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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: ericire12 on June 12, 2009, 05:40:24 PM
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FBI justifiable homicide data indicates that police officers may be safer in states where law-abiding citizens are empowered to carry concealed handguns in public.
In RTC states, a firearm was used in 81.6% of all civilian JH, 25.0% more than the 65.3% in non-RTC states. Considering that criminals were 30.9% more “successful” in completing violent crime––and 38.6% more “successful” in completing murder attempts––in non-RTC states, a firearm is an effective self-defense tool. An armed citizen is less likely to become a violent crime statistic.
In Right-to-Carry states, private citizens have greater freedom to defend themselves in public. Because the ratio of justifiable homicides by police and citizens is more balanced, and because the level of police defensive justifiable homicide is lower, one can only conclude that armed citizens are adept at self-defense, enough to provide a quantifiable level of protection for law enforcement. In non-RTC states, the reduced self-defensive capability of the citizenry correlates with higher rates of violent crime and a more dangerous work environment for police officers.
http://www.examiner.com/x-2879-Austin-Gun-Rights-Examiner~y2009m6d11-Does-Concealed-Carry-Support-Law-Enforcement
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I'm sure TAB will argue with these conclusions.
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I'm sure TAB will argue with these conclusions.
"Why Wyatt, whateva do you mean?"......
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it's at least the second year in a row that the stats have shown that.
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it's at least the second year in a row that the stats have shown that.
yes two years in a row, that proves it... ::)
The key words are "may be" it didn't say were.
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I'm sure TAB will argue with these conclusions.
Was a pretty safe bet.
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I never said I agreed or disagreed...
so he actually lost the bet.
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I never said I agreed or disagreed...
so he actually lost the bet.
yes two years in a row, that proves it... ::)
The key words are "may be" it didn't say were.
Definitely seems to indicate doubt to me. ::)
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assumptions are the mother of all fook ups.
I have no idea how they gathered thier data, and how they compared it. so I can't say one way or another.
perfect example, did they base it on number of LEOs per capita or did they base it on XXX ammount of hours a leo worked per capita?
Did they inculding basic assult( which under ca, is just a touch with out permission), or only battery and agrovated assult?
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the only thing the stats community agrees on when it comes to gun stats is...
guns play no roll in crime stats.
Gee that was hard to find.......... and yes there are countless more....... not really too far of a leap to make that sort of "assumption"
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kind of hard to argue with some ones concultions when they say "may be"
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Just another report that demonstrates the benefits to states with RTC laws. The statistics on violent crime reduction in RTC states are well documented, speak volumes and can't be denied. Despite the facts, we get rediculous shows from the lamestream media like Dianne Sawyers wonderful "If I Only Had a Gun." Such drivel, and from a Kentucky girl.
Liberals can't be swayed by the mere facts. They would rather base everything on touchy/feely emotions and knee jerk reactions. It's much easier than letting the truth get in the way.
Where do you think we get Left wing and Right wing? Liberals are Left without reason and logic and Conservatives are just Right.
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Actually it is Biblical
Ecclesiastes 10:2
A wise man's heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish man's heart directs him toward the left.
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Actually it is Biblical
Ecclesiastes 10:2
A wise man's heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish man's heart directs him toward the left.
Awesome!
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Awesome!
Unless of course you're living in Nazi Germany, or Iran, in which case, less awesome. ;)
Back to the thread though, this is a key finding for us as its from a "neutral" source, no partisan funded think tank study or the like. Its The FBI. It certainley is custom made for a letter to the editor or a note to rep.
FQ13
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Unless of course you're living in Nazi Germany, or Iran, in which case, less awesome. ;)
Back to the thread though, this is a key finding for us as its from a "neutral" source, no partisan funded think tank study or the like. Its The FBI. It certainley is custom made for a letter to the editor or a note to rep.
FQ13
the FBI is anything but neutral.
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the FBI is anything but neutral.
hence the quatation marks
FQ13
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Unless of course you're living in Nazi Germany, or Iran, in which case, less awesome. ;)
Back to the thread though, this is a key finding for us as its from a "neutral" source, no partisan funded think tank study or the like. Its The FBI. It certainley is custom made for a letter to the editor or a note to rep.
FQ13
While its popular to say that Nazis are "right wing" here's something to ponder: "Among the key elements of Nazism were anti-parliamentarism, Pan-Germanism, racism, collectivism, eugenics, antisemitism, anti-communism, totalitarianism and opposition to economic liberalism and political liberalism". (Stolen from Wiki) If we were to apply these concepts to today's political spectrum which ideology would it be closest to?
Iran is a different. It is a Theocracy as has been illustrated in the recent "elections". That would be another form of totalitarianism.
As far as the political spectrum, I prefer the scale of no government to most government to describe political ideals (I wish I could find the John Birch Society's youtube video to re-post here). The whole right and left nomenclature is muddled at best. Now back to your previously scheduled thread.
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What part of National Socialist German Workers Party do you not understand ?