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Title: Quick Action Needed in California
Post by: MikeBjerum on July 05, 2009, 10:23:53 AM
http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?id=5011 (http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?id=5011)

This vote has been rescheduled for Tuesday, July 7th.  Act now to protect yourselves!

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California: Bill to Restrict Ammunition Sales Rescheduled for Next Week
 
Tuesday, June 30, 2009
 

Please Continue Contacting the Senate Public Safety Committee!

As we reported last week, Assembly Bill 962 was scheduled to be considered today by the Senate Public Safety Committee.  The bill has been rescheduled and will be considered on Tuesday, July 7.

Sponsored by Assembly Member Kevin De Leon (D-45), AB962 would make it a crime to privately transfer more than 50 rounds of ammunition per month, even between family and friends, unless you are registered as a “handgun ammunition vendor” in the Department of Justice’s database.  Ammunition retailers would have to be licensed and store ammunition in such a manner that it would be inaccessible to purchasers.  The bill would also require purchasers submit to fingerprinting, which would be kept in dealers' records and subject to inspection by the Department of Justice.  Lastly, mail order ammunition sales would be prohibited.

Please continue to contact the members of the Senate Public Safety Committee and respectfully urge them to oppose AB962.  Contact information can be found below.

SENATE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE:

State Senator Mark Leno (D-3) – Chair
(916) 651-4003
senator.leno@senate.ca.gov

State Senator John J. Benoit (R-37) - Vice-Chair
(916) 651-4037
State Senator Gilbert Cedillo (D-22)
(916) 651-4022

State Senator Loni Hancock (D-9)
(916) 651-4009

State Senator Robert Huff (R-29)
(916) 651-4029

State Senator Darrell Steinberg (D-6)
(916) 651-4006

State Senator Roderick Wright (D-25)
(916) 651-4025

   
 
Title: Re: Quick Action Needed in California
Post by: Steyr M40A1 on July 05, 2009, 02:36:54 PM
The state's name is misspelled. It starts with a K.
The more I read about this state the more I think it needs to go ahead and fall off into the ocean as predicted by geologists. 
Title: Re: Quick Action Needed in California
Post by: tfr270 on July 05, 2009, 04:10:06 PM
As far as I can tell...We're fucked. Each committee that have anti gun bills in them was first chaired by the author of the bill, and is now chaired by the author of the other bill...and the democrats have the republicans outnumbered at least 3-1 on each committee.
They have it set up that only district constituents can email the committee members. I've called and emailed my so called representives and senators, both local and federal, and I either don't get a response, get the "oh, it's one of you" response, or get the "common sense gun control" response.
I am already trying to talk my wife into returning to Arizona with me...or any other state that isn't as fucked up as this one. Other than that, I'll be running up the credit card balance on .38 and .357 ammo so I can stay ahead of the 50 round per month limit. And I'm always in the market for inexpensive bricks of .22. 
 
Title: Re: Quick Action Needed in California
Post by: tombogan03884 on July 05, 2009, 05:55:34 PM
  Now you know how German Jews felt in 1934. Be smart, get out while you can.
Title: Re: Quick Action Needed in California
Post by: TAB on July 05, 2009, 07:28:26 PM
it won't pass... infact I'd bet they won't even heard/voted one  as we are still working on a "budget".

heaven forbid the sign one on time for a change.
Title: Re: Quick Action Needed in California
Post by: tfr270 on July 05, 2009, 08:37:20 PM
Senator Leno's gun show bill is out of the Senate and on it's way to Assembly for hearing in the appropriations committee...headed up by DeLeon. Assemblyman DeLeon's ammunition bill is out of the Assembly and headed for Leno's Senate Public Safety Committee. I think the fix is in for both of these to go for a vote. It's my feeling that these will pass votes unless the Senators and Assembly members from the districts not around LA, San Diego, San Francisco, Marin and Sonoma Counties stand up and vote no. Hopefully Arnie will throw the BS card on these bills if they make it to him. As if we don't have much more important things to worry about like the non-existant budget. BTW...when they didn't reach a deal last week on the budget...it cost us 3 billion more dollars to the bottom line of the state deficet.   
Title: Re: Quick Action Needed in California
Post by: tombogan03884 on July 05, 2009, 08:52:50 PM
 Fight on the basis of the cost of enforcement. Play up the angle that a broke state can not afford more agents to enforce new laws.
That will even bring support from the commie areas.
Title: Re: Quick Action Needed in California
Post by: tfr270 on July 05, 2009, 09:47:53 PM
Yep...that's part of the strategy.
Title: Re: Quick Action Needed in California
Post by: tfr270 on July 08, 2009, 11:00:18 PM
Well, it passed the Senate Public Safety committee. And now it's on to the Senate Appropriations Commiittee. 13 members, 5 Republicans, and the chairman of the Public Safety committee, that just passed it, is on the Appropriations committee as well. Like I said earlier...We are fucked. They aren't listening to us. They are just going to do it anyway.

Bill to Restrict Ammunition Sales Takes a Step Forward
Please Contact the Senate Appropriations Committee!

Earlier today, the Senate Public Safety Committee passed Assembly Bill 962.  The bill now moves to the Senate Appropriations Committee for consideration.  No hearing date has been scheduled.

AB962, sponsored by Assembly Member Kevin De Leon (D-45), would make it a crime to privately transfer more than 50 rounds of ammunition per month, even between family and friends, unless you are registered as a “handgun ammunition vendor” in the Department of Justice’s database.  Ammunition retailers would have to be licensed and store ammunition in such a manner that it would be inaccessible to purchasers.  The bill would also require purchasers submit to fingerprinting, which would be kept in dealers' records and subject to inspection by the Department of Justice.  Lastly, mail order ammunition sales would be prohibited. 

Please contact the members of the Senate Appropriations Committee TODAY and respectfully urge them to oppose AB962.  Contact information can be found below.

SENATE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE:

State Senator Christine Kehoe (D-39), Chair
(916) 651-4039

State Senator Dave Cox (R-1), Vice-Chair
(916) 651-4001

State Senator Ellen Corbett (D-10)
(916) 651-4010

State Senator Jeff Denham (R-12)
(916) 651-4012

State Senator Mark DeSaulnier (D-7)
(916) 651-4007

State Senator Loni Hancock (D-9)
(916) 651-4009

State Senator Mark Leno (D-3)
(916) 651-4003
senator.leno@senate.ca.gov

State Senator Jenny Oropeza (D-28)
(916) 651-4028

State Senator George Runner (R-17)
(916) 651-4017

State Senator Mimi Walters (R-33)
(916) 651-4033

State Senator Lois Wolk (D-5)
(916) 651-4005

State Senator Mark Wyland (R-38)
(916) 651-4038

State Senator Leland Yee (D-8)
(916) 651-4008

Title: Re: Quick Action Needed in California
Post by: MAUSERMAN on July 08, 2009, 11:15:45 PM
Assholes >:(
Title: Re: Quick Action Needed in California
Post by: Pathfinder on July 09, 2009, 05:26:00 AM
Fight on the basis of the cost of enforcement. Play up the angle that a broke state can not afford more agents to enforce new laws.
That will even bring support from the commie areas.

Paying for enforcement can and will come later. All they want is the law on the books, they'll worry about the rest at another time. These people have very long memories and are willing to move very incrementally - tiny increments at times - because they know the laws will never go away.
Title: Re: Quick Action Needed in California
Post by: Rob10ring on July 09, 2009, 05:35:52 AM
The state's name is misspelled. It starts with a K.
The more I read about this state the more I think it needs to go ahead and fall off into the ocean as predicted by geologists. 
Actually geologists don't predict California falling into the ocean. That's not how these plates move. However, Los Angeles will someday be in the area that San Francisco is now and SF will be up around Seattle. Since often the insane laws that California passes become the trends nationally, I could see why everyone else might wish for this state's demise. I hope I'm out of here before any of that.

This will probably come down to Scwarzenegger's pen. We'll have to let him know that this is burden on the law abiding and not on the felons that it is supposedly written to stop. The hearing the other day featured a load of cops supporting it as well as the author of the bill, who didn't sound very intelligent. California needs people to spend money for tax revenue. Spending money on ammo helps the state, but if this is signed, I can't do pistol matches with 50 rounds a month.