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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: Hazcat on June 22, 2009, 09:07:49 AM
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by Ted Nugent
06/18/2009
In his role as the guard captain of a Florida prison camp in the movie Cool Hand Luke, one of actor Strother Martin's more famous lines was: "Some men you just can't reach..."
There have always been psychotics intoxicated on power and evil. Such is the case for international kooks Kim Jong-Il of North Korea and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran. These men can't be reached with diplomacy, logic or reason.
It's incredibly naive and arrogant of the Obama blowhards to believe they can "talk" and reason through pragmatism with rabid kooks. Believing so is kookier than the kooks themselves.
As someone who believes in giving kooks enough rope to hang themselves, the right course of action would be to sever all communications with rogue, whacky regimes until they prove to the world they no longer have rabies. In the meantime, America should walk loudly, proudly, and carry an oil-soaked 2x4 wrapped with rusty barbed wire and always be ready to swat international kooks upside the head.
If we actually had a State Department that is more concerned about protecting America and our allies instead of trying to teach the world to sing Kumbaya, our State Department would have issued the following years ago:
"Effective immediately the United States will not have communications with psycho regimes such as North Korea and Iran, as we know these nations are led by individuals who are nuttier than a Snicker's bar. Should any nation launch a nuclear weapon or other weapon of mass destruction against the United States or our allies, we will immediately turn their nation in a heaping pile of uninhabitable rubble. If a rabid, kooky leader does not believe us, he just needs to ask himself question: Do I feel lucky?...'Well do ya, punk?'"
The reason international terrorpunks Ahmadinejad and Kim Jong-Il have launched missiles and threatened to wipe nations off of the map is because neither of these terrorthugs respects the Obama administration. These nuclear thugnuts believe President Obama is nothing more than an inexperienced windbag politician with no idea of how the levers of American power can be used to move the world. And, unfortunately, in that they are right.
In her most powerful and compelling response yet to Kim Jong–Il’s string of missile launches and underground nuclear weapons tests, Secretary of State Clinton sternly stated the United States is considering placing North Korea back on the list of terrorist states. The International Den of Thieves & Scoundrels, more commonly known as the United Nations, is considering placing more sanctions on North Korea. Rumor has it that when he heard this news, Kim Jong-Il muttered: ho-hum.
While continuing to develop nuclear power, which President Obama now amazingly says Iran has a right to do, newly re-elected President Ahmadinejad has routinely threatened to wipe Israel off the map. Following the bizzaro logic of stating Iran has a right to nuclear power, one has to wonder if President Obama has reverted to the habits of his youth and is smoking something stronger than unfiltered Camels.
With President Obama going around the world apologizing and blaming America instead of standing up for America, we should expect kooks like Kim Jung Ill-In-The-Head and The Nuclear Nightmare, Ahmadinejad, to continue to poke their crazy, nuclear-tipped fingers into the chest of America.
Nuts, kooks, whackjobs and evil regimes respond best when America acts from a position of strength. President Reagan proved that when he forced the Evil Empire to tear down the wall. American might -- not hollow words -- works. Windbag politicians are transparent, shallow and weak.
International kooks need to know they will be dealt with like a rabid dog should they ever try to bite. That's because some men you just can't reach.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=32341
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Due respect to the Nuge, but he's wrong on two key points.
Point the first. Iran DOES have the right to nuclear power. This was part of the non-proliferation treaty. If we deny them this, than WE have abbrogated the treaty and they can build as many bombs they like without any thing the international community can do, short of war.
Point the second. Threatening the Koreans with being put onthe list of state sponsors of terror is a very serious threat. Why? Because hidden in the legislation is a clause that lets us go after the assets of governments and individuals who are part of the regime. This is telling Kim Jung Il's generals, the only people who matter over there, that their retirement funds are about to vanish if there is not a change. They know this and so does Kim. Its essentially an open call for a coup. Whether it works, we'll see.
FQ13
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Due respect to the Nuge, but he's wrong on two key points.
Point the first. Iran DOES have the right to nuclear power. This was part of the non-proliferation treaty. If we deny them this, than WE have abbrogated the treaty and they can build as many bombs they like without any thing the international community can do, short of war.
Point the second. Threatening the Koreans with being put onthe list of state sponsors of terror is a very serious threat. Why? Because hidden in the legislation is a clause that lets us go after the assets of governments and individuals who are part of the regime. This is telling Kim Jung Il's generals, the only people who matter over there, that their retirement funds are about to vanish if there is not a change. They know this and so does Kim. Its essentially an open call for a coup. Whether it works, we'll see.
FQ13
Did you have this little accident FQ ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm34ZLlIvQg&feature=related
In case your College education overlooked it We have been at war with these riceburning assholes for over 50 years, No peace treaty was ever signed, compared to that sanctions ain't shit. Invading and damn near pushing them into the Yalu river didn't do it, starvation isn't doing it, what makes you think seizing some (We never get all) of their assets will inspire a coup.
As for Iran, jimmy the teeth talked them, that worked real well, If you knew what you were talking about you would realize that the only reason that Pakistan is not still on the non proliferation shitlist is because of the assistance they gave us against Al Queda and the Taliban they created.
True you can reason with anyone, but some, like Quadratic, You have to kick the crap out of to get their attention. Your reasoning stinks of cowardice or laziness.
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I'll let the cowardice thing slide this once Tom. The laziness is on your part. As I said the threat isn't against North Korea. It is against INDIVIDUAL eg personal accounts, held by their generals. These accounts, in every country we have reciprocity with, can be frozen and seized. I agree that after Clinton and W made good faith efforts to deal with these people diplomatically that talking will do little. However, this threat is designed to provide a personal incentive to NK generals to arrange a tragic accident. I am very unsure it will work, but its worth a shot as the only alternative is the Korean War part two and our army is a little busy right now.
FQ13
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Damn spell check, "Quadratic" should be Quadaffi ;D
Diplomacy only works with our ALLIES when we have them by the short and curlies, it won't work with Iran or N Korea either We should nuke at least one of them if not both, gives the America bashers something to think about.
You posted "As I said the threat isn't against North Korea. It is against INDIVIDUAL eg personal accounts, held by their generals. These accounts, in every country we have reciprocity with, can be frozen and seized"
I say, No way this will work, if it wasn't for the current regime they wouldn't have those accounts. They will not kill the goose that's laying golden eggs.