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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: twyacht on June 08, 2009, 05:29:49 PM
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Seems terror groups have rather harsh "reviews" for recruits. As long as they are killing each other? Keep up the good work..
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525339,00.html
Group Linked to Al Qaeda May Have Killed Minnesota Man Recruited in Somalia
A Minnesota man recruited to join an Al Qaeda-linked terrorist group overseas may have been assassinated in Somalia by the very terrorist group he went there to help.
The Federal Bureau of Investigation has been investigating for several months at least 20 Somali-American men from the Minneapolis area who recently traveled to Somalia to train with the terrorist group al-Shabaab.
One of those men — 17-year-old Burhan Hassan — was killed in Mogadishu on Friday, his uncle, Osman Ahmed, told FOX News.
Ahmed said Hassan was killed by members of al-Shabaab. A leader in the Minneapolis Somali community said later that al-Shabaab members originally from the Minneapolis area were likely responsible for Hassan's death.
"Al-Shabaab assassinated Burhan and shot (him in) the head," Ahmed said. In fact, Hassan was shot "point blank," according to Omar Jamal, the executive director of the Somali Justice Advocacy Center in St. Paul, Minn.
Ahmed accuses a local mosque of helping al-Shabaab recruit his nephew and others in the Minneapolis area.
"Like his peers, Burhan Hassan was never interested in Somali politics, or understood Somali clan issues," Ahmed said during testimony. "These kids have no perception of Somalia except the one that was formed in their mind by their teachers at (a local mosque). We believe that these children did not travel to Somalia by themselves. There must be others who made them understand that going to Somalia and participating the fighting is the right thing to do."
Hassan is the second known American to die alongside al-Shabaab, which has been warring with the moderate Somali government since 2006.
In October 2008, 27-year-old college student Shirwa Ahmed of Minneapolis became "the first known American suicide bomber" when he blew himself up in Somalia, killing dozens, according to the FBI.
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I mean c'mon going to priceline.com, getting a long flight to Somalia, for this? What a waste....
Since it's Minneapolis, I'm sure Stewert Smalley (Al Franken) will fix it.
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Stewart Smalley believes that terrorists are just "Misunderstood".....they just need a big hug! ::)
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C'mon guys, Stewart is Good Enough, Smart Enough...and dog gone it....people like him. ;D
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Seems terror groups have rather harsh "reviews" for recruits. As long as they are killing each other? Keep up the good work..
that's it ;D ;D
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Stewart Smalley believes that terrorists are just "Misunderstood".....they just need a big hug! ::)
And I have just the thing to hug them!
(http://torture.justsickshit.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/virgin-torture-device.jpg)
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And I have just the thing to hug them!
(http://torture.justsickshit.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/virgin-torture-device.jpg)
One maiden down, 71 to go . . . .
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One maiden down, 71 to go . . . .
Actually I think its seventy six, and doggone it, they're good enough, and smart enough and people like them. ;D
FQ13
AS far as Mn. politics goes, God help them. They're represented by a self serving moron either way, but at least its not Jesse "the mind" Ventura. ::)
FQ13
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Actually I think its seventy six, and doggone it, they're good enough, and smart enough and people like them. ;D
FQ13
It's seventy six trombones but only seventy (70) virgins fellas!
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It's seventy six trombones but only seventy (70) virgins fellas!
DOH! Does that mean I can get a refund on this vest? Only worn once.... ;D
FQ13
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DOH! Does that mean I can get a refund onthis vest? Only worn once.... ;D
FQ13
There should be release handle somewhere, just pull it! It'll come right off....... :o
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""Al-Shabaab assassinated Burhan and shot (him in) the head," Ahmed said. In fact, Hassan was shot "point blank," according to Omar Jamal, the executive director of the Somali Justice Advocacy Center in St. Paul, Minn."\
2 Queustions, 1) Before or after they assassinated him ? 2) How does he know ?
and a connected post
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090609/ap_on_re_us/us_mosque_surveillance
LOS ANGELES – FBI Director Robert Mueller on Monday defended the agency's use of informants within U.S. mosques, despite complaints from Muslim organizations that worshippers and clerics are being targeted instead of possible terrorists.
Mueller's comments came just days after a Michigan Muslim organization asked the Justice Department to investigate complaints that the FBI is asking the faithful to spy on Islamic leaders and worshippers. Similar alarm followed the disclosure earlier this year that the FBI planted a spy in Southern California mosques.
"We don't investigate places, we investigate individuals," Mueller said during a brief meeting with reporters in Los Angeles.
"To the extent that there may be evidence or other information of criminal wrongdoings, then we will ... undertake those investigations," Mueller added. "We will continue to do it."
He called relations with U.S. Muslims "very good," but acknowledged disagreements without providing specifics.
The Council of Islamic Organizations of Michigan sent a letter to U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder after mosques and other groups reported members of the community have been asked to monitor people coming to mosques and donations they make. The FBI's Detroit office has denied the allegations.
In the California case, information about the informant who spied on the Islamic Center of Irvine came out at a February detention hearing for a brother-in-law of Osama bin Laden's bodyguard, an Afghan native and naturalized U.S. citizen named Ahmadullah Niazi who is accused of lying on his citizenship and passport applications about terrorism ties.
Local Muslim leaders say they suspected since at least since 2006 that the FBI was trying to infiltrate Muslim organizations in the area.
"History disputes Mr. Mueller's statements, at least in Southern California," said Shakeel Syed, executive of the Islamic Shura Council of Southern California.
"It doesn't alleviate anything. It only continues to show the sheer arrogance demonstrated by the bureau in holding Muslim community members, clerics, mosques, as suspects," Syed said. He is among community leaders in court seeking government records of surveillance.
FBI agents and prosecutors say spying on mosques is one of the best weapons to uncover lurking terrorists or threats to national security, but it has posed a politically and legally thorny issue with Muslims who see themselves as unjustly monitored.
"The FBI needs to do what it needs to do, certainly," Syed said. But the agency is "trying to incite and entrap" law-abiding people.
Mueller also said that there will be no change in the FBI's priorities in the new administration.
"I would not expect that we would in any way take our foot off the pedal of addressing counterterrorism," he said.
"My expectation is that we'll see an uptick in terms of resources devoted toward our domestic criminal responsibilities, but we will not ... relax our responsibilities when it come to counterterrorism or counterintelligence," he added.
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It doesn't alleviate anything. It only continues to show the sheer arrogance demonstrated by the bureau in holding Muslim community members, clerics, mosques, as suspects," Syed said. He is among community leaders in court seeking government records of surveillance. FRO TOM'S POST
Gee, I wonder why? Is it because of all those atheists, Christians or Hindus blowing people up? If the Muslim community wants to avoid being targeted they will out bastards like those who brainwashed American teenagers to fight Jihad in Somalia. If they do; good, and I'll count them as my countrymen. If they don't, I'll not apologize for looking at them with a degree of suspicion.
FQ13