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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: Hazcat on June 03, 2009, 10:43:07 AM
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CARACAS (Reuters) - Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez said on Tuesday that he and Cuban ally Fidel Castro risk being more conservative than U.S. President Barack Obama as Washington prepares to take control of General Motors Corp.
During one of Chavez's customary lectures on the "curse" of capitalism and the bonanzas of socialism, the Venezuelan leader made reference to GM's bankruptcy filing, which is expected to give the U.S. government a 60 percent stake in the 100-year-old former symbol of American might.
"Hey, Obama has just nationalized nothing more and nothing less than General Motors. Comrade Obama! Fidel, careful or we are going to end up to his right," Chavez joked on a live television broadcast.
During a decade in government, Chavez has nationalized most of Venezuela's key economic sectors, including multibillion dollar oil projects, often via joint ventures with the private sector that give the state a 60 percent controlling stake.
Obama has vowed to quickly sell off General Motors once the auto giant is back on its feet, but the government will initially control the company after a $30 billion injection of taxpayer funds.
Chavez, a vehement critic of the U.S. "empire," has toned down his rhetoric since Obama took office in January and the two men shook hands during a summit in Trinidad and Tobago in April.
http://www.reuters.com/article/ObamaEconomy/idUSTRE5520GX20090603?feedType=RSS&feedName=ObamaEconomy&virtualBrandChannel=10441
Hey, even a broken clock is right twice a day! ;)
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I don't believe for a moment that Obama wants to give up control of GM. I believe he wants to take control of even more of the private sector.
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I don't believe for a moment that Obama wants to give up control of GM. I believe he wants to take control of even more ALL of the private sector.
I fixed it for you. ;D
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This is worse than admitting I agree with TAB, I find myself agreeing with Hugo Chavez ???
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Obama - Chavez - Castro Bros -- talk about peas in a pod!!!! What about Putin, Kim Jong & Jintao???? No press for them??
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Obama - Chavez - Castro Bros -- talk about peas in a pod!!!! What about Putin, Kim Jong & Jintao???? No press for them??
Putin has more class than to hang out with these 3rd world egomaniacs, You didn't get to be a Col. in the KGB with out being able to take some crap with a smile and a salute. I don't know about Chavez or Jintao, but Kim Jong Il, B O, and the Castro's all grew up on easy street.
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As if we didn't see this coming from a mile away.....
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Putin has more class than to hang out with these 3rd world egomaniacs, You didn't get to be a Col. in the KGB with out being able to take some crap with a smile and a salute. I don't know about Chavez or Jintao, but Kim Jong Il, B O, and the Castro's all grew up on easy street.
Jintao was an apparachik. Chavez, though was a bit of a bas ass back in the day. A paratrooper and apprently a damn good and very hard core officer. Not someone to like, but something to keep in mind. The problem is, he's never grown up and still thinks he's leading a platoon somewhere rather than being a statesman. He has drunk all of the Fidel drama queen kool-aid.
FQ13
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Jintao was an apparachik. Chavez, though was a bit of a bas ass back in the day. A paratrooper and apprently a damn good and very hard core officer. Not someone to like, but something to keep in mind. The problem is, he's never grown up and still thinks he's leading a platoon somewhere rather than being a statesman. He has drunk all of the Fidel drama queen kool-aid.
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Kind of like that Austrian Corporal a few decades ago ? Fidel was a "rich boy punk"
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Kind of like that Austrian Corporal a few decades ago ? Fidel was a "rich boy punk"
I was thinking more along the lines of a bank robber from Georgia (the country) but yeah, pretty much.
FQ13
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I was thinking more along the lines of a bank robber from Georgia (the country) but yeah, pretty much.
FQ13
Iron Cross rates far higher than being a snitch for the Czarist Secret Police.
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Hell there was even a story in Pravda, saying we are marching to Marxism faster than mother Russia.
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/107459-0/
American capitalism gone with a whimper
Front page / Opinion / Columnists
27.04.2009
It must be said, that like the breaking of a great dam, the American decent into Marxism is happening with breath taking speed, against the back drop of a passive, hapless sheeple, excuse me dear reader, I meant people.
True, the situation has been well prepared on and off for the past century, especially the past twenty years. The initial testing grounds was conducted upon our Holy Russia and a bloody test it was. But we Russians would not just roll over and give up our freedoms and our souls, no matter how much money Wall Street poured into the fists of the Marxists.
Those lessons were taken and used to properly prepare the American populace for the surrender of their freedoms and souls, to the whims of their elites and betters.
First, the population was dumbed down through a politicized and substandard education system based on pop culture, rather then the classics. Americans know more about their favorite TV dramas then the drama in DC that directly affects their lives. They care more for their "right" to choke down a McDonalds burger or a BurgerKing burger than for their constitutional rights. Then they turn around and lecture us about our rights and about our "democracy". Pride blind the foolish.
Then their faith in God was destroyed, until their churches, all tens of thousands of different "branches and denominations" were for the most part little more then Sunday circuses and their televangelists and top protestant mega preachers were more then happy to sell out their souls and flocks to be on the "winning" side of one pseudo Marxist politician or another. Their flocks may complain, but when explained that they would be on the "winning" side, their flocks were ever so quick to reject Christ in hopes for earthly power. Even our Holy Orthodox churches are scandalously liberalized in America.
The final collapse has come with the election of Barack Obama. His speed in the past three months has been truly impressive. His spending and money printing has been a record setting, not just in America's short history but in the world. If this keeps up for more then another year, and there is no sign that it will not, America at best will resemble the Wiemar Republic and at worst Zimbabwe.
These past two weeks have been the most breath taking of all. First came the announcement of a planned redesign of the American Byzantine tax system, by the very thieves who used it to bankroll their thefts, loses and swindles of hundreds of billions of dollars. These make our Russian oligarchs look little more then ordinary street thugs, in comparison. Yes, the Americans have beat our own thieves in the shear volumes. Should we congratulate them?
This may also be propagandist crap, but it smacks of a little truth also....
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Chavez tried swaying the elections in peru, but did not succeed. also controls Bolivia, and somewhat controls Nicaragua. (sandinistas are in power now) anything he says they do. oh yeah, Honduras is leaning that way too.
he acts like a spoiled bully. if he doesn't get his way he retaliates in the way he thinks will hurt the most, taking control of the oil fields, banks, media etc... kind of like bo.
most of South America hopes for one of his own people to get tired of the syphilis crazed retard and shoot him. (ok, I made up the syphilis part, but it fits) ;D
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good buddies!!!
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SAN SALVADOR, El Salvador – El Salvador is investigating claims by Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez that an assassination plot prevented him from visiting the Central American nation.
Interior Minister Humberto Centeno gave no details about the investigation but said that he personally does not find it "strange" that Venezuelan intelligence detected a possible plot.
Chavez canceled going to the inauguration of leftist President Mauricio Funes on Monday because he said Venezuelan intelligence services had "very precise information" that a former CIA operative and Cuban militant, Luis Posada Carriles, was conspiring with U.S. intelligence agencies to launch rockets at his plane.
The U.S. denies conspiring against Chavez.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090603/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_salvador_venezuela_plot
though it would make my day I doubt we would try it. it would make him a martyr. not what we want
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Luis Posada Carriles is something like 60 years old or more, I doubt he is still playing those kinds of games.
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Luis Posada Carriles is something like 60 years old or more, I doubt he is still playing those kinds of games.
both Chavez and what's his name from N. Korea are about as nutty as they get. if they were on the right the media would have a field day. but as they approve of 'comrade' Obama, they don't criticize them or call them what they really are. screw balls..