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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: tt11758 on July 13, 2009, 09:41:17 AM
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http://www.peninsuladailynews.com/article/20090712/news/307129995 (http://www.peninsuladailynews.com/article/20090712/news/307129995)
Port Angeles woman allegedly pulls gun on Wal-Mart customers
By Tom Callis
Peninsula Daily News
PORT ANGELES -- A 37-year-old woman was arrested after the Clallam County Sheriff's Department said she threatened several people with a handgun in the Wal-Mart parking lot.
Clallam County Undersheriff Ron Peregrin said Teresa Nadine Dumdie of Port Angeles threatened four other customers with a .22 caliber handgun at 4:54 p.m. Friday outside the store at 3500 E. U.S. Highway 101.
No one was injured.
Peregrin said Dumdie had argued with customers in the store after they had asked her to stop cursing and yelling at an employee.
He said she was upset with the employee, saying she had sold her the wrong kind of ammunition.
After she received her refund, she walked out to the parking lot, removed a gun from her car and confronted the customers she had argued with earlier inside the store, Peregrin said.
"The long and the short of it is, she didn't like what was happening at the store . . . and as a result, pulled a weapon and threatened people with it out in the parking lot," he said.
Sheriff's deputies arrested Dumdie at 5:05 p.m. across the highway from Wal-Mart. She was booked into the Clallam County jail on investigation of first-degree assault.
Dumdie had left Wal-Mart in her car as the four deputies arrived.
"Our deputies got there before she was able to leave the scene," he said, "before she was able to threaten anyone else or cause any harm."
Peregrin said the Wal-Mart employees did the right thing by immediately notifying the Sheriff's Department.
"They did everything right in that regard," he said.
These are the asshats that give all of us a black eye, and provide ammunition for the anti's to renew and turn up the volume on their hue and cry for restraint of our 2nd Ammendment rights. Pity this woman's parents weren't more effective in their birth control methods lo those many years ago.
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This story would have read a lot differently if she had waved that thing in the face of someone with a permit........
"Armed Citizen stops crazed women with a gun at local Wal-Mart"
Nah, who am I kidding... The Lame Stream Media would have made this the headline:
"Argument turns into gun fight at Wal-Mart leaving one dead"
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Speaking of permits...did she own the gun legally or was she one of those people the gun laws protect us from?
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Speaking of permits...did she own the gun legally or was she one of those people the gun laws protect us from?
Good question, Jay.
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As I read this, the customers must have followed her out of the store. It sounds like she had reason to be fearful and had every right to draw on a hostile group of people.
I know it's outrageous to think the LSM would twist a story to portray legitimate self defense in a negative light, especially in a Constitution loving State like Ca.
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As I read this, the customers must have followed her out of the store. It sounds like she had reason to be fearful and had every right to draw on a hostile group of people.
I know it's outrageous to think the LSM would twist a story to portray legitimate self defense in a negative light, especially in a Constitution loving State like Ca.
You make a valid point, although I read it (as I'm sure the writer intended) as her confronting the people in the parking lot. I must remember:
Rule #1 - Never trust the Lamestream Media to be sympathetic, or even unbiased, toward Pro-2A issues.
Rule #2 - Never trust a post turtle. I have learned from the PTOTUS (Post Turtle Of The United States) that if his lips are moving he's most likely lying. ;D
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As I read this, the customers must have followed her out of the store. It sounds like she had reason to be fearful and had every right to draw on a hostile group of people.
I know it's outrageous to think the LSM would twist a story to portray legitimate self defense in a negative light, especially in a Constitution loving State like Ca.
I respectfully disagree (See, M'ette, we can be cordial).
She did not seem to have any justifiable reason to pull a gun.
This was a war of words, and it looks to me like the woman escalated things by bring the gun into play when there was no threat of death or serious bodily harm.
She was already at her car, and all she needed to do if she felt uncomfortable was simply drive away.
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I respectfully disagree (See, M'ette, we can be cordial).
She did not seem to have any justifiable reason to pull a gun.
This was a war of words, and it looks to me like the woman escalated things by bring the gun into play when there was no threat of death or serious bodily harm.
She was already at her car, and all she needed to do if she felt uncomfortable was simply drive away.
Here are the quotes that made my BS detector ping;
PORT ANGELES -- A 37-year-old woman was arrested after the Clallam County Sheriff's Department said she threatened several people with a handgun in the Wal-Mart parking lot.
Clallam County Undersheriff Ron Peregrin said Teresa Nadine Dumdie of Port Angeles threatened four other customers with a .22 caliber handgun at 4:54 p.m. Friday outside the store at 3500 E. U.S. Highway 101.
No one was injured.
Peregrin said Dumdie had argued with customers in the store after they had asked her to stop cursing and yelling at an employee.
He said she was upset with the employee, saying she had sold her the wrong kind of ammunition.
After she received her refund, she walked out to the parking lot, removed a gun from her car and confronted the customers she had argued with earlier inside the store, Peregrin said.
"The long and the short of it is, she didn't like what was happening at the store . . . and as a result, pulled a weapon and threatened people with it out in the parking lot," he said.
Sheriff's deputies arrested Dumdie at 5:05 p.m. across the highway from Wal-Mart. She was booked into the Clallam County jail on investigation of first-degree assault.
Dumdie had left Wal-Mart in her car as the four deputies arrived.
"Our deputies got there before she was able to leave the scene," he said, "before she was able to threaten anyone else or cause any harm."
Peregrin said the Wal-Mart employees did the right thing by immediately notifying the Sheriff's Department.
"They did everything right in that regard," he said.
If the dispute took place IN the store, BEFORE she got her refund, why were they still any where around her when she got back to her car ?
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Yes, Tom, but she could just have easily been the one to follow those people out into the parking lot...... Geez, I guess you have never been to a Wal-Mart before have you?!?!?!?
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Yes, Tom, but she could just have easily been the one to follow those people out into the parking lot...... Geez, I guess you have never been to a Wal-Mart before have you?!?!?!?
With size of the parking lots that argument sounds like a big stretch Eric.
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They way I read this is she should have got in her car and driven away instead of pulling the gun. What is it we learn in regards to self defense? Awareness, AVOIDANCE,....
She had the opportunity to avoid but chose to pull the gun instead. That is brandishing in this state and will lose her the right to possess that firearm as well as some time in the county jail and anger management courses.
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With size of the parking lots that argument sounds like a big stretch Eric.
Could be... I am still going to have to report you to the moderators for your abusive and demeaning tone..... I feel personally threatened by my interpretation of your use of free speech.
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Could be... I am still going to have to report you to the moderators for your abusive and demeaning tone..... I feel personally threatened by my interpretation of your use of free speech.
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Careful, you can get a hernia that way. ;D
They way I read this is she should have got in her car and driven away instead of pulling the gun. What is it we learn in regards to self defense? Awareness, AVOIDANCE,....
She had the opportunity to avoid but chose to pull the gun instead. That is brandishing in this state and will lose her the right to possess that firearm as well as some time in the county jail and anger management courses.
Either way we all agree that the MSM is not the most reliable source.
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This just ain't right.
The Antis got ammo at Wal Mart!!!!!!
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Yep, MSM is on their own agenda. They decide and then report. Not report and we decide.
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You know she doesn't have a permit to carry if she is waiving the gun around. ( no training or sense)
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You know she doesn't have a permit to carry if she is waiving the gun around. ( no training or sense)
Bingo JB ;D
Ding, ding, ding................We have a winner!!!
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This just ain't right.
The Antis got ammo at Wal Mart!!!!!!
Now you know who those damned "hoarders" are !
Wonder if she talks on her Cell phone while driving ?
(my weekly near miss this morning >:( )