I get sick and f-ing tired of being guilty for being white. And I am part Cherokee. ;D
The attitude is that of the ignorant entitled. Racism is racism.
Fixed it. But right on with the comment, although the racism I have seen is pretty prevalent across the country, not just in the Midwest. And I too have worked or lived (while working) all over the country.
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Give it up mother f$$K=R = RACISM ;)
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To nudge back toward my original point (after the way I've helped twist some of the threads on here I can't complain about minor thread drift ;D ) I am not saying racism doesn't exist, my answer to MOST (not all ) of it that I have seen is " You were never a slave, and I never owned any, so shut up and do your job or starve, I don't care which." My answer to the rest of it is "if skin color is the only reason you can find to hate some one then they must be OK. "
My original point was that we already hated B O, we simply use the stereotype insults because the comments about him being a crooked, do nothing, lying,communist with loyalty to no one but himself get old and we occasionally would like new material to insult him with in order to express the disdain we hold for him.
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I am racist!!!
I hate the Relay, The Marathon, 100 and 1000 yard dash, never cared much for the Iron Man and I can't stand the egg in the spoon, sack or three legged.
I do on the other hand like the Tour de France. Therefore, I prefer one race over another and I am racist. Although, I am not influcenced one way or the other by the amount of pigment in one's skin.
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I don't care what color someone is. I don't like trash no matter what color it is. I don't respect people that blame everyone and everything else for their failure to help themselves. I refuse to be blamed or feel guilt for their perceived wrongs. My direct ancestors were not in this country until well after slavery and the civil war. They came here legally, worked hard, did well, and prospered through hard work, patience, and fiscal responsibility. They survived the great depresion and the dust bowl. Is there racim, yes. I've seen raciism on several sides and it's not pretty. I've worked in a 90% minority community and have experienced racism first hand. Ive seen the race card played often and effectively. I'm tired of race and racism being used as an excuse to do better and be better.
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I can't be a racist, I'm Scots Irish, we're like the negros of the anglo world. ;D
I feel oppressed. ;)
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I can't be a racist, I'm Scots Irish, we're like the negros of the anglo world. ;D
I feel oppressed. ;)
I've found that if we stop wearing skirts in public it helps a lot. ;D
FQ13
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You won't hear me whining about the days when they had signs "No Irish need apply".
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You won't hear me whining about the days when they had signs "No Irish need apply".
Or inventing a psuedo-english language, making up words, phrases, code-words, etc. And if it has 4 letters it's ok, no more than 5 allowed! Or celebrating made-up holidays (stolen from others) or stopping their cars in the middle of the highway to 'rap' - won't even pull over (usually 2 cars abreast!). Not to mention 'music' (as they call it) from their boom boxes & cars until the nuts & bolts vibrate off as well as anyone nearby (within a mile). Granted we have some of all races that have adopted this 'culture'. They have been called many things including N-word with a W (for wannabe), but I call them all Obama voters.
Who cares what color you are as long as you are polite, educated, sincere & moral - they don't need to be my values, but at least have some!!! I met one of the most intelligent, educated & nicest person you could ever want to meet last week while i was in South Carolina. You could talk to this guy for hours & although you may not agree with everything he says or does, he at least has convictions that he upholds (not from the courts either!!). Oh & he was black, not that it matters & what a great family he had too. We need diversity in this country, but not stupidity or prejudice - all people can & do get along when they wish & then there are the others....
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I can't be a racist, I'm Scots Irish, we're like the negros of the anglo world. ;D
I feel oppressed. ;)
Actually, it's worse than that. Irishmen were the negros of the negro world in New Orleans. The aristocracy of New Orleans sacrificed tens of thousands of Irish lives building a canal system. They died in such numbers that some are buried in the levees in some places. Irishmen were cheap. They entered the nation legally and were treated far worse than black slaves or the illegal Mexican hordes that stream across our borders today.
In comparison with today's population....I suspect it's like millions dying over a few years with nary a wimper and barely a footnote in history.
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Hell i'm Italian Mexican then really OPPressed.
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Watched the movie with Tom Berenger about the San Patricios two days ago. The San Patricios were a group of Irish men that deserted the American Army because of the racism against them by non-Catholics and American born soldiers. In on scene, a guy is on a city street, holding a newspaper with an article decrying about how the Irish are stealing jobs from real Americans. How ironic when you read and hear the comments of the illegals coming over now. I know, "it's different" than back then.
John Casas wrote a book "Federico Villalba's Texas". It is about Federico Villalba, immigrated to the Big Bend area of Texas in the early 1900's. Federico Villalba was my great-uncle and John Casas is his great-grandson. My aunt, sister of my father, 98 years old, remembers the family and my great-uncle. It is available from Iron Mountain Press and Barnes and Noble carries it. Good reading.
My father's family in the mid-1800's used to farm in the Big Bend country and return to Mexico for the winter. In 1870, my great-grandfather decided to stay in Texas. My grandfather was two years old, born in Mexico. The stories of racism in Texas against Mexicans, born here or Mexico are endless. From this family, we have family members serving the US military and fighting in every war since WWI.
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Any serious study of racism IN AMERICA will lead you to realize that there were ALWAYS underlying economic pressures at work.
Examples, Whites wanted to farm the land the Indians were hunting on so they must be inferior as were not "properly" utilizing the land, when they fought back to keep what they considered theirs they became "savages" not fit to live.
Americans moving into the Southwest also wanted farmland so the more laid back "Mexicans" became "lazy" and needed to be got rid of, never mind that they had owned the land since stealing it from the Indians generations earlier. Anti black racism got its real start after the Civil war in the North when freed slaves came north to work in the factories where they were competing for jobs with the flood of European immigrants. The common factor was that in all cases someone stood to gain through lower costs of land or labor by keeping groups divided.
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Since that POS got nominated there have been a few posts made that drew criticism about "Racism". Well I would like to take this opportunity to clarify some things. The people who make these accusations are Hypocrites, B O took 96% of the black vote, leading dems made comments like "If you don't vote for Obama you are a racist", The ONLY ones who mentioned race during the campaign were the dems. The rest of us would not have cared if he was green, we still would not have voted for the no experience damn communist.
If we now use the worst stereotypes of blacks to ridicule him, (what does Obama's election mean, one more black family in public housing) it is not because we are racist, it is because we do not respect this windsock that got elected by liberal white guilt. (or the fools that voted for some one with such a questionable background, no experience, and no loyalty) You will notice that these types of comments are NOT made about Condi Rice,or Thomas Sowell who we all respect. Even Colin Powell, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton who we DISAGREE with strongly are not ridiculed this way. The reason for that is simple, whether we agree with them or not we recognize that they EARNED their positions through hard work. BO on the other hand has never worked at anything in his life beyond BS kissing socialist ass.
Also, the majority of the people who post here are supporters of the Constitution, and the GOD GIVEN rights enshrined there, not the intellectual fascism that is called political correctness.
Back to the original post - 1000+
And the 'racist' joke is still one of the funniest out there & it only offends those with no sense of humor. Get over it!! There are much more important things to worry about - like our country surviving BHo's onslaught. Get rid of him & his minions now!!!!!!
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Back to the original post - 1000+
And the 'racist' joke is still one of the funniest out there & it only offends those with no sense of humor. Get over it!! There are much more important things to worry about - like our country surviving BHo's onslaught. Get rid of him & his minions now!!!!!!
BHO IS a "racist joke".
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Just calling him the "first african-american president" is a racist statement.
What about the cracker half?? The african half trumps the cracker half somehow? I don't think so!
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Just calling him the "first african-american president" is a racist statement.
What about the cracker half?? The african half trumps the cracker half somehow? I don't think so!
Actually he's only something like 20% african-american, with the rest being a mixture of arab, cracker, etc. What we used to call a mutt.
Don't takte that the wrong way.......I'm not attacking him for not being full-blooded-something, I'm just saying. Besides, there's plenty of other sh*t to take him to task for LONG before his heritage comes into play.
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We have a little racist in us its just the way the world is. Look im Italian and mexican, i look like someone on the sopranos crew that eats carne asada burritos instead of pasta. Mexican Italian i dont hate i tolerate.
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......... Look im Italian and mexican,........
Soooooooooo.............how are the spaghetti tacos? ;D
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Every group divides the world into "Us" and "Them", Gun Owners vs Grabbers, Labor Vs Management, Military Vs Civilian, Cops Vs Civilians. White Vs other races is just more of the same, If we did not do this there would be no last names, but all humanity thinks it makes a difference whether you are a Smith or a Jones.
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Every group divides the world into "Us" and "Them", Gun Owners vs Grabbers, Labor Vs Management, Military Vs Civilian, Cops Vs Civilians. White Vs other races is just more of the same, If we did not do this there would be no last names, but all humanity thinks it makes a difference whether you are a Smith or a Jones.
I agree. It's pretty much human nature to prefer whatever you are over whatever others are. That's just pride. Sadly, the state run media will never get it or get over it.
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Heck that sounds good im going to make some right now. Spicy sausage burritos are killer.