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Title: Duty Guns.....
Post by: langloisandy on June 22, 2009, 06:28:29 PM
For those in LE, what are you carrying?

I carry my GSP (Gunsite Service Pistol) a Springfield modified by the gents at Gunsite back in the dark ages.
I also carry my Stainless Colt Commader.


(working on photos to post)

Andy
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: blackwolfe on June 22, 2009, 06:35:24 PM
Damn, I thought that said dirty guns!  I was expecting porn.  I am looking forward to the pictures.
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: langloisandy on June 22, 2009, 06:40:44 PM
I'll work on the "dirty" guns photo!



Damn, I thought that said dirty guns!  I was expecting porn.  I am looking forward to the pictures.
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: MAUSERMAN on June 24, 2009, 01:25:10 AM
I was never a cop but i did work for Dunbar armor transport and i carried a 92fs and a Taurus 38 snubbie.
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: Sgt Z Squad on June 24, 2009, 05:52:43 AM
Avatar says it. DA/SA .40S&W :P
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: CurrieS103 on June 24, 2009, 08:24:49 AM
I'm in security and everybody is required to carry a Glock 17 or 19.

The Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office carry Glock 22 or 23s
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: shooter32 on June 24, 2009, 08:37:09 AM
The local PD here all carry Glock 21.
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: blackwolfe on June 24, 2009, 12:48:22 PM
I'm not in LE or security, but I do have a few duty guns.  I have a Colt Commander Lightweight that I bought from a retired cop and got his complete duty rig with it.  Also bought a cops backup Walther PPK/S .380 with a IWB holster.  His wife didn't like guns so he sold his backup piece which never made a lot of sense to me.  Also have an older surplus FN High Power that was an Austrian Border Police duty gun.  Wasn't looking for cop guns, these were just ones that happened to be duty guns that came my way.

My neighbor down the street works some very high end security and is issued an M-4 for his daily work.  Not sure what his sidearm is.  The township carries .45 Glocks, AR carbines, and 870s.  They just switched from Benniles to the 870s because the whiner on the force said the Bennalis were too complicated.  Sherrif's dept carries older HK 9mm, I forget what model, but they love em.  City cops just changed from 9mm S&W Sigma and Ruger PC carbines (sombody didn't want to spend money}  to I think Sigs in .40 and ARs.  They do not carry shotguns anymore.  One of the local cops recently used his AR with TAP rounds to shoot a loose buffalo calf 12 times that was running around town.
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 24, 2009, 01:17:44 PM
 Laconia PD carries Glocks, not sure of Cal. or Model, I think the Sheriffs dept also issues Glocks.
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: fightingquaker13 on June 25, 2009, 09:33:59 PM
Laconia PD carries Glocks, not sure of Cal. or Model, I think the Sheriffs dept also issues Glocks.
The Glock is hard to beat for LE. Idiot proof and runs when dirty, and ok accuracy. No offense to LEOs but too many cops don't seem to be gun attuned enough to justify anything more complex.The Glock is the AK-47 of pistols, and if I were buying for a PD (or the army for that matter) its what I would choose.
FQ13
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: 1911 Junkie on June 25, 2009, 09:37:37 PM
........The Glock is the AK-47 of pistols, .........
FQ13

Reason #23985 of why not to buy a glock.  ;D
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: Speedyfish on June 26, 2009, 06:38:55 PM
Sig Sauer P226 in .40 cal.  Certainly better than the S&W revolver I started with decades ago. 
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: MAUSERMAN on June 26, 2009, 08:48:18 PM
Maybe becasuse Glocks work evertime all the time just like AK's.
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: Combat Diver on August 08, 2009, 09:03:22 AM
I've trained yoo many foreign troops to know that AKs do malfunciton.  You should be in my line of work.

(http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/9809Combat_Diver-114.JPG)
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: cookie62 on August 08, 2009, 09:13:20 AM
Springfield XD-40, or Glock 19 when I need to keep more covered
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: Kid Shelleen on August 08, 2009, 10:19:02 AM
Texas State Police and my local Constable and deputies carry Sig 226 DAK in .357 Sig caliber.
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 08, 2009, 10:22:58 AM
I've trained yoo many foreign troops to know that AKs do malfunciton.  You should be in my line of work.

(http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/9809Combat_Diver-114.JPG)

Thanks but 3 years in the Marines was enough.
How come they never have a war in a place you might WANT to go to, like the Riviera ?
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: ericire12 on August 08, 2009, 10:42:06 AM
Thanks but 3 years in the Marines was enough.
How come they never have a war in a place you might WANT to go to, like the Riviera ?

Pearl Harbor...... War is always hell!
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: blackwolfe on August 08, 2009, 10:45:51 AM
Thanks but 3 years in the Marines was enough.
How come they never have a war in a place you might WANT to go to, like the Riviera ?
Wouldn't be much of a war in the French Riviera, but ah the piece keeping mission afterwards
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 08, 2009, 10:47:44 AM
Pearl Harbor...... War is always hell!

Yes, but note that when the Japanese realized it was a nice place they left in favor of sh!tholes like Guadalcanal.
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: long762range on August 08, 2009, 11:29:19 AM
How come they never have a war in a place you might WANT to go to, like the Riviera ?

We did have a war in southern France.  15 August-14 September 1944.

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b346/long762range/7tharmyassaultsouthernfrance.jpg)

Not a fun summer for the 7th Army.  Audey Murphy was involved in this assault.  Fought all the way to the German border before he was hurt too bad to continue.

http://www.history.army.mil/brochures/sfrance/sfrance.htm
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 08, 2009, 11:38:11 AM
 Yes Operation Husky I think it was called, The British were very resistant to the idea, they wanted to go to Yugoslavia ( another sh!thole ). You will note that "They" , Like the Japanese, got the troops out of the nice weather as fast as they could.
Another point, both comments highlight the fact that we have fought only in miserable sh!tholes for over 60 years.
;D
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: twyacht on August 08, 2009, 09:52:45 PM
Never in LE, although came really close, but the DUTY gun picked up faster by more dept.'s is yes,...

The S&W M+P in .40 cal.

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/DSCF1320.jpg)
25 yds. with Georgia Arms 180gr. FMJ. with a hangover, and not wearing my prescription glasses.


It is proving itself (IMHO, as I knew it would), ;), to be one hell of a fine pistol.
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: Ping on August 08, 2009, 10:26:28 PM
Carried a .38/.357 Smith and Wesson, later a Beretta 92F, a M-16/or GAU-5A, Remington 870 or Remington Wingmaster 1100, a M-60, a M-16 with M203, or a Mark-19 or was a assistant gunner for the heavier weapons as a Air Force Security Policeman. Afterwards I carried a Smith and Wesson 6906 and switched to a Glock 17, 22 and now a 21SF.
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: Walkeraviator on August 09, 2009, 07:52:01 AM
I am not LE either but have insight on local LE carry pieces.  Almost everyone here carries Glock.  You will find a few Sheriffs who have teh choice carry 1911.
My brother works for Brinks Armored Car.  He carries a S&W 4046(holy crappy gun), but teh company is slowly switching to M&P .40's.
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: MAUSERMAN on August 09, 2009, 08:36:14 PM
My gramps carried an mp 38spl in Guam along side his m1 carbine. He said 38spl did a bang up job puttin Japs to sleep. ;D
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: Majer on August 09, 2009, 09:14:14 PM
When I worked Armored Car I carried either my 1911, Browning HiPower or S&W Mod 19,Depending on who I was working with and what they carried(ammo interchangeability) with my S&W AirLite J-frame in an ankle rig. I also had access to a Mossberg 590 and would carry an American Derringer in .357 Mag in my cargo pocket. Also had a Gerber MultiPlier and a Kershaw Scallion with a serrated edge
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: tt11758 on August 12, 2009, 04:36:47 PM
When I started in LE back in the late 1970's it was a 4-inch S&W Model 66, stainless .357, with a 2-1/2 inch model 19 as a back-up.  From there we went to the Beretta 9mm's.  Since I left they went first to S&W 4566, and now have gone to S&W M&P.45's.

Of course we also had AR's, S&W 12 ga. pump shotguns with an 8 round mag, and a few other fun toys.  Ah, the good old days!!
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: mosbear on August 13, 2009, 06:42:31 PM
Never in LE, although came really close, but the DUTY gun picked up faster by more dept.'s is yes,...

The S&W M+P in .40 cal.

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/DSCF1320.jpg)
25 yds. with Georgia Arms 180gr. FMJ. with a hangover, and not wearing my prescription glasses.


It is proving itself (IMHO, as I knew it would), ;), to be one hell of a fine pistol.

Fine pistol, indeed. The only problem is a trigger, long and "lawyer-proof" out of the box. I did a trigger job the other day and now it's about 4lbs and brakes like a glass rod. Took about a hour.

Local PD all SIGs
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: jnevis on August 13, 2009, 07:07:21 PM
Duty weapon was the M9, M500, M14, and M16A3 (Navy Security)
Now I don't have to worry about it and can shoot whatever.  Glock 17, 23, M&P9, 1911A1 Commander, AR15 (M4), and M500.  The G17 was a police turn in and the AR and 500 are set up similar to my former duty weapons.
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: Ping on August 13, 2009, 07:26:30 PM
Good man jnevis, but I was a Air Force Security Policeman and Armorer. Carried the M9, Smith and Wesson .38 Revolver, M-16, GAU5A, M-79, XM-148, M203, M870 and M-60.  Now I am a Glock Fiend. But I do desire a 1911.  :) Just don't want to take out a second mortgage on one.
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: tt11758 on August 15, 2009, 11:25:24 AM
You realize, of course, that the reason so many LEO's carry Glocks has less to do with the weapon and more to do with the low bid, do you not?
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 15, 2009, 11:30:24 AM
You realize, of course, that the reason so many LEO's carry Glocks has less to do with the weapon and more to do with the low bid, do you not?

Doesn't THAT make you feel secure  ;D
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: r_w on August 15, 2009, 01:30:56 PM
You realize, of course, that the reason so many LEO's carry Glocks has less to do with the weapon and more to do with the low bid, do you not?

Same reason most recent contracts have been going to S&W. 

Back when Glock took over US LEO market, they were coming in at half the price of the other guys.  Last time I looked, there was only $50-100 difference between a Glock 21 and a Para GI Expert.  And that Para is out-of-the-box reliable--name a RELIABLE 1911 back when Glocks were introduced (and at what price).

Like Glock or not, they were a game-changer that helped make quality handguns more affordable for all of us.
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: Obiwan on August 20, 2009, 10:18:28 AM
H&K P2000 .40.   ;D
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: Walter45Auto on August 21, 2009, 12:02:38 AM
I'm not in LE, but I know a few Dallas police officers that carry a SIG 226. One of them told me that the Dallas Police only lets them carry SIGs or GLOCKS, and only may carry Glocks if they were hired before 2001. I know one Dallas Sheriff who carries an H&K USP .45, and another Dallas Sheriff who carries a Kimber SIS. I told my dad about the one who caries the H&K, and he said "I wonder if he knows how to use it?" I said "Dad, the department wouldn't spend the money to issue him an H&K (not outside of Germany anyway), and someone who spends that kind of money on one of those most likely knows how to use it."
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 21, 2009, 12:05:24 AM
I'm not in LE, but I know a few Dallas police officers that carry a SIG 226. One of them told me that the Dallas Police only lets them carry SIGs or GLOCKS, and only may carry Glocks if they were hired before 2001. I know one Dallas Sheriff who carries an H&K USP .45, and another Dallas Sheriff who carries a Kimber SIS. I told my dad about the one who caries the H&K, and he said "I wonder if he knows how to use it?" I said "Dad, the department wouldn't spend the money to issue him an H&K (not outside of Germany anyway), and someone who spends that kind of money on one of those most likely knows how to use it."

Good point, In fact I THINK German Cops carry Glocks too. Have to check with Pepper or Ultima Radio on that
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: Walter45Auto on August 21, 2009, 12:10:35 AM
Might depend what state in Germany they're in. I knew a Hamburg officer (K9 instructor) who says they're issued the H&K P3000. Of course that was  a few years ago so maybe they've changed it by now. He said they used to carry the SIG P6 (known as the 225 here in the US.) Said when he was a UC in narcotics he carried a Walther PPK.
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 21, 2009, 12:14:06 AM
Might depend what state in Germany they're in. I knew a Hamburg officer (K9 instructor) who says they're issued the H&K P3000. Of course that was  a few years ago so maybe they've changed it by now. He said they used to carry the SIG P6 (known as the 225 here in the US.) Said when he was a UC in narcotics he carried a Walther PPK.

I think that the switch to Glocks is were  those low priced reconned P6's came from that are around now.
When they retired their P 1's in the 80's I bought one for $225.
Title: Re: Duty Guns.....
Post by: Jackel on August 21, 2009, 02:13:07 PM
every time i was over the water i carried my Sig 229 "DAK". not the most reliable weapon but if you take good care of it it will go bang every time you pulled the trigger. The action is nice and smooth and i have had a match grade barrel installed so it can shoot a fly off a cup at 50 yards.