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Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: ericire12 on June 25, 2009, 11:02:46 AM
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http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/25/1911-blown-up/
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These photos are of a AMT Combat Government Hardballer 1911 pistol that fired a handloaded .45 ACP round that was overloaded with powder. The result is quite spectacular. The top of the chamber has been blown right off taking a considerable section of the slide with it.
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That had to be a heck of a charge but AMT isn't exactly known for quality.
We had a guy who double charged a .45 and shot it out of his Para. The gun handled the round O.K. but as it began to eject it blew the web out of the case, detonating the next round (or 2) in the magazine. It sent a bullet out the left side of the frame between the end of his thumb and trigger (and blew the base off the mag). Very lucky he didn't get hurt. The dumb ass then blamed the gun and wanted Para to pay him back for it. They rightfully said no (but offerd him a discount on a new gun, more than I would have done). We tried to explain to him it wasn't the gun but his stupidity and if he had been shooting a polymer framed gun we might be calling him stumpy. He never did "get it", but we've also never had to put up with him anymore, either.
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never seen a slide split like that before.
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If that would of been a pistol with an unsupported chamber, it would of possibly damaged the shooter very badly.
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If that would of been a pistol with an unsupported chamber, it would of possibly damaged the shooter very badly.
generally on 1911, they blow the mag out of the gun when you do a over charge... when its something like a glock, ( for the most part any top hung tirgger) it tends to chew up the finger real bad.
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Note: His fingers arent looking very pretty either!
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Note: His fingers arent looking very pretty either!
thats his thumb.. from the looks of wound it was cuased by the slide not the boom.
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thats his thumb.. from the looks of wound it was cuased by the slide not the boom.
No, that's his left index finger with the cuts.
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thats his thumb.. from the looks of wound it was cuased by the slide not the boom.
Got to disagree TAB, Left index finger, (His thumb is mostly hidden by the gun) Looks like the piece of slide that broke off got him.
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Friend of mine's dad had an old (reloaded too many times) case blow in his Gold Cup and it blew the left grip panel off (split it in two pieces).
No injuries, but we all had to go change underwear.
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I'm starting to reload and those pictures give me pause, as they should....
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Just don't reload when you are half asleep, drunk, or in a bad mood. I double check each round (looking at the actual charge before seating) because I don't use a progressive. I also weigh every tenth round to make sure they are in line with the others. If the weights don't add up then I go back and check them all, and pull the bullets on the offending cartridges.
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I'm starting to reload and those pictures give me pause, as they should....
Yes, reloading is serious business.
I would like to have examined that pistol, that is not a normal overloaded case situation, as someone else stated, a powder mix up perhaps? h110 or ww296? Experimenting?
My 1st thought was squib, and then another round behind it, next thought was the pistol had a feeding problem, and the bullet got shoved way back into the case and was then fired.
Most .45 acp's don't have supported chambers, especially 1911's, and if you look at the 2nd pic, the case head nearly completely separated, and has been stated earlier, the lower portion of the case under the feed ramp will blow out and become the relief valve, not enough to save a barrel, but a slide blow out is rare. I hope He pays more attention from now on. That hand is going to get his attention for some time for sure.
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LUCKY!!!
I have been reloading for about 8 months, I have had two squibs, one I know why (lack of powder) the other I haven't been able to figure out why. Gotta stay on top of your game when relading.
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LUCKY!!!
I have been reloading for about 8 months, I have had two squibs, one I know why (lack of powder) the other I haven't been able to figure out why. Gotta stay on top of your game when relading.
Maybe you should not be reloading if you cant at least stay on top of your typos. ;D
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LUCKY!!!
I have been reloading for about 8 months, I have had two squibs, one I know why (lack of powder) the other I haven't been able to figure out why. Gotta stay on top of your game when relading.
Most important advice I received when starting to reload (handgun rounds) was neat, tidy and zero distractions. I do not listen to the radio or have a tv going when reloading. I will do it with a friend in the room, but our discussion comes back to specs every couple minutes, because we are both checking quality while one is loading.
The neat and tidy is real important. Since we own this press together, and it is in his home, I deal with conditions dictated by him and his sons using it. Last time I arrived I was doing the caliber conversion, as expected and normal, but I spent an hour reorganizing the bench that had become a cluttered mess. I want nothing out but what I know and what I intend to use - one primer, one powder, one bullet, one brass, one set of notes and books, one set of gauges (all set for or sized for what I am reloading), one set of spare parts and tools, etc. Reloading has done wonders for my organizational skills.
Watch the old westerns where the bank and train robbers were handling unsteady explosives. That is how I treat my reloading (not as nervous, but just as serious).