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Member Section => Tactical Rifle & Carbine => Topic started by: kilopaparomeo on June 30, 2009, 09:37:28 PM
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Just took pics for insurance purposes...thought I'd throw them out...
Sorry for the poor quality pics
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J&T upper on DPMS lower, 5.56x45mm
Stag/CMT upper, WOA SPR barrel on AeroPrecision Lower, 6.8x43mm SPC
J&T upper on DPMS lower, 5.56x45mm
WOA DCM upper on Rock River lower, 5.56x45mm
Oly Arms upper on DPMS lower, 9x19mm
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CETME, 7.62x51mm
PTR91, 7.62x51mm
DSA StG58A, 7.62x51mm
DSA SA58, 7.62x51mm
Egyptian FN49, 7.92x57mm
Springfield Armory M1A Loaded, 7.62x51mm
WASR-10 AKM, , 7.62x39mm
Yugoslavian SKS M49/51, 7.62x39mm
(http://i41.tinypic.com/121suoh.jpg)
1944 Springfield Armory M1 Garand, .30-06
1941 Springfield Armory M1 Garand, .30-06
1939 Springfield Armory M1 Garand, .30-06
Springfield Armory 1903A3, .30-06
Eddystone M1917, .30-06
Inland M1 Carbine, .30 Carbine
Springfield Armory 1898 Krag, .30-40
Springfield Armory 1873 Trapdoor, .45-70
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Ishapore Enfield 2A, .303 British (premature senior moment -- is actually 7.62 NATO)
Savage Enfield No. 4, Mk I*, .303 British
Fazerkly Enfield No. 4, Mk 1/2, .303 British
MAS 36, 7.5x54mm
Mannlicher-Berthier M96/13, 8 mm Lebel
Swedish M1896 Mauser 1900 Oberndorf, 6.5x55mm
Swedish M1896 Mauser 1903 Gustav, 6.5x55mm
Swiss K31, 7.5x55mm
Swiss K31, 7.5x55mm
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Yugoslavian M48 Mauser, 7.92x57mm
Mauser K98k, 7.92x57mm
Mauser K98k, 7.92x57mm
Type 99 Arisaka, 7.7x58mm
Mosin-Nagant M38, 7.62x54R
Mosin-Nagant M44, 7.62x54R
Mosin-Nagant 91/30, 7.62x54R
Finnish M39 Sako, 7.62x54R
Finnish M39 B-barrel, 7.62x54R
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Pedersoli Billy Dixon 1874 Sharps, .45-70
Rossi Winchester 1892 clone, .45 Colt
Mossberg M46, .22 LR
Ruger 10-22T, .22 LR
Ruger 10-22, .22 LR
Savage Cub, .22 LR
Charles Daly Zavasta, .22 LR
Henry H001, .22 LR
Henry H001, .22 LR
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BOHICA .50 BMG upper on DPMS lower
Spanish FR-8, 7.62x51mm
E Robinson contract, .58 cal blackpowder
Israeli FN Mauser, Bubba-work by me, 7.62x51mm
Tikka T3, .300 WSM
Gamo Hunter, .177
Gamo Delta, .177
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Outstanding porn, If you ever need a couch weight, beer exterminator and range buddy for a weekend, I'm there. BUT I would delete that post. Seriously, that would tempt a nun and have ATF reaching for the red phone.
FQ13 >:( :'(
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Holy Smokes !!!
That's "World Class" porn KPR. The very best that I have ever seen from one individual !!!
WOW!!!!!!! Nothing left to say.
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Listen, if you need a safety check on any of your toys I volunteer. ;D
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BUT I would delete that post. Seriously, that would tempt a nun and have ATF reaching for the red phone.
FQ13 >:( :'(
I'm in Brazil for business right now, but my kids have been taught that if the ATF wants them, they can get them...147 grains at a time. :)
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Very nice. Just saw a squad of black helicoptors flying west over Lake Michigan toward the occupied zone. I think they are headed your way.
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SWEET!
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HOLY GOD IN HEAVEN!!!
OK.... I've GOT to ask... Your favorite is?
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*Sniff, that's just so beautiful :'(
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The porn is outstanding, I just changed my shorts twice because of you.
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Now that's one of the sexyest porn postings I've seen here in awhile!!! :o :o :o
A .50BMG too ;D 8) ;D 8) ;D 8)
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OK.... I've GOT to ask... Your favorite is?
The ones that get fondled the most are the FAL Para, one of the Garands and the Sharps. I really have a fondness for the M39s also.
Hey blackwolfe -- where on the "Sunset Coast of Michigan" are you? I'm there all the time in St. Joe. Shoot at Berrien Sportsmans Club and Waltervliet
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kilopaparomeo, what's the chances of pic show on the handguns? ;)
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Leaving to get on a plane back to the states...may be until Thursday morning to get to it.
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Leaving to get on a plane back to the states...may be until Thursday morning to get to it.
Have a safe flight back !!
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<---------------jealous
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KPR,
You have the Ishapore 2A listed as a .303. Isn't it .308 (7.62 Nato)?
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KPR, questions, Is the Krag a "work in progress" it looks like the stock is not finished and the trigger guard, if it is there, does not show in the picture
The Egyptian FN 49, Was that the "Hakim" or the "Rashid" I can never keep those 2 straight.
I hope you kept the stock for the Israeli Mauser, those are the rarest of the Mauser variants I understand .
Is the Mannlicher-Berthier M96/13, 8 mm Lebel a shooter ? do you have to reload your own ammo or is some available commercially ?
On the Spanish FR8 what is that tube under the barrel, it LOOKS like a gas tube, but the manual bolt is clearly visible ?
Killer collection !
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KPR,
You have the Ishapore 2A listed as a .303. Isn't it .308 (7.62 Nato)?
Haz, the original chambering was the standard British .303, in the late 50's early 60's most were converted to 7.62 NATO. KPR's was probably surplused out before that.
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Haz, the original chambering was the standard British .303, in the late 50's early 60's most were converted to 7.62 NATO. KPR's was probably surplused out before that.
Gahhh :-\ **embarassed** that will teach me to cut and paste from the Enfields...yes, is a 7.62 NATO. Good catch by hazcat and even better clarification by tombogan!! (we gunnies sure love our trivia, huh?)
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I have one (Ishy) myself, KPR and I THOUGHT all of the imports were the converted ones. Is that correct or are there any Ishy .303 around? I know if it is a 2A that means converted.
Do you have any extra mags for yours? I have been looking for some. Mine came with the 12 round.
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KPR, questions, Is the Krag a "work in progress" it looks like the stock is not finished and the trigger guard, if it is there, does not show in the picture
The Egyptian FN 49, Was that the "Hakim" or the "Rashid" I can never keep those 2 straight.
I hope you kept the stock for the Israeli Mauser, those are the rarest of the Mauser variants I understand .
Is the Mannlicher-Berthier M96/13, 8 mm Lebel a shooter ? do you have to reload your own ammo or is some available commercially ?
On the Spanish FR8 what is that tube under the barrel, it LOOKS like a gas tube, but the manual bolt is clearly visible ?
Krag -- bought the 98 Krag in a NRA sporterized stock...in other words cut down stock but fortunately the barrel was left intact. Have finally gathered all the correct metal hardware to restore it but have looked in vain for a good condition stock. Finally ordered a semi-inletted stock from Boyds. Just haven't found the time to complete it.
FN49 -- actually it was neither the Hakim or the Rasheed. Hakim was a 8mm direct impingment (based on the Ljungman), tipping bolt rifle. The Rasheed was the scaled down verion for the 7.62x39mm. The FN49 was Diuedonne Saive's predecessor to the FAL. The bolt and gas system are very similar to the FAL.
Israeli Mauser stock -- I didn't keep it because I bought it in the 80's when they were plentiful, cheap and I was an idiot. These will be around forever, surely! Not.
Mannlicher-Berthier -- by maternal grandfather brought this one back after he picked it up in France during WWII. Never got the story on where/how he got it. It is 8mm Lebel has the "N" proof for the higher pressure, spitzer bullets. I have a original box of Remington cartridges that date from the 1950's but will never shoot those as they are worth almost as much as the rifle. I reload mild charges with Lee dies. You can get brass occasionally from Graf's...it is actually quite pleasant to shoot. Point of interest...I got the Mannlicher, the Trapdoor and a Winchester 97 from him. My mother used to tell stories that he only fired the the Trapdoor and Mannlicher off on New Year's eve.
FR-8 -- That "gas tube" is actually....a gas/piston tube from the CETME (as is the flash hider and front sight). It is non-functional and I believe most soliders used it as a storage compartment for cleaning kits. The end cap for the tube is also the bayonet lug. The Spanish used the same parts to convert Mausers to 7.62 NATO. Handy little rifle...they would make a really nice truck gun as they are very compact. It has quite a bark though with the short barrel and light weight.
Only rifles not shown in the pics are a Golani that I just got and a MSAR StG556 E4 that is on order and I hope is delivered sometime this summer.
Hazcat -- yup...had a complete premature senior moment when I typed .303 British...it's the rifle's own fault for confusing me by looking like a No 1 Mk III. Nope, no extra mags...I think Sarco and SOG had some a while ago but haven't seen them lately.
Last post for a while...changing planes and settling in for the 12 hour leg of the trip.
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Very, Very Nice!! Bill T.
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Thanks for the Info, AND the porn.
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Damnnnnnnnnnnnnn! You win!
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That is the best porn I have seen on here, Thought I was looking at more photos of the NRA Museum!!! Wow'd again. :o
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Can I be your shootin buddy, because we all need friends like you. ;D
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I have one (Ishy) myself, KPR and I THOUGHT all of the imports were the converted ones. Is that correct or are there any Ishy .303 around? I know if it is a 2A that means converted.
Do you have any extra mags for yours? I have been looking for some. Mine came with the 12 round.
Sorry guys, but the 7.62 NATO Ishy is not a conversion. According to an article in the "1993 Guns Illustrated" the NoI MkIII reciever was not strong enough to handle the pressure of the NATO round. Since India didn't really have the money to purchase the FAL in quantity, and they did have a factory that had been making the .303 NoI MkIII since 1907, they decided that a stronger receiver on the NoI MkIII pattern would have to suffice. Except for the obvious differences the internal parts of both rifles are supposed to be interchangable.
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For shooter32
Just got off the plane from Brazil and drove home from O'Hare. Good to be back in the USA...have a good 4th all and remember how blessed we are to have what is left of our Independence.
Here's the handguns and shotguns...I'm not as much in to these as I am rifles and I haven't yet laid out the identification for each picture. Maybe later
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Finnish M28 9x19 mm
Walther P1 9x19 mm
Romanian Tokarev 7.62x25 mm
Makarov 9x18mm
CZ52 7.62x25 mm
CZ82 9x18 mm
Star BM 9x19mm
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Ruger Blackhawk, .45 Colt
Ruger Vaquero, .45 Colt
Ruger Vaquero, .45 Colt
Pietta .22LR
S&W M1917, .45 ACP
Colt King Cobra, .357 Magnum
Nagant, 7.62 Nagant
Pietta 1851 Colt repro, .36 blackpowder
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EAA / Tanfoglio Witness 10mm, .45 ACP, 9x19 mm
Ruger Mk II, .22 LR
HK P7 PSP, 9x19mm
Les Baer Premier II, .45 ACP
Colt Combat Commander, .45 ACP
ParaOrd 14.45 LDA Ltd, .45 ACP
Dan Wesson CBOB, .45 ACP
Kimber Target Match, .45 ACP, Marvel .22 LR Conversion
FN Hi Power, 9x19 mm
Springfield Armory XD Tactical, .45 ACP
Sig Sauer P226, .40 S&W
Sig Sauer P220, .45 ACP
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Saiga-12 12 ga
Mossberg 500 12 ga
Mossberg500 12 ga
Stoeger Coach Gun 12 ga
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Repeat of the Mossbergs
Remington 870 Express 20 ga
Remington 870 12 ga
Remington 1100 12 ga
Langer 2097 12 ga
Fausti 20 ga
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Browning BPS 20 ga
Winchester Model 12 12 ga
Winchester 1897 12 ga
Repeat of the Stoeger
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For shooter32
Just got off the plane from Brazil and drove home from O'Hare. Good to be back in the USA...have a good 4th all and remember how blessed we are to have what is left of our Independence.
Here's the handguns and shotguns...I'm not as much in to these as I am rifles and I haven't yet laid out the identification for each picture. Maybe later
Finnish M28 9x19 mm
Walther P1 9x19 mm
Romanian Tokarev 7.62x25 mm
Makarov 9x18mm
CZ52 7.62x25 mm
CZ82 9x18 mm
Star BM 9x19mm
Ruger Blackhawk, .45 Colt
Ruger Vaquero, .45 Colt
Ruger Vaquero, .45 Colt
Pietta .22LR
S&W M1927, .45 ACP
Colt King Cobra, .357 Magnum
Nagant, 7.62 Nagant
Pietta 1851 Colt repro, .36 blackpowder
Damn, I just hate you soooooooo much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can I please be your friend? ? ? ? ;D ;D ;D
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Holy Moley :o :o :o
Dayum, very nice "my friend" ;D
Thanks for posting the handguns and the shotguns!!!!
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Its almost worth moving to Illinois just to be your neighbor!
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Danm. The drool is shorting out my keyboard.
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This is better than doughnuts and milk.........damn. :D
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WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For a fella that's not much into handguns and shotguns, that's one fine collection. ;D
All combined, I've never seen a private collection of that magnitude before and doubt that I ever will again.
Very, very impressive KPR.
Thank you so very much for posting some porn that made every member of this forum drool for hours on end.
Simply the best.
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There is no way this could be owned by someone in Illinois!!! I was way impressed in the beginning, but geez, you'd have to be a mutli-millionaire to get through all the red tape to own all these firearms in a anti-gun state. I thought Charlton Heston had a collection???
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I dont hate you but can i be in your will. ;D
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There is no way this could be owned by someone in Illinois!!! ...to get through all the red tape to own all these firearms in a anti-gun state.
Actually, if you don't live in Chicago, Illinois isn't a difficult state to own firearms in. In fact, if you cut Chicago off and floated it out into the lake, the state's attitude would be much closer to Wyoming than New Jersey.
You do have to have an ID card (called a FOID) and there is a 1 day waiting period for longguns...3 day for handguns. Other than that, no huge roadblocks. Now, having no ability to own full auto and no provision for CCW is outrageous. Fortunately, no mag capacity limits or made-up AWB.
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Actually, if you don't live in Chicago, Illinois isn't a difficult state to own firearms in. In fact, if you cut Chicago off and floated it out into the lake, the state's attitude would be much closer to Wyoming than New Jersey.
You do have to have an ID card (called a FOID) and there is a 1 day waiting period for longguns...3 day for handguns. Other than that, no huge roadblocks. Now, having no ability to own full auto and no provision for CCW is outrageous. Fortunately, no mag capacity limits or made-up AWB.
Sounds like a REALLY good idea to me.
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Actually, if you don't live in Chicago, Illinois isn't a difficult state to own firearms in. In fact, if you cut Chicago off and floated it out into the lake, the state's attitude would be much closer to Wyoming than New Jersey.
You do have to have an ID card (called a FOID) and there is a 1 day waiting period for longguns...3 day for handguns. Other than that, no huge roadblocks. Now, having no ability to own full auto and no provision for CCW is outrageous. Fortunately, no mag capacity limits or made-up AWB.
We'd have the nations largest 'floater'..........just waiting on a flush. ;D
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Don't float it out into the lake. Cut it off and sink it right at the dock. The prevailing winds would land that shitpile of humanity right on Blackwolfes front door in St Joseph, MI.
Cut it off and light the fuse! Wait for bright flash and tap another keg! ;D
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KPR, I don't know what you do for a living, but are they hiring ? ;D
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Actually, if you don't live in Chicago, Illinois isn't a difficult state to own firearms in. In fact, if you cut Chicago off and floated it out into the lake, the state's attitude would be much closer to Wyoming than New Jersey.
You do have to have an ID card (called a FOID) and there is a 1 day waiting period for longguns...3 day for handguns. Other than that, no huge roadblocks. Now, having no ability to own full auto and no provision for CCW is outrageous. Fortunately, no mag capacity limits or made-up AWB.
No FOID!
No damn waiting periods!
Yes to full-auto, suppressors and CCW.
What part of "shall not be infringed" don't these people get?
And does anyone wonder why I left that state for ND, where I can go out and shoot from my ranch house porch and no one gives a rip?
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Pathfinder
I couldn't agree more. One of the reasons I just moved to Michigan (well, actually, I moved so I'd actually have a job versus being unemployed).
I don't know what you do for a living, but are they hiring ?
Nah, its called 30 years of prioritizing firearm purchases over other things.
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KPR,
Welcome to Michigan. We need your vote! And Jennifer needs more people to pay MI taxes -- still less than IL though.
BTW nice collection.
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Pathfinder
I couldn't agree more. One of the reasons I just moved to Michigan (well, actually, I moved so I'd actually have a job versus being unemployed).
Nah, its called 30 years of prioritizing firearm purchases over other things.
My problem is I seem to prioritize the one I want over the one I HAVE ;D