The Down Range Forum
Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: Walkeraviator on July 04, 2009, 03:29:54 PM
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Does anyone make a DA/SA 1911?? I love the 1911, but without getting into the debate as to who carries in what condition (ie condition 0, condition 1)...I want something i can just aim and squeeze without cocking a hammer that I WILL carry in teh down position...
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Para Ordinance makes the LDA.
http://www.para-lda.com/ldaCarryHiCap.html
I think there might be a couple of custom gunsmiths that do conversions also.....
(Cylinder & Slide does the Hi-Power, don't know about the 1911)
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Para's LDA has the nicest trigger. You won't miss the SA aspect at all.
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Any specifics on triggle pull? I hate most real DA onlys...glocks, XD, and the M&P are a little diferent as they are partially cocked. With the LDA, it wouyld be like the Smith 4046... and if the trigger pull is that heavy... i wont bother...
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Para's LDA are legal in Massachusetts so the trigger from the factory is at least 10 pounds.
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I don't have specific #'s. All the ones I've shot are nowhere close to 10lb's.
The best I can say is find one and try it yourself. It is smoother, lighter and crisper than glock, XD and M&P. (and I like my M&P a lot).
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I just don't think it's a 1911 if it's double action. To me a DA 1911 is....oxymoronic. What I would call it is some variation of a Browning High Power(BHP), like a Beretta 92....or many others.
Now if you want a striker fired DA/SA then consider the Walther P99AS. Only problem is price of both it and the magazines.
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Here is what I want... da/sa like a Beretta...but i love teh looks of the 1911...
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Here is what I want... da/sa like a Beretta...but i love teh looks of the 1911...
Then check out the Para LDA.
Alf stole my line of "Yes, it's called a Browning Hi Power " ;D Which actually might fit the bill for you, other than looks it is what JMB came up with when advances in tech led him to reevaluate the Semi Auto pistol plus it's 13 rounds instead of 7 or 8 and 9mm performs better than it used to, and is less expensive than .45.
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Para's LDA has the nicest trigger. You won't miss the SA aspect at all.
I wouldn't say that...
I've shot a bunch of LDAs, both stock and smithed. the stock leaves alot to be desired, but the smithed ones were not bad, just a very long pull.
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I wouldn't say that...
I've shot a bunch of LDAs, both stock and smithed. the stock leaves alot to be desired, but the smithed ones were not bad, just a very long pull.
Owning as many 1911's as you have said you do you are going to have that complaint about ANY DA trigger, I know because I'm the same way.
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its no where near as long as say a glock, its simlar to the single action pull of say a sig or a 3rd gen smith.
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This one looks a lot like a 1911 but it's 14+1 rounds with the LDA trigger.
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This one looks a lot like a 1911 but it's 14+1 rounds with the LDA trigger.
I know I am getting nit picky, but a skeletonized hammer and trigger are part of the "look" for me...
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What I like about the LDA system — I've competed with a P18 9mm and carry a Carry 9 LDA — is that it's not really like a DA-only trigger, say on a revolver or something like a Sig P250. The LDA trigger breaks much further forward in the stroke than on traditional DA triggers, whihc, at least to me, contributes to dat ole surprise break thingie we're always trying to achieve. I can run faster splits with my P18 LDA than I can with a 1911 9mm single action.
Drawback to the LDA system is that you need a week or so to transition from SA 1911 to LDA. The LDA system, typical to any DA trigger, obviously has a longer reset than the 1911 SA. The LDA reset also features 2 distinct "clicks"...the second click is the sear resetting. People who train to "ride" the SA trigger (or a DA trigger, for that matter) only back to sear reset before pulling the trigger again have more trouble with the LDA. While I generally ride the trigger of the various guns I shoot, I also spent a week with Bill Rogers at the Rogers Shooting School, where he will break you of riding the trigger (or just plain break you!), so it has never been a big deal to me.
Interestingly enough, the transition back from LDA to 1911 SA is pretty seamless...
Michael B
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I know I am getting nit picky, but a skeletonized hammer and trigger are part of the "look" for me...
A few LDAs have skelotonized hammers but most are bobbed off since you can't thumb cock it. And good luck finding a double-action with a skeletonized trigger. I don't think I've ever seen one.
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MB, I have shifted from the reset procedure to the total let off and readress the trigger, it works for an AK to an AR, to an LDA, let completely off, and then push or press the trigger straight back into the palm. Repeat. Quit trying to game it, once you get used to the press, in any mechanical trigger, you got it, now this will not work for 2oz, olympic trigger weights. But it will not do bad, the end game is, press the trigger without disturbing the sights.
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My Lda's trigger pulls are between 1 1/2lb to 4lbs. All 4 of them.