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Member Section => Tactical Rifle & Carbine => Topic started by: Bidah on October 03, 2007, 12:55:28 PM
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This is more directed at Erik as he had said in one of the videos to ask him about them offline.
So, I am asking.
Right now I use a standard sling. I have looked at the 3 point ones, single point ones, bungee ones, Israeli ones, etc... Makes a holster choice seem simple.. :)
-Bidah
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I'm interested in this question too, what is the best sling to use in 3 gun? The slings I've seen on Shooting Gallery look like they may be one point slings. What are the advantages/disadvantages of each?
Secesh
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I agree. We need to hear from the experts on AR15 slings pros and cons. I am using an M1907 sling. But is there something better?
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Guys, sorry for the delay. I was shooting the 3-Gun Nationals at USSA and didn't have access to a computer.
Sling choice really depends on what you want the sling to do.
I'll start with Secesh
what is the best sling to use in 3 gun?
I prefer the old style 2 point sling attached at the front and rear sling swivel (or the 1907 variety.) These type slings are used to carry a rifle and to increase the stability of your shooting platform. Probably the best methods of it's use is still found in the Marine Corps instruction manual. I would highly recommend obtaining a copy of the manual if you are considering using this type of sling. I find it quite useful in 3-Gun competitions.
For CQB applications, I generally prefer a 3 point sling vs. single point slings. 3 points will give better control in extreme CQB applications, but they are more cumbersome and can block access to certain AR15 controls. The single point does not hinder access to certain controls, but also has less support and retention capabilities.
Lately I've been working with the Viking Tactic's 2 point sling and it's growing on me. It may become my new perference in slings, but I need to do some more work with it before I switch over to it on a regular basis.
Erik
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Thank you Erik for that reply. I wasn't worried, I figured you were either busy with a class, or who knows what. :)
From what I am gathering from your post, I basically need at least 2 slings (for my needs anyway). I can have one for hooting around in the woods, or around the ranch here, which would be the standard 2 point sling. That is what I have, good. For the other one I would probably go with a 3 point as I like to use a sling when I can. Probably only use it in 3 gun, but ok, I can live with that.
Ok, so what do you like about this new sling.. quit with the teaser.. :)
-Bidah
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:)Thanks Erik.
I appreciate your insight on the sling question. I'll stick with the old one I have had for at least 40 years.
;) Bill
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Ok, so what do you like about this new sling
The new sling goes over the shoulder and is attached to mounting points on the top of the rifle and not the bottom. It has a quick release/adjustment sytem that allow the user to cinch it up fast to increase your stability for precision fire, but can also be loosened up fast for CQB/ close quarter operations and being a 2 point design, it does not interfere with the left side weapon controls.
Go to VikingTactics.com to check out the features. I've been very impressed with the design.
Erik
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Cool Erik, thanks. Now that looks like a design that I might like as well.. hmm.. I guess it is either wait till you have wrung it out, or get one myself and try it out..
-Bidah
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I'll make you deal.
Don't wait. Order one from Brownell's. If you don't like it, I'll buy it off you.
Erik
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Reading some of Jim Higginbothems posts on another forum he mentions a sling that has a quick disconnect in case you need to lose it quick as in CQC (he is training our troops b4 deployment) I think its a 2 point system, Gov. issue , have any info on this?
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Erik,
One thing that I wish that Viking had more of were some good pictures. I read the instructions, but I am not quite sure how you would do a transition to your weak side if needed. It seems that you would have to slip your weak arm out, leaving it around your neck only to get into that position. Is that correct?
To me it looks like they took the Israeli sling, and with some changes came up with a better idea.. neat.
-Bidah
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Bidah,
I really can't say. My problem is that I don't go bilateral. I'm not a shoulder switcher. I stay strong shoulder throughout, so I've never really evaluated the slings for use with bilateral techniques. I would think you could just loosen the whole unit and give yourself plenty of slack and switch shoulders without much trouble, but I don't know for certain.
I do know a guy who uses this sling and goes bilateral. Let me check with him and I'll get back to you.
Erik
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I''ve got a sling from Blackhawk (can't remember the model) that has a quick release buckle for transitioning to weak-side shoulder. Admittedly, I haven't compared it to much, and I don't shoot 3-gun, but I love this sling. YMMV.