Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: philw on June 08, 2009, 09:52:35 AM
Title: University offers protest degrees
Post by: philw on June 08, 2009, 09:52:35 AM
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ANTI-military activists have been offered training on how to disrupt Australia's top-level wargames with the US military in an official course run by Sydney University.
The University's Centre for Peace and Conflict Studies offered students a six-week "Peace and Activism Training Course" culminating in a trip to Queensland next month to disrupt Exercise Talisman Sabre.
The $500 course fee even included travel expenses for the six-day trip to Rockhampton to take part in the "Peace Convergence" for the first week of the three-week exercise.
An online discussion group by organisers investigated by The Daily Telegraph reveals the group plans to blockade Rockhampton airport on Sunday, July 12 and other direct action.
It also anticipates possible arrests.
In previous years protesters have tried to blockade the Shoalwater Bay military training base and several have been arrested.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRAaMjKetJA
WARNING: Video contains course language
The course's instructors included Dr Hannah Middleton, who is also a protest organiser.
However, after being contacted by The Daily Telegraph, Dr Middleton said late yesterday that the course had been cancelled.
She also said students in the course would not have been asked to take part in actions that could get them arrested.
"They are studying non-violent responses to conflict," she said.
The group is also preparing an "activist's handbook" for those taking part. However, it has not yet been distributed.
The 2007 handbook has been pulled from the organisers' website.
An existing manual circulated among members promotes the use of techniques such as tunnelling, occupying buildings and throwing pies
there are soooo many left winged tossers in uni's now
and they want to teach them this rubbish now
Title: Re: University offers protest degrees
Post by: 1911 Junkie on June 08, 2009, 09:55:46 AM
I say let them protest.
It's nothing an errant mortar round or grenade wouldn't fix. ;D
Title: Re: University offers protest degrees
Post by: philw on June 08, 2009, 10:00:22 AM
And FQ can't understand why most of think the denizens of "Academia" are a bunch of assholes. ???
Actually Tom, I was about to write a post about how this was an unethical abuse of a professor's position and a violation of professional standards. Telling a student your POV is fine IF you are willing to allow debate. Forcing it on someone is not close to fine. Offering CREDIT for following it is so far from normal standards that you can't even see them in the rearview mirror (and this is from someone who taught at a Quaker college). The only redeeming feature (if there is one) of this course is that protest tactics are protest tactics. They are like a gun. They'll work for the right as well as the left. FQ13 PS On that note I will recomend a book. Its called Rules For Radicals by Saul Alynski (sp?) He was a left wing activist in the '60s and'70's, also an arrogant SOB. However the book is basically a feild manual for community organizing and tactics. Again, just like a gun, it will work for however picks it up. It should do fine for us 2A folks.
Title: Re: University offers protest degrees
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 08, 2009, 12:48:22 PM
What you say about ethics may be true, unfortunately I can not think of a single college where they are applied , see the thread about schools trying to suppress the concealed carry groups.
A book I prefer is "The Poor mans James Bond" by Kurt Saxon, who, strangely enough, also was a militant leftist.
Title: Re: University offers protest degrees
Post by: CJS3 on June 08, 2009, 03:28:05 PM
Actually Tom, I was about to write a post about how this was an unethical abuse of a professor's position and a violation of professional standards.
Universities no longer have professional standards. If the average college or university professor didn't have tenure to protect them, they'd be living under a bridge.
The old saying about" Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach." is even more pertinate today, than when it was first coined.
Title: Re: University offers protest degrees
Post by: fightingquaker13 on June 08, 2009, 03:29:31 PM
Universities no longer have professional standards. If the average college or university professor didn't have tenure to protect them, they'd be living under a bridge.
The old saying about" Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach." is even more pertinate today, than when it was first coined.
Yeah? Who taught those who can do? Just askin'? ;D FQ13
Title: Re: University offers protest degrees
Post by: TAB on June 08, 2009, 03:31:32 PM
thats really not that shocking
MIT offered a class on rubics cubes when they 1st came out.
Title: Re: University offers protest degrees
Post by: Texas_Bryan on June 08, 2009, 03:39:41 PM
MIT offered a class on rubics cubes when they 1st came out.
Actually had an aquaitence who took that one. I gave him hell about it. Then he explained stuff that involved fractal geometry, probability, quantum mechanics, spatial applications of matrix algebra etc. I pretty much shut the hell up. FQ13 who can balance his checkbook on a good day
Title: Re: University offers protest degrees
Post by: TAB on June 08, 2009, 03:49:24 PM
Actually had an aquaitence who took that one. I gave him hell about it. Then he explained stuff that involved fractal geometry, probability, quantum mechanics, spatial applications of matrix algebra etc. I pretty much shut the hell up. FQ13 who can balance his checkbook on a good day
actually there is only 1 solution to the rubics cube, it does not matter how it starts out, it is based on very heavly on math. which is why if you know the pattern, you can do it blindfolded.
There is actually tons of great math that can be done around the rubics cube. ( I have my masters in math)
Title: Re: University offers protest degrees
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 08, 2009, 03:53:24 PM
Yeah? Who taught those who can do? Just askin'? ;D FQ13
Experience, that's why schools were teaching that the earth was flat when any one who lived near the ocean could SEE they were full of it.
Title: Re: University offers protest degrees
Post by: Shiv on June 08, 2009, 06:57:28 PM
What I found most interesting about te article was that the protestors had actually figured out a way not only to get people interested and ACTIVE in their cause, but somehow convinced them that they should PAY for the opportunity! Absofreakinloutely amazing!
Title: Re: University offers protest degrees
Post by: fightingquaker13 on June 08, 2009, 07:00:28 PM
What I found most interesting about te article was that the protestors had actually figured out a way not only to get people interested and ACTIVE in their cause, but somehow convinced them that they should PAY for the opportunity! Absofreakinloutely amazing!
I said that the guy was unethical, not stupid. :P FQ13
Title: Re: University offers protest degrees
Post by: Timothy on June 08, 2009, 07:25:53 PM
actually there is only 1 solution to the rubics cube, it does not matter how it starts out, it is based on very heavly on math. which is why if you know the pattern, you can do it blindfolded.
There is actually tons of great math that can be done around the rubics cube. ( I have my masters in math)
And I thought it was in English Composition! ;D ;D ;D
NOT!!!!!!!
Title: Re: University offers protest degrees
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 08, 2009, 10:16:31 PM
And I thought it was in English Composition! ;D ;D ;D
NOT!!!!!!!
I don't know, I composed some things in English before I discovered you could rip it apart and reassemble it. Unprintable English, but English non the less.. ;D
Title: Re: University offers protest degrees
Post by: philw on June 09, 2009, 02:11:19 AM
Lesson 1. How to handle dog shit without getting it on you Lesson 2. Coping with handcuffs Lesson 3. Maintaining your composure in Jail
Title: Re: University offers protest degrees
Post by: fightingquaker13 on June 09, 2009, 02:34:16 AM
Lesson 1. How to handle dog shit without getting it on you Lesson 2. Coping with handcuffs Lesson 3. Maintaining your composure in Jail
You forgot proper shower etiqutte, including the use of condoms and KY gell. This guy pisses me off. What he is doing is wrong on so many levels I can't begin to count them. Not only is he endangering his students to feed his own ego (which should get him fired right there), but he also makes the rest of us look bad, as though we are complicit with this a#$%hole (another firing offense). The bottom line is that are professional standards. That was made clear to me from day one, and right after don't sleep with your students was don't use your students for personal gain. I don't care if its getting the football player to help you move, the cheerleader to help you have a warm bed or the idealists to martyr themselves for your cause. Its just flat wrong and an abuse of power over immpressionable kids who want to please an auhority figure. This SOB should be out of a job, politics be damned, left or right it doesn't matter. This is just somebody who knowingly (or they should know) abusing a position of trust. Screw'em , they violated the code and they are a stranger to me. FQ13
Title: Re: University offers protest degrees
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 09, 2009, 11:54:41 AM
You missed the one about not filling your students heads with dis proven socialist bullshit.
Title: Re: University offers protest degrees
Post by: PegLeg45 on June 09, 2009, 12:17:22 PM
Universities no longer have professional standards. If the average college or university professor didn't have tenure to protect them, they'd be living under a bridge.
The old saying about" Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach." is even more pertinate today, than when it was first coined.
Just uttered that same saying in a conversation with a guy yesterday.....and yes, I agree.
Title: Re: University offers protest degrees
Post by: Timothy on June 09, 2009, 12:32:19 PM
Colleges and Universities are in the BUSINESS of education with special emphasis on the business end! They exist to make a buck these days and some students graduate completely unprepared for what life has in store for them.
Title: Re: University offers protest degrees
Post by: Kid Shelleen on June 09, 2009, 12:49:25 PM
What I found most interesting about te article was that the protestors had actually figured out a way not only to get people interested and ACTIVE in their cause, but somehow convinced them that they should PAY for the opportunity! Absofreakinloutely amazing!