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Title: Old Savage Porn....aka Granddad Porn
Post by: Timothy on May 30, 2009, 12:55:26 PM: Well, I was giving Granddads old squirrel gun it's bi-annual rub down and decided to share. She hasn't been fired in 27 years but with .22 shorts it should be OK... MSRP $12.00 in 1903...

Savage Model of 1903....Pump Action, detachable 8 round magazine...(Hi-Cap in MA)
(http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo283/tsbevins/Savage1903002.jpg)
Full Frontal
(http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo283/tsbevins/Savage1903004.jpg)
Fine piece of furniture
(http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo283/tsbevins/Savage1903003.jpg)
Bluing or should I say browning...action still silky..
(http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo283/tsbevins/Savage1903006.jpg)
Simple pump fore end..
(http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo283/tsbevins/Savage1903005.jpg)
Octagonal Barrel...
(http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo283/tsbevins/sav_1903_1903.jpg)
Schematic of mechanism from 1903 Advertisement
Title: Re: Old Savage Porn....aka Granddad Porn
Post by: blackwolfe on May 30, 2009, 01:07:37 PM: Love that old porn Timothy. I have my Grandpa's old Remington Model 12A that he bought new in 1920 or 21, he couldn't remember when. It's all beat up and about shot out from 50+ years as a working farm gun riding on the tractor or in the pickup. Not worth much in $, put priceless to me for the memories. It was the first rifle I ever shot.

I need to figure out how to use a digital camera and post pics when I can find the time.
Title: Re: Old Savage Porn....aka Granddad Porn
Post by: Hazcat on May 30, 2009, 01:34:00 PM: That is a PURTY gun! .22 shorts only?
Title: Re: Old Savage Porn....aka Granddad Porn
Post by: Timothy on May 30, 2009, 01:54:50 PM: Quote from: Hazcat on May 30, 2009, 01:34:00 PM
That is a PURTY gun! .22 shorts only?

No Haz, .22 SR or LR....the problem is the firing pin has been hammering away at the breach so long that it's made a little notch. When the higher pressure LR fire, the case expands into that notch and the extractor can't pull it free from the chamber.
Shooting shorts they extract and eject OK. It functions fine, or did the last I fired it which was back in '83. Since then it's been in a safe in CT at my brothers house. I brought it into MA last year and other than clean it, she's been locked away.

I just registered it today and had to laugh because I had to check the "Hi-Capacity" box.....tube fed mags are OK even though they hold more rounds...what a f*@#ed up state!
Title: Re: Old Savage Porn....aka Granddad Porn
Post by: tt11758 on May 30, 2009, 01:58:40 PM: Quote from: Timothy on May 30, 2009, 01:54:50 PM
what a f*@#ed up state!

You're just now figuring that out, Tim? ;D
Title: Re: Old Savage Porn....aka Granddad Porn
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 30, 2009, 02:01:56 PM: It's properly represented by a queer, a Gigolo and a brain damaged drunk.
Title: Re: Old Savage Porn....aka Granddad Porn
Post by: Timothy on May 30, 2009, 02:05:01 PM: Quote from: tt11758 on May 30, 2009, 01:58:40 PM
You're just now figuring that out, Tim? ;D

No, I knew when I move up here in '97..that's why my long guns have been locked up 70 miles south at big Bro's house. He had to get them out of the house because his son has a felony DWI. Sometimes shit happens to good people! Anyway, if ya read the rules and play by them it's not so bad.

I just yank the big lever marked GOP and hope for the best! Teddy should be gone soon, Lord knows who the Governor will replace him with.
Title: Re: Old Savage Porn....aka Granddad Porn
Post by: Timothy on May 30, 2009, 02:06:18 PM: Quote from: tombogan03884 on May 30, 2009, 02:01:56 PM
It's ~~properly~~ POORLY represented by a queer, a Gigolo and a brain damaged drunk.

Hope ya don't mind the edit Tom!
Title: Re: Old Savage Porn....aka Granddad Porn
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 30, 2009, 02:24:29 PM: Quote from: Timothy on May 30, 2009, 02:06:18 PM
Hope ya don't mind the edit Tom!

No it fits them.

By the way, Cool Rifle ;D
Title: Re: Old Savage Porn....aka Granddad Porn
Post by: Ping on May 30, 2009, 02:28:35 PM: I have never seen one of these rifle's before with a box magazine. My great grandmother had a .22 rifle with octagonal barrel above the door in her kitchen. Beautiful rifle Timothy.
Title: Re: Old Savage Porn....aka Granddad Porn
Post by: blackwolfe on May 30, 2009, 02:32:57 PM: Quote from: Timothy on May 30, 2009, 02:05:01 PM
No, I knew when I move up here in '97..that's why my long guns have been locked up 70 miles south at big Bro's house. He had to get them out of the house because his son has a felony DWI. Sometimes shit happens to good people! Anyway, if ya read the rules and play by them it's not so bad.

I just yank the big lever marked GOP and hope for the best! Teddy should be gone soon, Lord knows who the Governor will replace him with.[/quote

Timothy, you should ask for the apointment. I'm sure you would have no problem collecting funds on this forum to buy the position. Oh!!! wait a minute you're not in Illinoise. You could run for the office. The members of this forum are more qualified than almost all the dirtbags in DC
Title: Re: Old Savage Porn....aka Granddad Porn
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 30, 2009, 02:34:16 PM: "Timothy, you should ask for the apointment. I'm sure you would have no problem collecting funds on this forum to buy the position. Oh!!! wait a minute you're not in Illinoise. You could run for the office. The members of this forum are more qualified than almost all the dirtbags in DC"

That works in Ma as well.
Title: Re: Old Savage Porn....aka Granddad Porn
Post by: Timothy on May 30, 2009, 02:49:25 PM: Political ASSpirations are not my thing...I'm not the "Do as your told" kind of guy, never have been. Besides, the Legislature put the task of replacing Teddy with the Governor. They took it away so Romney couldn't do it when Kerry ran for Pres and gave it back to Patrick when Teddy got sick..

Buying and selling the Commonwealth since 1780...

12 seats in Congress, all with a capital D....
Title: Re: Old Savage Porn....aka Granddad Porn
Post by: MikeBjerum on May 30, 2009, 02:59:44 PM: Can anyone imagine the uproar in the MM if this crowd gained power?
Title: Re: Old Savage Porn....aka Granddad Porn
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 30, 2009, 03:43:17 PM: Quote from: m58 on May 30, 2009, 02:59:44 PM
Can anyone imagine the uproar in the MM if this crowd gained power?

Till we hung a few of them, then the gutless weasels would be meek enough. ;D
Title: Re: Old Savage Porn....aka Granddad Porn
Post by: Pathfinder on May 30, 2009, 07:07:15 PM: Hmm, 1903 eh? hassles with MA laws? Maybe we should fight our next legislative battle in Congress in getting the law changed from pre-1898 guns being "antiques" and not susceptible to the NFA (right law?) and move it up to - oh, say, 1930.
Title: Re: Old Savage Porn....aka Granddad Porn
Post by: MikeBjerum on May 30, 2009, 07:20:37 PM: Quote from: tombogan03884 on May 30, 2009, 03:43:17 PM
Till we hung a few of them, then the gutless weasels would be meek enough. ;D

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Title: Re: Old Savage Porn....aka Granddad Porn
Post by: MikeBjerum on May 30, 2009, 07:25:24 PM: Back on task ...

That is a nice gun. Good stories, memories and uncommon to boot.

Enjoy the biannual massages!

I've been doing some reading and watching old movies, and I've developed an urge to find a few of these old pump .22's. To me the old shooting gallery plinking is a great way to pass an afternoon family picnic. Get the guys together, a few simple rifles, a batch of targets, and a few bricks of .22.
Title: Re: Old Savage Porn....aka Granddad Porn
Post by: Timothy on May 30, 2009, 07:30:42 PM: Quote from: m58 on May 30, 2009, 07:25:24 PM
Back on task ...

That is a nice gun. Good stories, memories and uncommon to boot.

Enjoy the biannual massages!

I've been doing some reading and watching old movies, and I've developed an urge to find a few of these old pump .22's. To me the old shooting gallery plinking is a great way to pass an afternoon family picnic. Get the guys together, a few simple rifles, a batch of targets, and a few bricks of .22.

I don't have a link but this might be the same model that Annie Oakley used in her shooting act. I've need to do a little more research though. For a 106 year old gun design it shoulders beautifully and balances great. All that for the low, low price of 12 bucks...
Title: Re: Old Savage Porn....aka Granddad Porn
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 30, 2009, 11:12:00 PM: Quote from: Timothy on May 30, 2009, 07:30:42 PM
I don't have a link but this might be the same model that Annie Oakley used in her shooting act. I've need to do a little more research though. For a 106 year old gun design it shoulders beautifully and balances great. All that for the low, low price of 12 bucks...

For most people that was a weeks pay or more in 1903
Actual prices, the percentage of income you have to lay out, was fairly steady from the 1860's ( Henry rifle $40 average monthly wage $40) till the election, (AR $ 1 -2000, same as average monthly wage) It was just the numbers that got bigger. Since Nov is the first REAL increase in cost in over 140 years.
YAY BO , you asshat.
Title: Re: Old Savage Porn....aka Granddad Porn
Post by: fightingquaker13 on May 30, 2009, 11:32:14 PM: Quote from: Pathfinder on May 30, 2009, 07:07:15 PM
Hmm, 1903 eh? hassles with MA laws? Maybe we should fight our next legislative battle in Congress in getting the law changed from pre-1898 guns being "antiques" and not susceptible to the NFA (right law?) and move it up to - oh, say, 1930.
Only worth the hassel if we get to include repros. ;D (Do I want a full auto Bren or a Tommy?)
FQ13
Title: Re: Old Savage Porn....aka Granddad Porn
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 30, 2009, 11:42:01 PM: Quote from: Pathfinder on May 30, 2009, 07:07:15 PM
Hmm, 1903 eh? hassles with MA laws? Maybe we should fight our next legislative battle in Congress in getting the law changed from pre-1898 guns being "antiques" and not susceptible to the NFA (right law?) and move it up to - oh, say, 1998

Fixed it for you ;D