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Member Section => Tactical Rifle & Carbine => Topic started by: ericire12 on July 15, 2009, 09:28:17 AM
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http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/15/new-bullpup-sks-stock-from-sg-works/
(http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/bullpup3-tm.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTVV59EvK24
Cost: $159.95
Ships in September
* Provides ample space for non-firing hand to support rifle
* Provides stable sight housing which securely fastens to main housing of stock for effective use of scopes/reflex sights
* Provides easily manipulated flip-top cover to provide protection from fired cases being ejected as well as easy access to loading lug on bolt carrier when using stripper clips
* Forward bullpup trigger virtually duplicates trigger pull distance and weight of original trigger
* Easily accessed “safety bar” which utilizes existing SKS safety design
* Compatible with AK and Tapco 20 round detachable magazines
* No modification to your rifle is required for installation
http://sgworks.com/
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Too bad I never picked up an SKS!
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Interesting option. Good find!
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I know I miss my old chinese SKS. Been trying to buy it back but the guy won't accept any offers. Sold it for $175 but I only paid $99 for it and another $35 for a synthetic stock. I miss that SKS more than I miss the Bushmaster AR-15 I owned at the time.
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I was going to sell my Yugo SKS at a gun show today, but I think I'll hang on to it now.
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Best thing about an SKS over any other Semi auto I can think of is no mags or clips needed. (clipped ammo is quicker to reload but you don't NEED to use them )
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Dang it E!!! Now I neeeeed one. ;D
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I prefer this :
http://www.tjgeneralstore.com/advanced_technology_rifle_stocks.htm
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I don't like guns that are DESIGNED to be bullpups, why would I want to blow money making a decent carbine into one?
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I don't like guns that are DESIGNED to be bullpups, why would I want to blow money making a decent carbine into one?
You wouldn't, but not everyone thinks like you do.
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Warhawke, pragmatism is a good thing if taken in moderation. Bullpups are meant for one very good thing, all the performance in a shorter package, iff, it works!!! I might get one of these.
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You wouldn't, but not everyone thinks like you do.
Warhawk, I just reread that and want to say that it sounds much snottier than I intended. There are those (I'm not one of them, I don't care for bullpups either ) who think that if it works for the Steyr Aug, and the Enfield SA80 it must be the latest and greatest and I've got to have 2.
Warhawke, pragmatism is a good thing if taken in moderation. Bullpups are meant for one very good thing, all the performance in a shorter package, iff, it works!!! I might get one of these.
Looks like reloads will be a royal PITA
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Tom, I didn't take your comment badly, it was the truth. I should not have been so abrupt myself but I was tired and did not consider my words sufficiently.
I have tried the AUG, the Bushmasters (M-17S and the"Arm Pistol") , the CIA AK conversion and the FAMAS (in passing) and a few others, so I have some understanding of this type of weapon. The only, the single advantage of the bullpup is it's short overall length versus the barrel length. If I were in a position where the LENGTH of my rifle was utterly critical and I wanted a full power rifle as opposed to a submachinegun or other very compact firearm I would use a bullpup, but frankly, unless I am being transported in a car trunk (and a sub-compact car at that) I don't see where it would be an issue. It might be convenient under certain circumstances, like fighting from inside a car or some such, but it would hardly be critical.
The downsides of the design are numerous;
Increased complication of the weapon, primarily due to the long trigger system (up to 12")
Poor balance, you put the bulk of the weapons weight BEHIND your hands, not between them.
Poor mag replacement ergos, you change mags under your face.
Excessive height, try getting in a low prone with an AUG.
Reduced ambidextrous usage, mostly you either have to take the weapon apart or do Yoga moves to fire left-handed.
Unsuitable for hand to hand combat, unless you play cricket it's not even a good bat.
I could go on but the point is that current bullpups are poorly designed for combat, mostly because they are conventional weapons altered to put the action in the butt-stock rather than being designed from the ground up as proprietary designs. I am sure I could probably design a bullpup that would be far better than anything I have seen thus far, but many of the problems would remain and such a weapon would likely require radical departures from conventional designs (like the G-11 or worse) so you have all new problems making it a reliable battlefield weapon.
All of which would go to doing one thing, making a short weapon with a long barrel which, IM (not so) HO, has little purpose in the first place except under very special circumstances.
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I don't like guns that are DESIGNED to be bullpups, why would I want to blow money making a decent carbine into one?
All depends on how many "decent carbines" you have ;)
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I think it's a waste of a perfectly good SKS. I will keep my ATI folding stocks, thanks. And it does look like reloads would be a pain. I don't dislike Bullpups in general, but I wouldn't want this one.
Side note, My SKS's are two of my favorite rifles. Very first gun I ever bought was a Norinco SKS. Still have it. Have the folding stock on it now. Bought it as a deer rifle when I was 16 for $120 for the rifle and 20 stripper clips filled with 200 rounds of Wolf FMJ. Wish I had bought 2 more and waited a few years to sell them.
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ugh. that things uglier than a war wound
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I think it's a waste of a perfectly good SKS. I will keep my ATI folding stocks, thanks. And it does look like reloads would be a pain. I don't dislike Bullpups in general, but I wouldn't want this one.
Side note, My SKS's are two of my favorite rifles. Very first gun I ever bought was a Norinco SKS. Still have it. Have the folding stock on it now. Bought it as a deer rifle when I was 16 for $120 for the rifle and 20 stripper clips filled with 200 rounds of Wolf FMJ. Wish I had bought 2 more and waited a few years to sell them.
This from a guy who LIKES the Stoeger Tacticool Coach gun.
Walt, I'm just busting your chops, I agree on this one ;D
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This from a guy who LIKES the Stoeger Tacticool Coach gun.
Walt, I'm just busting your chops, I agree on this one ;D
Well, That's what forums are for right! And I STILL Like that coach gun :P ;D
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ugh. that things uglier than a war wound
Bullseye....
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Check out the web site. There is a new version that comes with a lower sight rail and picitinny rails.
http://sgworks.com/
It's the 2nd video.
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Looks like you lose the folding pig sticker as well. Actually, it would be funny if it stayed. You've got a shorter spear.