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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: Ichiban on June 13, 2009, 11:54:29 AM
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I think I would almost prefer a two-legged animal. although this one probably didn't shoot back.
Bear shot inside west-side home
A bear was shot dead Friday night after pushing its way into a west-side home.
About 8 p.m., the 100-pound animal was seen outside the house in the 600 block of Columbia Court, a wooded area on the west end of Old Colorado City. The bear then pushed his way into the house through a heavy door, Colorado Springs Police Sgt. Tim Hogan said.
One of the home's occupants alerted the other, who was in a bedroom. When the man came out of the bedroom, the bear was in the living room and growled at the man. The man shot at the bear four times with a Colt .45 as it made its way to a staircase, Hogan said.
The homeowner felt bad and did not want to comment, Hogan said.
"A bear in a house is a dangerous situation," said Matt Yamashita, district wildlife manager for the Colorado Department of Wildlife. "They usually can't find their way out the same way they got in."
The bear's hide will be used for education after the carcass is examined to verify the homeowner's story. Yamashita said he was sure the man did nothing wrong.
"When it comes down to bears or mountain lions, if a person feels like they're threatened, they have every right by law to kill the animal," he said.
It did not appear that food or trash had been left out, Hogan and Yamashita said.
Bears are curious creatures and are inclined to explore and push on doors and windows, Yamashita said. He advised homeowners to lock up food and trash and lock doors and windows not in use.
Last week, a bear climbed through a window of a home in Cheyenne Canyon to grab steaks sitting on the counter. The homeowners found the bear and called authorities, who tranquilized the bear and relocated him 100 miles away.
http://www.gazette.com/articles/bear-56480-way-yamashita.html (http://www.gazette.com/articles/bear-56480-way-yamashita.html)
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Geez. Sad to hear about the bear, but damn. 100lb. Frickin Bear in the house? Hit 4 times with a Colt .45 (Think they mean .45LC?)
that would damn sure do it. Even a .45 ACP with good shot placement. Evidently, the shots landed, and worked regardless.
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I have a friend near Buena Vista that had a bear starting to come through the kitchen window. My friend took postion behind the kitchen table with his .357. My friend and his wife made enough of a rucus that they scared the bear, it backed out, and ran off. When they called the Department of Wildlife he was told there were numerous complaints about a problem bear in the area. They said if it the bear came back, shoot it.
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Geez. Sad to hear about the bear, but damn. 100lb. Frickin Bear in the house? Hit 4 times with a Colt .45 (Think they mean .45LC?)
that would damn sure do it. Even a .45 ACP with good shot placement. Evidently, the shots landed, and worked regardless.
TW, no such thing as LC.
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TW, no such thing as LC.
Beg to differ:
http://www.leverguns.com/articles/taylor/45_short_colt.htm
Gotta differentiate between long and short, unless you want the regular ones. ;D Yes I know it's a hornets nest but I will always refer to them as Long Colt.
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From your article...
As far as I know there have never been any .45 Colt cartridges headstamped "Long" and though I have reports of old cartridge boxes marked "45 Long" I have never personally seen any.
So how can you say "LC" is correct?
The rest is about people who call them long colt. Doesn't make it right just like there is a difference between clips and mags. Calling one by the wrong name (common as it is) does not make it correct.
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From your article...
As far as I know there have never been any .45 Colt cartridges headstamped "Long" and though I have reports of old cartridge boxes marked "45 Long" I have never personally seen any.
So how can you say "LC" is correct?
The rest is about people who call them long colt. Doesn't make it right just like there is a difference between clips and mags. Calling one by the wrong name (common as it is) does not make it correct.
I knew the mag/clip thing was going to come into this and it wasn't cause it was you Haz, it was because the terminology is a common one... It's long colt to me because there is a short version of the .45 Colt cartridge. Even as uncommon as the shorter version is, it still existed which means you have to have a term to tell them apart. Just as you have .45 ACP and .45 GAP
The .45 GAP is the same diameter as the .45 ACP pistol cartridge, but is shorter than the .45 ACP
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I will usually say .45 long Colt somewhere in a conversation about it when talking about a .45 Colt revolver. I have found that with most people, including a lot of gun people, when you say.45 when talking about a gun, the only thing they seem to know is .45 auto. I have to use the .45 long Colt designation to try help explain the two diffeant cartridges. I usually throw in something about it being the old cowboy .45 in western movies and sixgun revolvers. That seems to help them a bit to understand that there are different .45 caliber cartridges.
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Gee Haz, Picky, Picky,....
Just going with what is stamped on the barrel. " .45LC",,,,,, and than there is the .45 Auto Rimmed as well...
from Wikipedia:
Original name
The designation ".45 Long Colt" originated amongst military personnel to prevent confusion with the smaller .45 Schofield. It has become a widely used alternative name for the cartridge, and adopted by Colt for use in designating the chambering in its own Single Action Army revolvers.[3]
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/45LC.jpg)
,,,,Sorry for the popcorn,,,
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The designation ".45 Long Colt" originated amongst military personnel to prevent confusion with the smaller .45 Schofield. It has become a widely used alternative name for the cartridge, and adopted by Colt for use in designating the chambering in its own Single Action Army revolvers.[3][/b]
Then to confuse things even more, my Schofield uses .45LC! :o
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The bear's hide will be used for education after the carcass is examined to verify the homeowner's story. Yamashita said he was sure the man did nothing wrong.
While you fellas were pontficatin' on the varieties of .45 caliber ammo, I zeroed in on this. Verify the homeowner's story? What are the other options? He wasn't sure whether or not the bear had a gun so he shot him then dragged him inside? Or did he lure the bear to its untimely death using a trail of food? I'm under the distinct impression that if there is a bear in the house, justified or not, you should be able to shoot.
I now leave the floor open for discussion.
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The bear's hide will be used for education after the carcass is examined to verify the homeowner's story. Yamashita said he was sure the man did nothing wrong.
The lesson will be, Don't break into other peoples houses ;D
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Or picking up pic-in-ic baskets that don't belong to you. ;D
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