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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: Dharmaeye on July 01, 2009, 08:29:31 AM
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http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/ollam1.html
The plain fact is, in the United States of America we have the right not only to possess firearms but also the right to travel with them to any destination we see fit. The Firearm Owner’s Protection Act of 1986 contains the Safe Passage provision, which explicitly elucidates that citizens have the right to journey state to state with firearms as long as they are locked and unloaded. This freedom of travel is unquestionable… even in instances where a party may cross borders and pass through jurisdictions with varied rules and regulations. As many of us who live along or near the Eastern seaboard know, we can drive through a state like New York with firearms even if they are not legal in the state of New York… the jumble of incongruous and sometimes draconian local laws is not a concern for the people who are merely passing by.
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You may be correct BUT NY, Ma. and Il feel they are above the law and will confiscate your fire arms feds be damned.
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I frequently fly with firearms and ammunition. I follow the TSA rules and regulations and I have never had any problems. I also check the website of the airline (if it's not one that I fly often) and check up on the airlines policy.
I have found the process to be quick and easy.
I do always check with the Texas Department of Public Safety's website to get the latest on states that have CC reciprocity with Texas. I only fly with a firearm to those states. I would never fly to D.C., Chicago, New York, etc. with a firearm. I just don't want to risk the loss of a gun that I like.
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I'm sure The Pincus will have some words for us about this subject
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He'll sum it up in 4 letters (Not THOSE 4 ;D ) PITA
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I'm not planning on flying with guns anytime soon.... a quick search for the thread from the last "flying with guns" episode will reveal why. :)
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I'm not planning on flying with guns anytime soon.... a quick search for the thread from the last "flying with guns" episode will reveal why. :)
Rob, help with the link please. I did a search for "flying with guns" and did not locate the thread. I respect you and the DRTV team more than any others in the field. If you're opposed I'd like to know why and I'll change my habits to follow your advise.
Thanks,
Kid
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Here it is Kid
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=6161.0
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For anyone unlucky enough to HAVE to come to MA and wish to avoid Boston altogether, I would suggest NEVER arriving into Logan and instead would schedule through Providence TF Green or Hartford's Bradley Intl airports. They are much easier to get in and out of regardless of whether your traveling with a firearm or not.
I've lived here 27 years and only flew out of Logan once because my flight was canceled out of Green...never again, NEVER!
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For anyone unlucky enough to HAVE to come to MA and wish to avoid Boston altogether, I would suggest NEVER arriving into Logan and instead would schedule through Providence TF Green or Hartford's Bradley Intl airports. They are much easier to get in and out of regardless of whether your traveling with a firearm or not.
I've lived here 27 years and only flew out of Logan once because my flight was canceled out of Green...never again, NEVER!
Pease, Nashua, and Manchester NH are also fairly close to Boston.
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Here it is Kid
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=6161.0
Thanks for the link Tom.
Holy moley. What a bunch of pain in the a&^ tales. No wonder all the concern.
I don't fly as much as Rob and I only check one gun. I almost always fly out of DFW, usually on American or Delta. I usually check my Walther PPK/S .380 with two empty mags in the original factory box with a TSA approved lock. I generally check one or two boxes of Hornady Critical Defense in the original boxes. Sometimes Federal Hydrashoks or RBCD, all in factory boxes. I also check a holster and usually a good knife. I've done this around 20 times or so to varying destinations since 9-11. I was on a plane on the morning of 9-11, but that's another story. My trips where I check a gun are always to one point and back (like Dallas to Orlando and Orlando back to Dallas). I never check when going to multiple cities on the same trip. Again, just a different type of travel than Rob's job requires.
As I said before, I only check firearms to destinations that have reciprocity with Texas. I know the TSA rules by heart and I always check the airline's website or call if I'm not familiar with their rules. As RP stated, airlines can have rules that differ from the TSA. I am usually wearing a suit when I travel and many strangers have asked over the years if I'm a LEO. I have no idea why. I'm clean cut and usually in a suit, but so are a zillion other business travelers. I guess that something just makes people think that way. Maybe it's the fact that I'm always in cowboy boots even when in a suit. Perfectly acceptable combo in Texas. Heck I don't know. Last year my wife and I were traveling to Paris with another couple. A stranger came up and asked me and my buddy if we were CIA or FBI. Again no clue why. I asked the guy why and he said, "You look like a Federal agent." What the H do Federal agents look like. I didn't know that they were required to have a certain "look."
Long story short, I now see that I have been very lucky. I have never had lost luggage that contained a firearm and my experiences have been smooth as silk. I guess that I've just been lucky enough to get the right agents at check-in.