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Title: TALK ME DOWN!! SAIGA 308 Yes OR NO?
Post by: fightingquaker13 on June 02, 2009, 01:15:00 AM
I have been sitting on the fence of buying one of THOSE guns (you know, the naughty ones) for a while now. I came across a 22" barrel NIB Saiga .308 with a 25 round surefire mag for $550. I am this close to buying it. Someone please tell me why I shouldn't or why I should prefer the 16" if I should. It's two in morning and I'm like an alchoholic calling his sponsor, because just one little drink won't hurt, will it? Help a brother out. ;D
FQ13
Title: Re: TALK ME DOWN!! SAIGA 308 Yes OR NO?
Post by: blackwolfe on June 02, 2009, 01:17:36 AM
Crack open another long neck and buy it.
Title: Re: TALK ME DOWN!! SAIGA 308 Yes OR NO?
Post by: MAUSERMAN on June 02, 2009, 01:29:22 AM
Heck i like AK'S so much i have 3. ;D
Title: Re: TALK ME DOWN!! SAIGA 308 Yes OR NO?
Post by: fightingquaker13 on June 02, 2009, 01:31:39 AM
Heck i like AK'S so much i have 3. ;D
Is that a Saiga on the bottom? If so please give me a little feedback.
FQ13
Title: Re: TALK ME DOWN!! SAIGA 308 Yes OR NO?
Post by: philw on June 02, 2009, 03:07:03 AM
Crack open another long neck and buy it.

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yep  I agree   get it,     

Title: Re: TALK ME DOWN!! SAIGA 308 Yes OR NO?
Post by: fightingquaker13 on June 02, 2009, 05:48:26 AM
Just to complicate things. I found an offer to sell me a Mossberg 590 with 8 round tube and ghost rings for $475. I want this for a FUBAR gun. Which, if either, should I buy? I've got a perfectly good deer rifle and a couple of nice hunting SxS shotguns. Thats not the issue. I'm looking for this purely for SD. PC has long since left the building on this one. As far as home defense, I'll probably go with my Glock. I would just like a "just in case" gun as a back up. Any thoughts? (And yes I can "afford" only one). :'(
FQ13
Title: Re: TALK ME DOWN!! SAIGA 308 Yes OR NO?
Post by: 2HOW on June 02, 2009, 11:58:07 AM
YES, you cant beat it for the money. The whole Saiga line is good. Its top on my buy list.
Title: Re: TALK ME DOWN!! SAIGA 308 Yes OR NO?
Post by: Ping on June 02, 2009, 12:00:38 PM
I would definitely buy it FQ13.  ;) We can discuss the relapse in rehab, lol.  ;D
Title: Re: TALK ME DOWN!! SAIGA 308 Yes OR NO?
Post by: fightingquaker13 on June 02, 2009, 07:38:14 PM
Alas, no Saiga for me. I went to a gunsmith in my area today to talk about a problem I had with my Parker 20. He's an old guy and mostly retired and it was less a question of getting the barrels rebrowned than just an excuse to sit and visit. I mentioned my dilemna about choosing between the .308 and the 12 gauge for at best hurricane back up, and at worst killing zombies. He looked at me, mentioned that firing a .308 in a subdivision was a bad idea under any circumstances, and then things got weird. There was a cloud of purple smoke and all I could see was a giant pair of snaggle toed bare feet. He spoke in the voice of HAZ THE ENABLER and said "Son, I do have a  new in the box Maverick 88 security model, 8 round, picantinny rail drilled and tapped, 20" that a client didn't pick up. Its yours for $200". What could I say, I'm so easy its a good thing I wasn't born a girl. Somehow Haz, this all your fault! ;D Thanks for the help but I am temporarily benched from the saiga 308, but they seem to be a decent rifle for a good price. If anyone has opinions out there I would love to hear them, as I am not done yet. There is that three gun combo thing after all. ;)
FQ13
Title: Re: TALK ME DOWN!! SAIGA 308 Yes OR NO?
Post by: Rob Pincus on June 02, 2009, 07:42:37 PM
I missed my chance to swing your vote, but I will chime in anyway:  ;D

The shotgun is a better first choice as a defensive gun. The situation has to be REALLY bad for a 22" .308 to be the gun of choice!

That said, it is probably not a horrible idea to pick up the Saiga as part of that "3 gun combo" if you have the cash and it is still available!

-RJP
Title: Re: TALK ME DOWN!! SAIGA 308 Yes OR NO?
Post by: Hazcat on June 02, 2009, 07:43:26 PM
PICTURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: TALK ME DOWN!! SAIGA 308 Yes OR NO?
Post by: fightingquaker13 on June 02, 2009, 08:18:33 PM
I missed my chance to swing your vote, but I will chime in anyway:  ;D

The shotgun is a better first choice as a defensive gun. The situation has to be REALLY bad for a 22" .308 to be the gun of choice!

That said, it is probably not a horrible idea to pick up the Saiga as part of that "3 gun combo" if you have the cash and it is still available!

-RJP
Thanks for the input Rob. I am curious about your opinion of the Saiga. As I said, I'm not looking for a hunting or sniper rifle here. I just want something moderately priced, with decent knockdown power,  that will shoot minute of bad guy out to about 250 yards and will reliabley go bang when I pull the trigger. Any ideas between the 16" and 22" barrels, or should I look at something else? As I say I've got a tack driving .270 so thats not an issue and I don't want to spend a lot of cash for a "just in case" gun thats also a fun range toy. I'm looking for the most bang for the buck, the going bang every time being the main concern.Thanks
FQ13
Title: Re: TALK ME DOWN!! SAIGA 308 Yes OR NO?
Post by: fightingquaker13 on June 02, 2009, 08:23:05 PM
PICTURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Speak of the Devil.... ;D Seriously, I owe you thanks, I never would have looked at a Maverick if not for your earlier post on a different thread. Its just like a mossberg, except for the safety, which is a down side, but not a $250 down side. Ditto the aluminium receiver, I'm not planning on going hiking in the Hindu Kush anytime soon. As far as pics, I loaned my camera to my old man for his vaction so expect a bit of a delay.
Thanks Haz (bastard) ;D
FQ13
Title: Re: TALK ME DOWN!! SAIGA 308 Yes OR NO?
Post by: Rob Pincus on June 02, 2009, 08:23:50 PM
I own a .410 and I know several gys who have the 12 gauges. I've only shot one of the .308s.  They seem to be very reliable guns, good weight and decent ergonomics. If you're not looking for a tack driver, the Saiga is a good choice, especially for the money, when it comes to semi-308. I'd recommend the 16", but I'm partial to shorter barrels in almost every application. Even my 2 Loooooong range .308's have 20" barrels.

-RJP
Title: Re: TALK ME DOWN!! SAIGA 308 Yes OR NO?
Post by: MAUSERMAN on June 02, 2009, 11:54:53 PM
Yes the bottom rifle is a Saiga .308 that really brings home the bacon. That old battle axe has seen a few hunts in her day. As for ammo 7.62x51 nato surplus works get.