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Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: Erebus on July 03, 2009, 11:40:56 AM
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Hello Sirs. First, I wanna say I really enjoy watching all the shows...Cowboys, Shooting Gallery and especially Best Defense. I recently got a Glock G19 for concealed carry and have began my search for a IWB holster. There are so many different ones, that it's getting overwhelming. A few of the manufacturers I've been looking at are Blade-tech, Galco, Milt Sparks, Sidearmor, Comp-Tac... I've been comtemplating kydex since it can get quite humid where I live, but leather would be fine by me too. However, if possible, I would want to go much beyond $100 in price. So, I was wondering if you gentleman could give me your suggestions...Specific brand you perfer? Specific model? etc. I'd really appreciate your advice and suggestions. Thank you!
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Although I know the question isn't directed to the forum, I can tell you that I carry a full size 1911 in a Milt Sparks Summer Special 2 routinely and it disappears. I love this holster and it's in stock at Brownells for your Glock 19.
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/sid=25822/pid=9922/sku/Glock_19_23
I'm not really a kydex guy but I know many who are and they swear by Blade-Tech.....also in stock for your Glock.
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/sid=5358/pid=25324/sku/Glock_19_23_32
Lastly, you should take a look at the Blackhawk Serpa as it is also an outstanding holster with an added measure of security as you need to push a button on the side of the holster to release the gun.
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/sid=49706/pid=26375/sku/Standard_Glock_19_23_32
Good luck...you won't go wrong with either of these choices.
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Never one to pass up an opportunity to promote a product that I have been very happy with, may I recommend a "Silent Thunder" from Tucker Gun Leather. It is leather lined kydex and it is "tuckable." I have a couple and really love them. It might take a little fiddling when you first get it to get the retention tension where you want it but that is kind of a personal preference anyway.
http://rlcompanyusa.stores.yahoo.net/sithiw.html (http://rlcompanyusa.stores.yahoo.net/sithiw.html)
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Look at the Galco N3 IWB holster. It comes out in Aug. It is a little spendy, But it is the one I have been looking for for a long time. I will be purchasing this for my Glock M19 as soon as it hits the market. Good Luck.
http://www.usgalco.com/HolsterPG2.asp
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Thanks for the replies everyone. Although I didn't say, I'd like to hear what the forum members are using too. I appreciate all the suggestions and advice.
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In previous episodes of TBD, Mr. Pincus and Mr. Janich were at the range performing shooting drills. Both wore Blackhawk Serpa Holsters.
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Currently, for an IWB, I use an El Cheapo for G26 and I like it. Its a very flimsy looking Galco with suede outside and smooth leather inside. I got i because I was in your position and just needed something now and figured I'd upgrade. But it is one comfortable rig and it draws smoothly. The downside is that there is zero structure to the holster and so holstering is a PITA. I too am in market for "the" holster, but for now I am very happy with the $35 I spent.
FQ13
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Guess I will put my $.02 out there. I love Milt Sparks..but teh wait is way to long to keep me happy. I carry my M&P .40c in a Comp-Tac MTAC IWB holster and love it. From day one it felt great, and after a week of wearing it, it wore the leather in good and holy crap is this awesome.. I cant even tell i am wearing it sometimes... at the 4 oclock position, i can even drive around town without any discomfort... most IWBs sucks once you sit down and buckle in.
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Thanks for the replies everyone. Although I didn't say, I'd like to hear what the forum members are using too. I appreciate all the suggestions and advice.
Erebus, give fellow forum member Andy a look see!
http://andysgunthoughts.wordpress.com/sale/
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I am a huge fan of the Crossbreed Super Tuck Deluxe. Wear the thing anywhere between 8 and 12 hours a day. It's extremely comfortable. Has a large leather section and a molded kydex holster. The leather back keeps the gun from digging into you and if you have to remove it, the kydex makes it very easy to re-holster. It's also a tuckable holster and has the ability to change the height and cant of the firearm.
http://www.crossbreedholsters.com/
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+1 for the crossbreed. Genious in its simplicity.
But whatever you choose, remember that a good belt is more important that the holster.
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+1 on the importance of a good belt!
Leather is generally more comfortable than Kydex...the best IWBs I have are from the master, the late Lou Alessi. You might check with John at 5 Shot Leather (http://www.5shotleather.com/), who is doing exceptional leather work these days. I also have several current holsters from Ted Blocker (http://www.tedblockerholsters.com/index.php) and I've been very happy with them as well.
I've probably worn Blade-Tech IWBs more than any other holsters. On short slide/barrel guns, they're very comfortable. I also have IWBs from Brian Hoffner (http://www.hoffners.com/products.htm) and they work extremely well (especially his super-slick revolver IWBS).
Michael B
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Thanks Mr. Baine for the links. I'll be sure to check them out. I most definately want something that is comfortable.
I am a huge fan of the Crossbreed Super Tuck Deluxe. Wear the thing anywhere between 8 and 12 hours a day. It's extremely comfortable. Has a large leather section and a molded kydex holster. The leather back keeps the gun from digging into you and if you have to remove it, the kydex makes it very easy to re-holster. It's also a tuckable holster and has the ability to change the height and cant of the firearm.
http://www.crossbreedholsters.com/
True_Texan, How durable and sturdy are the belt clips on the Super Tuck Deluxe?
Guess I will put my $.02 out there. I love Milt Sparks..but teh wait is way to long to keep me happy. I carry my M&P .40c in a Comp-Tac MTAC IWB holster and love it. From day one it felt great, and after a week of wearing it, it wore the leather in good and holy crap is this awesome.. I cant even tell i am wearing it sometimes... at the 4 oclock position, i can even drive around town without any discomfort... most IWBs sucks once you sit down and buckle in.
And Walkeraviator, How's the quality on the MTAC? Does it seem to stay in place well?
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Thanks Mr. Baine for the links. I'll be sure to check them out. I most definately want something that is comfortable.
True_Texan, How durable and sturdy are the belt clips on the Super Tuck Deluxe?
I have been using mine for at least 6 months now and haven't had a problem. They have retained their shape and hold fast all day long. It can sometimes be a pain to get them to let loose. A friend of mine has the holster for a M&P .45 which he rarely wears do to workplace policy and he recently broke one. He had snagged it on something and bent it. After straightening it out, it lasted for several more months and then snapped off when he snagged it again. He is rather clumsy sometimes. But with a short email to the company, they sent out replacements free of charge. Lifetime warranty on their stuff. Even broken, the holster was still completely usable.
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To start off my personal opinion for me I do not care for kydex.
This is what I would buy:
Order an IWB fromT&T Gunleather for $80. This a Milt Sparks VMII clone but with a better feel. The cant is more comfortable and the gun sits lower which I like. Excellent quality. Contact Tim before the wait gets any longer. Less than a year ago it was 6 weeks. Now 16 weeks.
Okay what to do in the meantime. Gunners Alley has Don Hume IWB leather holster with re-inforced opening and a very solid C clamp for $26 which sholud hold you over.
If you want a VMII, I have one for my Sig P226, try Lighting Arms or Top Gun Supply they stock some for the more popular handguns.
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Thanks for the info on the belt clips, True_Texan.
And on the belt suggestion...Can anyone reccommend a non-leather belt?
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Thanks for the info on the belt clips, True_Texan.
And on the belt suggestion...Can anyone reccommend a non-leather belt?
These are great belts and a fine alternative to leather.... http://store.thewilderness.com/index.php?cPath=43
Go for the 5 stitch belt and it will handle any gun you wish to carry including a full size 1911.
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These are great belts and a fine alternative to leather.... http://store.thewilderness.com/index.php?cPath=43
Go for the 5 stitch belt and it will handle any gun you wish to carry including a full size 1911.
Thanks for the link CDR. It's just what I was looking for. Do you perfer the Instructor belt or the Frequent Flyer/Ring Belt?
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Another vote for the Crossbreed Supertuck. I carry a full size gubmint model in one. It's quite comfortable while driving, working around the yard and at work. And that would be for hours at a time. I'm not a big fan of tuckable, but that too is an option if you can't utilize a cover garment. Best holster I've used for a full size gun, hands down. And, just like everyone else who's carried for any length of time, I've got a big box of those that didn't quite work out.
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+1 on the wilderness belt. The frequent flyer is more comfortable if your belly, um, rests over your belt. But it will slip a little if you really try to cinch it down. I have both and prefer the FF with a Glock but would probably use the original with a heavier gun.
DEFINITELY get the 5 stitch and whichever size best fits your beltloops.
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Quality on the MTAC is top notch. It is adjustable on retention by two allen screws, and the kydex can be changed out to fit other handguns instead of buying a whole new holster. It stays in place very well as i use a good 1.5" belt to hold it. Please excuse the beer gut in the pictures...
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Thanks for the link CDR. It's just what I was looking for. Do you perfer the Instructor belt or the Frequent Flyer/Ring Belt?
I have the Titanium Instructor's belt and love it. It works in airports as well as the titanium buckle has never set off any of the metal detectors I've walked through, so I never had a need for the Frequent Flyer model. I routinely carry a full size 1911 with either this belt or a Milt Sparks and both do the job equally as well.
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Thanks Walkeraviator for the photos of the MTAC in use. Looks like a nice setup I'll have to consider.
And thanks to CDR for the feedback on the belt. I'm not really in airports often so I think I'll go for the regular Instructor belt.
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Erebus,
Sorry for the delay... in the future, anyone wanting to get a question to me, please use the Defense or TBD forums (as appropriate) or PM me... I don't check the other forums regularly!
I think the best IWB holster for your pistol is the Blade-Tech kydex. They are thin, durable and secure. I have several, the one that I use with my Glocks (23, 27, 19, etc) is over 12 years old and still going strong.
-RJP
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Sorry for my delay too Mr. Pincus. Life has been busy recently. Thanks for the advice. I have made the decision to get the Blade-Tech. I guess my only other question is which model...The IWB with loops or The Ultimate Concealment? Also, just wanna say, I really enjoy watching your segments on TBD.
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Yet another sorry for the delay! I dread looking at the computer each AM...
I'm gonna side with Rob on Blade-tech...not quite as comfortable as leather, but not a big deal — especially in a short-slide gun like a G19. I have a G19 and a Blade-tech.
The best IWB holsters ever were made by the great Lou Alessi, and he has Left The Building.
Michael B
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Yet another sorry for the delay! I dread looking at the computer each AM...
I'm gonna side with Rob on Blade-tech...not quite as comfortable as leather, but not a big deal — especially in a short-slide gun like a G19. I have a G19 and a Blade-tech.
The best IWB holsters ever were made by the great Lou Alessi, and he has Left The Building.
Michael B
Didn't you mention on a podcast that some one was still producing Alessi designs ?
Was it Andy L. ?
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Podcast and links here:
http://www.downrange.tv/radio/99.htm
;D
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After re-reading the thread and seeing the earlier responses regarding the belt, I would throw Liger belts into the mix. I've been wearing them constantly for several years now... even had several dozen made up with the company logo at one time for retail sale. Very comfortable, almost indestructible and vertically VERY sturdy to support all kinds of gear.
http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=336 (http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=336)
-RJP
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I like that belt a lot. Anyone try the CompTac belts with kydex inside?
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BTW, I want to put in an additional plug for Forum member Andy L. at Andy's Leather. His Yaqui slides pretty much define the form...ad he'll do them for you in PINK!
Michael B
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and he'll do them for you in PINK!
Michael B
Wont ask; dont tell.
Yikes!